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[TheYanger]

Agreed, the game looks and runs like trash. Bring back D1's atmosphere instead feeling like a wowcraft mod.

Oh get the fuck over this shit already people. Diablo 1 was nowhere near as 'dark' as people must remember it, google some screenshots. The skills and abilities are bright and colorful, even the environments are pretty damn colorful, the only parts that are dark are when you've got really bad light radius (or even negative) and the feeling that you move slow as hell making it claustrophobic.

That's the Diablo 1 I remember.

 

[Possumowner]

Im still knee deep in this game.Would love a new expansion.

 

[Moff]

I love diablo 3, but it's hard to deny that diablo 1 was a lot darker. not just because of the art style, but it had tons of butchered, impaled bodies, baby screams etc.
and the art style is a lot different, it's obvious blizzard changed both diablo and starcraft to have a more comic look, like world of warcraft. I don't mind it, I like it.

I also think that diablo 3, especially with reaper of souls, has by far the best gameplay of the franchise, so bring on that new expansion. but I think they will focus on WoW and overwatch first.

 

[Perun]

Oh get the fuck over this shit already people. Diablo 1 was nowhere near as 'dark' as people must remember it, google some screenshots. The skills and abilities are bright and colorful, even the environments are pretty damn colorful, the only parts that are dark are when you've got really bad light radius (or even negative) and the feeling that you move slow as hell making it claustrophobic.

That's the Diablo 1 I remember.

smh

Yup, very bright and colorful indeed.

Here's a D3 screenshot I took:

It looks overdesigned and flashy to the point that I can't even see my character - that rarely ever happened in previous games. Not to mention the cartoony enemy designes, yuck.

 

[Triscuitable]

I love diablo 3, but it's hard to deny that diablo 1 was a lot darker. not just because of the art style, but it had tons of butchered, impaled bodies, baby screams etc.
and the art style is a lot different, it's obvious blizzard changed both diablo and starcraft to have a more comic look, like world of warcraft. I don't mind it, I like it.

I also think that diablo 3, especially with reaper of souls, has by far the best gameplay of the franchise, so bring on that new expansion. but I think they will focus on WoW and overwatch first.

Diablo 3 definitely still has lots of needless mutilation and gore strewn about, just the way I like it.

As for gameplay, while the game does tend to favor specific builds too heavily, I do enjoy it a lot more than I did previous games in the series. The sound design and visual "punch" makes combat extremely satisfying.

 

[Lanrutcon]

I am so tired of rifts. So so tired.

 

[TheYanger]

I love diablo 3, but it's hard to deny that diablo 1 was a lot darker. not just because of the art style, but it had tons of butchered, impaled bodies, baby screams etc.
and the art style is a lot different, it's obvious blizzard changed both diablo and starcraft to have a more comic look, like world of warcraft. I don't mind it, I like it.

I also think that diablo 3, especially with reaper of souls, has by far the best gameplay of the franchise, so bring on that new expansion. but I think they will focus on WoW and overwatch first.

That's just it though, D3 has all that shit too, people just like to ignore it.

Like, go load the game up, there are literally blood smears and piles of corpses damn near EVERYWHERE in D3.
Half of the shit you click on to see if you get an item to pop out are dead bodies.

smh

Yup, very bright and colorful indeed.

Here's a D3 screenshot I took:

It looks overdesigned and flashy to the point that I can't even see my character - that rarely ever happened in previous games. Not to mention the cartoony enemy designes, yuck.

All of your Diablo 1 screenshots are just as bright as the one I posted, except for the first one where it's literally a rogue standing in a room not doing anything (IE: no mobs, no attacks, nothing happening).

You can just as easily take screenshots of Diablo 3 that look like that. That was my point. Yeah, you can wait for 20 arcane beams and a poison enchanted mob to be rolling around and get purple and green everywhere, but most of the time it's just hordes of pretty dark mobs crowding you in pretty dark corridors, same as Diablo has always been.

If your complaint is that you can actually see the abilities monsters use against you and that that is 'overdesigned'....dunno what to tell you, mobs don't have flashy attacks in D1 because the gameplay in D1 is fucking pathetic in comparison, mobs might as well not have any moves, oh wait, they basically don't, what am I saying? Yes, I prefer an arcane beam be purple to being invisible, if you played your version of the game where it was brown on grey on black you'd probably hate it.

 

[Nokterian]

Diablo 3 definitely still has lots of needless mutilation and gore strewn about, just the way I like it.

