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Weekly UK chart (GTA:LCS #2, RE4 #7)

marc^o^ said:
Considering its price, the PSP is selling well.
Considering its Playstation brand, the PSP is underperforming.
Considering its shortage in UK, the PSP is selling well.
Considering its rival sales, the PSP is underperforming.

Could we agree both consoles are doing great, that Nintendo fans were right to feel offended by undeserved mockery in the early months, and that now both consoles have gained respect we should all be happy with what we have?

Do you not also agree that Nfans 'revenge trolling' is getting a bit out of hand? I guess it's true that sales only matter when your favorite system is ahead. Where were Nfans with the PS2 vs GC UK, US, Japan sales charts?
 
My store is a huge department store with 16 superstores located all around UK, none of our stores have PSP available to sell, at launch my department recieved at least 200 PSP which soldout within a few days. After a few weeks we managed to get in another 50, that was a month and a half ago and since then Sony only sent us 2 or 3 every week. Its pathetic, i have to constantly demonstrate the PSP to all our customers even when i explicitly warn them we have none in stock. Clearly there is huge demand for the machine, i would have thought Sony would be better prepared for Xmas shopping season.

Frustrating to say the least, just send those US or JP PSPs to satisfy european demand.
 
DS Launch in Japan -> PSP Launch in Japan -> PSP outselling DS -> Nintendogs -> DS outselling PSP -> Highly anticipated PSP title released, yet PSP doesn't outsell DS at that time.

DS Launch in Europe -> PSP Launch in Europe -> PSP outselling DS -> Nintendogs -> DS outselling PSP -> Highly anticipated PSP title released, yet PSP doesn't outsell DS at that time.

OMG seeing a pattern. Can't wait for october NPD. This is shaping up to be the most unpredictable console war yet.

Very interesing about the shortage reports. I wonder where the 10 million have been shipped to. I suppose it won't be long until there is enough PSP stock given this number right in time for the real holiday shopping period. Maybe Sony wants to win that time with a bang or something.
 
Razoric said:
Do you not also agree that Nfans 'revenge trolling' is getting a bit out of hand?
It's more like 'defense trolling'. Nintendo is still under attack, so the Nfans reactions. Actually, I've never seen a company that much hated in the entertainment industry, but well, that must be me.
 
Didn't Sony release shipment numbers for Uk and US a while ago, or was it worldwide numbers? I didn't pay attention.
 
DarienA said:
So I'm assuming that PSTwo prices were higher on eBay when it came out and had it's shortage? First the Wal Mart rules... and now the eBay factor... I just can't keep up....
umm.. not a shortage but definitely limited supply.. and I said ebay is an EXAGGERATION (please maintain context) of what is actually going on, but a representation nonetheless... If people are not paying a premium for something on ebay, a place KNOWN for people paying ridiculous prices for things for no reason, there is a reason for it.. either people don't want it or if they do want it aren't having a hard enough time finding it to resort to paying insane prices on ebay... because if people really did want to have it right now and there was no supply, ebay prices would be through the roof.

to put it into comparison, I have NEVER seen something that is difficult or impossible to get go for a reasonable price on ebay.. the UK PSP would magically be the first thing to ever to fit that bill, if indeed there is a shortage and high demand.
 
PSP needs more good games.
GTA isn't enough to sell a system there are people who dont care about GTA.
Nintendogs on the other hand:
Nfans > OMFG Miyamoto game! MARIO HAT MUST BUY!!
Parents> WTF Cheap DS!! with game
Non-gamers > The new dog game!!
Mario kart is also a major Nintendo franchise in the west.

Nintendo defended there handheld line for a long time.
Sony took some market share but they also expanded the market.
When DS slows down Nintendo will release a more powerfull Gameboy system:
The PSP crowd wich bought the PSP because of the more powerfull hardware will also get this new Gameboy , Revolution(will hopefully) make Nintendo look less kiddy. Not to mention the huge line up of the DS.
Nintendo's cash reserve grows again.

Sony should have never entered the Handheld gaming market they are facing Nintendo and Apple. And both Nintendo and apple are ready for the fight.
 
as possibly the most disenfranchised psp owner on the board, even I am distancing myself from that post.
 
PSP is going to be THE must have item this christmas. Retailers are expecting to easily outsell every other console. Sony did a good job at launch but demand has been greater than anyone imagined. Its amazing how PSP is selling with so many stores out of stock. :)
 
Deg said:
PSP is going to be THE must have item this christmas. Retailers are expecting to easily outsell every other console. Sony did a good job at launch but demand has been greater than anyone imagined. Its amazing how PSP is selling with so many stores out of stock. :)


hahhah with what game. this christmas is all about mario kart and animal crossing bundle packs baby for the handhelds.
 
Deg said:
Lets see how December figures turn out. :) The naysayers were more than proved wrong at launch.

Well..., there weren't that many people that thought PSP would bomb at launch. But there were... let's say quite a few that proclaimed PSP's nearing victory in Japan ('DS will never outsell PSP on a weekly basis from now on'), the USA ('DS is TEEH doomed, americans don't like the new concept') and Europe ('Europe is Sonycountry, PSP will be the No.1 next gen handheld plattform by the end of the year).
I really don't see a reason why PSP should be the no.1 plattform this christmas without that much software.
 
It's delayed in Germany at least. But I don't see any shortage here, I can walk into any store and there are PSPs in stock.
 