As for gameplay, while the game does tend to favor specific builds too heavily, I do enjoy it a lot more than I did previous games in the series. The sound design and visual "punch" makes combat extremely satisfying.

No other games give me that gives me that visual design and punch like you said. Seeing hundreds of not even more monsters explode in a few seconds of each other is so damn good.

Watch out mobile users a heavy gif here!

 

[Lancelot]

Nah, give me a proper new Diablo game!

 

[Outrun]

AH ruined the game plane and simple. I knew it and a lot more knew it and it came finally through at blizzard i knew it before even diablo 3 was launched when they announced it. And since you never played it when RoS launched you do not know how much the game has improved since.

AH was so bad, I quit playing the game altogether after beating the game with Barbarian.

 

[Skellig Gra]

I would be all for it but Blizzard doesn't typically do multiple expansions for non-WoW games.

 

[ZenaxPure]

D3 doesn't need an expansion, we need a D4 instead. Not because of any inherent problems with D3 (I have close to 2000 hours of D3 played, it's one of my all time favorite games) but the game suffers for long-term play by not be a service game like a MMO or F2P game. People like to complain about how slow blizz is at patching the game but most people seem to forget that this is a game with literally 0 micro-transactions, not even cosmetic ones. The amount of support they give it is frankly insane when you consider they are not making any money off the game outside of the one time purchase. We've gotten 3 really great patches for no cost whatsoever.

I'd rather they just continue giving D3 the support it has now (new season and a handful of new items every few months) and make something in the vein of PoE or Marvel Heroes. I would love a game that plays like D3 (as combat-wise it's absolutely in my top 5 of action RPGs) but with the support of one of those games.

 

[GOOCHY]

AH didn't ruin the game - Blizzard's balancing around the AH ruined the game. It's possible to have the benefits of Smart Loot and a vibrant economy at the same time, but Blizzard can be very all or nothing at times.

AH did ruin the game.

In a game where the *entire point* is to keep adventuring and replaying to find bigger and better loot it is completely counter to the goals of the game to be able to buy new gear via the auction house.

 

[AntiFacebook]

Nah, give me a proper new Diablo game!

this will take at least another decade

 

[Perun]

That's just it though, D3 has all that shit too, people just like to ignore it.

Like, go load the game up, there are literally blood smears and piles of corpses damn near EVERYWHERE in D3.
Half of the shit you click on to see if you get an item to pop out are dead bodies

Sigh. It's not that people ignore it, it simply doesn't look like Diablo, it has none of that gothic, grotesque feel to it, a vastly different art design - it sure would look a lot different if the Blizzard North guys would take care of the game.

Warcraft has had its share of cartoony macabre as well and Diablo 3 looks just like that.

You might as well put a few mutilated bodies in Torchlight 2 and it would just like that. The cartoony animations and design don't help either. Even the Halls of Agony left me completely undisturbed and indifferent - Diablo 3 looks like a generic modern Blizzard game. A quote from Bill Roper (ex-Blizzard North) - "But it makes complete sense to me where they went because they basically took the Diablo universe and then approached it from the Blizzard Ivine stance for the visuals."

All of your Diablo 1 screenshots are just as bright as the one I posted, except for the first one where it's literally a rogue standing in a room not doing anything (IE: no mobs, no attacks, nothing happening).

That is - not very bright at all. The color palette in this game was rather monochromatic.

You can just as easily take screenshots of Diablo 3 that look like that. That was my point.

Except you can't, that's my point.

Please, let's stop pretending Diablo 3 looks just like previous games in the series. It sure ticks a few checkboxes, but the aesthetic design (both the visuals and the music) is not Diablo at all. That is what bothers many fans of the series, that is what they're trying to convey and that is why people say theyt would like to see a proper Diablo game (which will never happen, sadly).

 

[Tovarisc]

My wishlist, in this order;

1. Engine that actually works properly with modern HW
2. Diablo 3 expansion 2

 

[ToyMachine228]

I bought it on PC and was originally in the underwhelmed camp. Bought Ultimate Evil on Xbox One and loved it. I'd love another expansion. I fear we won't see it announced at BlizzCon this year.

 

[ZenaxPure]

AH did ruin the game.

In a game where the *entire point* is to keep adventuring and replaying to find bigger and better loot it is completely counter to the goals of the game to be able to buy new gear via the auction house.

This is exactly why vanilla D3 players can't take people who shit on the AH seriously.

What exactly do you think people were doing with the gear they bought on the AH? They used it to farm harder difficulties for more gear. The exact thing you claim to be the point of the entire game (which is entirely wrong btw but that would be an unrelated tangent) is what the AH provided. It gave a way for people to endlessly grind items forever with a very real reward attached (real money).

It's a shame really because instead of spouting nonsense you could have been in there like the rest of us endlessly farming items and getting sweet cash for it. I made hundreds of dollars by the end of D3 because I "kept adventuring and replaying to find bigger and better loot."

 

[III-V]

Yes, I love this game and want more.

 

[Espada]

I'd LOVE another Diablo 3 expansion, but as others have said at this point it's more likely we'll get D4 some time in the future. I've sunk countless hours into this game and had a blast with it.

 

[xRaizen]

Regardless of what Blizzard claims about the relationship between loot tables and the AH in vanilla D3, the loot system and the gear it generated was awful compared to the older Diablo games. And it dropped way less often. Their method of managing the AH seemed to be to cut out any slightly interesting gear and have a linear DPS upgrade curve with rare drops.

I'm glad you made money on it but for the casual player it meant spending money on a budget build to even get started with efficient grinding, just after buying the game.

It was a perfect storm of shit. If they would have built the game first, adjusted loot to be fun like it mostly is now, and had content that was actually decently fun to grind repeatedly like now, maybe it would have worked. Instead they insisted on a real money economy and built a game that showed the strings of that economy a bit too openly.

Of course most people weren't gonna like that after D2's loot and pace.

Yeah this is what turned me off from D3 when I picked it up a month or two after launch, got to level 60 by buying just the absolutely necessary upgrades (things I didn't upgrade for 5+ levels) and realized that for me to progress through Inferno I had to farm gold to buy appropriate gear to even begin farming for better gear.. Basically just stopped playing then and there until RoS came out and played that for months being happy with it.

 

[The1Ski]

I quit when the AH was deleted and RoS came out. I guess I am in the minority but "budget builds" and AH were fun parts of the game to me. I love trading/economy like that.

I agree that messing with the auction house was pretty entertaining, in its own way, but it ruined the drop rates during gameplay. I think I might have only had 1 or 2 legendary drops in 15+ hours of play.

I had fun with the AH but it had to go.

 

[Dr_Boris_Goltz]

I've put so many hours into Diablo 3... I believe close to 1000 at this point.

I couldn't agree more that it's time for an expansion. The seasons are great but they only stay appealing for a relatively short amount of time.

 

[Ogawa-san]

They're not keeping it updated out of kindness. No doubt there's another expansion or two incoming.

 

[Raxus]

I've put so many hours into Diablo 3... I believe close to 1000 at this point.

I couldn't agree more that it's time for an expansion. The seasons are great but they only stay appealing for a relatively short amount of time.

Yep. I love playing seasons and (most) of the new additions but there really needs to be another act or 2 to keep things fresh.

 

[Tenebrous]

AH did ruin the game.

In a game where the *entire point* is to keep adventuring and replaying to find bigger and better loot it is completely counter to the goals of the game to be able to buy new gear via the auction house.

Blizzard's implementation ruined the game. As I've said many times, there's definitely a middleground that will satisfy everyone without leaving anyone out. Dropping features entirely and then going "all-in motherfuckers!" on others is just a bit OTT for me.

 

[Renekton]

It was a perfect storm of shit. If they would have built the game first, adjusted loot to be fun like it mostly is now, and had content that was actually decently fun to grind repeatedly like now, maybe it would have worked.

Moreso, AH earnings could fund more free content updates. Now we're sitting here wondering if they will consider an expansion pack.

AH did ruin the game.

In a game where the *entire point* is to keep adventuring and replaying to find bigger and better loot it is completely counter to the goals of the game to be able to buy new gear via the auction house.

Offsite trading would have ruined D2 already.

 

[ViolentP]

All I want is the original Diablo in the new engine. Same music, same Tristram. God I would kill for that.

 

[ZenaxPure]

Regardless of what Blizzard claims about the relationship between loot tables and the AH in vanilla D3, the loot system and the gear it generated was awful compared to the older Diablo games.

You're only half right. The drop rates of items was not the problem with D3, the problem was the item design.

This is the really hilarious part of it all to me. As someone who was farming the high end of D3 (inferno at first but eventually MP10) I got vastly more legendaries farming MP10 vanilla D3 than I did farming T6 at the start of Reaper of Souls. The conspiracy around drop rates has always been a complete laugh because people saying that crap were clearly not actually playing the game.