It's delayed here in Scandinavia but I've yet to come across a store, both online and regular ones, that are sold out.
 
This weeks' sales -

DS = 35,000 units
Game Boy (including SP and Micro) 25,000 units
PSP = 16,000 units

Surprised by the lack of performance on Resi 4 on PS2, thought that would be top three.

1 in 5 PSP owners in the UK bought GTA in the first couple of days of launch - not that bad a performance for them.

:lol I freaking knew that would happen. This thread is comedy gold.
 
my predictions for october and november US npds..

october it will be: "GTA was only out for 5 days during the month. those are pretty good sales for just 5 days"

november it will be: "there were reports of a psp shortage for most of november, especially around black friday when it would have sold the most. people couldn't get a psp on the busiest days"

december likely will be: "when they couldn't get a psp in november they just replaced it with something else and never went back for the sale in december"

I mean don't get me wrong. us... err.. those Nintendo zealots are the same way.. just funny to see the PSP damage control for a little while now after seeing the nintendo damage control for like the last 8 months...
 
How can there still be significant shortages? As of October 21st, Sony shipped over 2.5 million units to Europe.
 
I have a question...

Are the UK charts organized by UNITS SOLD or EURO/POUND revenue?

If tis by units, then the Dog bundles for the win.

If its by $, then that explains why GTA is so high up (at $40) while the GBA/DS games are lower (at 30$)



Note: I cant do the pound sign for some reason.
 
argon said:
How can there still be significant shortages? As of October 21st, Sony shipped over 2.5 million units to Europe.
That's what I'm wondering? It seems there's only a few options given even the most ambitious estimtates would place a good 600-800k extra PSPs waiting to be sold going by what Sony claims to have, in their words, "penetrated" Europe with. Either...

-There is no overall shortage. Regional accounts of shortages being simply isolated incidents, with availability in other locations. Possible imo.

-The shortage is UK specific, other nations then having an extreme surplus. Someone at Sony f-ed up distribution. Very possible imo.

-Sony was exaggerating on their "penetrating" figures. If true, this likely also applies to the American and Asian figures, which also far overshoot sold through estimates by up to 50%. This might be done in an effort to build solidarity for the product... but would be highly illegal. Unlikely imo.

...so which is it? Have any insight Izzy?
 
Sony's shipment numbers are "production shipments" which doesn't mean anything more than units produced. These units could be sitting in a warehouse or stacked up in a really slow ship trying to find a new route to india for all we know.
 
elostyle said:
Sony's shipment numbers are "production shipments" which doesn't mean anything more than units produced. These units could be sitting in a warehouse or stacked up in a really slow ship trying to find a new route to india for all we know.
I know, but then Sony PR went on to speicify "Shipment of 10 million units within 10 months since launch is the fastest penetration speed in the PlayStation® platforms introduced in the past." Sounds like those shipments should be in retail hands by now at least (this was October 25th, a good 2 weeks ago).
 
"Sony's shipment numbers are "production shipments" which doesn't mean anything more than units produced"

i think the IR release states that shipped is classed as a unit leaving the warehouse for retail.
 
Wait, the DS more than doubled the sales of the psp in the week of GTA:LCS and only 2 months from launch? That is fucking insane.

Sony need to get their asses in gear quick time. The DS isn't gonna slow down what with Mario Kart Online in a couple of weeks and retailers are now cutting back on the psp shelf space as we move away from launch and perhaps in preperation for the 360.
 
CoolTrick said:
Why would they be sitting in a warehouse if there were shortages going on?

Exactly. There are a variety of reasons for why production shipments destined for an area aren't there.

Products are produced in Japan/China. It can take QUITE A FEW WEEKS for cargo shipments to make it to a region on a boat in containers(cheapest method), passing through customs, through distributors, and eventually to corporate retail locations, and if you screwed up allocations between European regions, good luck getting more shipments in a timely manner.

The shortage across various European regions is very real, but it's also a huge fuckup by Sony to let it happen. They had month and months and months to get their act together for the European launch and apparently couldn't do it.

They'd better hope that it gets cleared up in the next 2 weeks or so, or they can kiss the mega holiday season goodbye.
 
jarrod said:
That's what I'm wondering? It seems there's only a few options given even the most ambitious estimtates would place a good 600-800k extra PSPs waiting to be sold going by what Sony claims to have, in their words, "penetrated" Europe with. Either...

-There is no overall shortage. Regional accounts of shortages being simply isolated incidents, with availability in other locations. Possible imo.

-The shortage is UK specific, other nations then having an extreme surplus. Someone at Sony f-ed up distribution. Very possible imo.

-Sony was exaggerating on their "penetrating" figures. If true, this likely also applies to the American and Asian figures, which also far overshoot sold through estimates by up to 50%. This might be done in an effort to build solidarity for the product... but would be highly illegal. Unlikely imo.

...so which is it? Have any insight Izzy?
there are definite shortages of psp in the uk. the most puzzling thing to me is why sony didn't ensure plenty of hardware for the year's biggest psp release? delay the game if you have to.

there are also shortages of the nintendogs ds bundles.


jarrod, good to see you again :)
 
CVXFREAK said:
PSP system (with some firmware version, either 1.5X or 2.00, I forget), a 1GB Memory Stick Duo and a system stand (in addition to everything in the Value Pack).
+ the USB cable!!
 
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