Also for the record I never spent a single real life dollar on the D3 auction house. Anyone talking about being forced to buy items to farm items is full of shit. You could easily just start small and build your way up on the gold AH. You just had to buy smart. And no I didn't flip items either. I played the game like a normal human being and then bought upgrades with gold. The exact thing people shitting on the AH said was impossible. Reality is plenty of us did it.

 

[Lanrutcon]

You know what would be cool? if weapons stopped being stat sticks and actually behaved differently. I think that in itself was a lazy, lazy decision.

 

[New002]

I wasn't there for the initial launch of D3. I started up a few months later after I had a new computer that could run it. There were pros and cons to the auction house, but I do wish blizzard would have tried harder to make it work instead of just killing it off. Did they try at all?

At the same time the AH was so universally hated that I can understand why they chose to go the route that they did. I'm willing to bet very few oeople miss it. For what it's worth I enjoyed utilizing the AH

 

[Firemind]

Hopefully 2 more playable characters!

Three. One for each stat.

Str: Druid
Dex: Amazon
Int: Necromancer

But yeah, D4 would be ace.

 

[Windforce]

Unfortunately I'd prefer a new game altogether, I didn't really like Diablo 3 even after Reaper of Souls...

I want either Diablo 4, or a Diablo 1 + 2 HD Remaster.

Edit: unless, as poster above me said, D3 expansion brought back Necros and Amazons. I'd play that.

 

[GECK]

All I want is the original Diablo in the new engine. Same music, same Tristram. God I would kill for that.

Still the GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnMR6SOBa9k

creeping doom, yes please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cH8ZwL3A7Q

 

[IvorB]

Well for me this is the game that just keeps on giving so I certainly wouldn't say no.

 

[diablogod]

Screw the auction house I just really really miss the Diablo 2 type trading aspect =(

Reaper of Souls was good and it managed to pull me back again when it launched on consoles but it's not a game I can sink a ton of time in anymore.

I hope a new expansion comes out for the game though, but Warcraft 4 should be a much higher priority for Blizzard!

 

[LCGeek]

Also for the record I never spent a single real life dollar on the D3 auction house. Anyone talking about being forced to buy items to farm items is full of shit. You could easily just start small and build your way up on the gold AH. You just had to buy smart. And no I didn't flip items either. I played the game like a normal human being and then bought upgrades with gold. The exact thing people shitting on the AH said was impossible. Reality is plenty of us did it.

So what my clan was full of people who did feel that regardless. I was quite mixed on AH, though it should've been separated out. Some were lucky to get good gear whiles others didn't until we got the decent loot 2.0 upgrades.

I cheesed ah for the record and earned some money. I saw the writing on the wall when i saw the net complaints and eventually blizzard couldn't ignore it.

Regardless of this blizzard made it clear that it was impacting items and how people could get them which was a huge mistake on their part not on consumers who liked AH.

Edit: unless, as poster above me said, D3 expansion brought back Necros and Amazons. I'd play that.

From what is being heavily rumored we are getting an expansion and amazon has been getting talked about a lot vs a new necro which hasn't been seriously mentioned or teased in comparison to the other class.

 

[GOOCHY]

This is exactly why vanilla D3 players can't take people who shit on the AH seriously.

What exactly do you think people were doing with the gear they bought on the AH? They used it to farm harder difficulties for more gear. The exact thing you claim to be the point of the entire game (which is entirely wrong btw but that would be an unrelated tangent) is what the AH provided. It gave a way for people to endlessly grind items forever with a very real reward attached (real money).

It's a shame really because instead of spouting nonsense you could have been in there like the rest of us endlessly farming items and getting sweet cash for it. I made hundreds of dollars by the end of D3 because I "kept adventuring and replaying to find bigger and better loot."

Not everybody is going to or want to grind hundreds of hours for a few hundred bucks. I don't play Diablo to make money. I play Diablo to have fun. Also, Diablo is a game in which loot is the end goal. Why do you think they call it a gear treadmill? Are you really hanging on every word of the dialogue and getting real involved in the story?

 

[BlitzerRadic]

I agree that messing with the auction house was pretty entertaining, in its own way, but it ruined the drop rates during gameplay. I think I might have only had 1 or 2 legendary drops in 15+ hours of play.

I had fun with the AH but it had to go.

As opposed to now where legendaries drop like rares and ancients you get 1 or 2 every 10 hrs.

Its reached the point that so many legendaries drop that many players would rather quit a rift they cant finish in time rather than finish it through and collect the guaranteed legendaries that drop when you finish.

 

[Brazil]

It's coming.

 

[bishopcruz]

He's never coming but:

PLEASE???

 

[RDreamer]

I'd love a new expansion.

Personally I loved both versions of the Diablo 3 for different reasons. I probably lean a bit towards having an AH than not, though. I really liked that it meant you were always progressing in some way. If you came back from a bunch of runs with nothing for your job class or spec, you could sell that and it would at least get you some of the way towards where you wanted to go. Without the AH you could be stuck on a bad luck treadmill. The AH actually helped make D3 infinitely more fun than I had in Diablo 2. I literally never got any of the good shit, but with D3 I could work my way up there in different ways.

Also the crazy difficulty when it was first released was really fun in a different way, too.

But I also loved the adventure mode stuff they put into RoS, so it evens out a bit.

I'll buy whatever they release next day 1.

 

[Skab]

As opposed to now where legendaries drop like rares and ancients you get 1 or 2 every 10 hrs.

Its reached the point that so many legendaries drop that many players would rather quit a rift they cant finish in time rather than finish it through and collect the guaranteed legendaries that drop when you finish.

This has nothing to do with the legendaries. This is about reaching higher grift levels and being efficient in your attempts

 

[dsp]

Everyone is in here talking about the graphics, the colors, the auction house, etc. I don't want to say those aren't valid points. They are, without doubt, absolutely valid, but, in my mind, the biggest problem with Diablo 3 will forever be the writing. Do not forget Maghda. I have never bought the expansion for Diablo 3 because, despite all of the talk about it making the game better, it can't undo Maghda. It can't undo Hakan. Another expansion is not what this game needs. Blizzard needs to get a different team together to make a new Diablo. If not, they should put the series to rest.

 

[fastford58]

D3 is a much better game today then at release. I play it more than anything at the moment.

I love the free patches adding content, but I would love to see another big Chapter expansion with a new playable class.

 

[beatdowniidx]

im also in the would like another expansion camp but seems chances are slim. Just look at blizzcon this year just 1 Diablo 3 panel

 

[Wagram]

I would like a Diablo 4 that returns to the roots of the first game. Diablo 3 (despite me Platinuming it) was boring as all fuck to slog through.

 

[IvorB]

Everyone is in here talking about the graphics, the colors, the auction house, etc. I don't want to say those aren't valid points. They are, without doubt, absolutely valid, but, in my mind, the biggest problem with Diablo 3 will forever be the writing. Do not forget Maghda. I have never bought the expansion for Diablo 3 because, despite all of the talk about it making the game better, it can't undo Maghda. It can't undo Hakan. Another expansion is not what this game needs. Blizzard needs to get a different team together to make a new Diablo. If not, they should put the series to rest.

What did Maghda do to you?

 

[Csr]

ah the same arguments that have been discussed to death on the blizzard and various forums around the net.

There is no AH ruined or not the game issue. Some people enjoy the AH some people dont, it is as simple as that. Though considering the huge backlash on the internet, the apology letters from blizzard, the original developer saying he didn't agree with the decisions and eventually the removal of the ah and the increase of leg drop rates , changes which also led the game having a lot more positive buzz around the net(just my impression), i would say that the ah and how blizzard tried to balance around it was a big failure.

I hated the AH, never used it and i also never liked the game pro ros because i enjoyed d2 for the legendaries and i got legs so rarely in inferno 1 and 2 and they sucked so bad that i wasn't enjoying the game at all. I remember the first 150 hours of the game when it launched, i had 2 legs that were completely useless. Some people don't want to have legendaries drop often and so they liked the system before but i don't, it is all preference.

The graphics are ok but the game is obviously less dark and gothic in it's artstyle than previous games which is not a big deal but i prefered the previous game's look.
Story was extremely bad this time, it wasn't some masterpiece before but it didn't make me want to mute the sound so i don't hear the various stupid lines (omg diablo was so annoying).

I would like a diablo 4 also btw, d3 ros is nice but i got bored of it.

 

[Kacho]

With the next WoW expansion already announced I expect the next Fiablo expansion to be announced at Blizzcon in a few weeks. I imagine it'll be a fairly content rich expansion too considering that the game is finally unfucked.