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Weezer is the modern day Beatles.

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Opinion: Weezer have made one perfect album (Blue), while the Beatles (despite having better songs) have never made a completely amazing album. Every album has at least one dud.

Blue has no duds. Weezer > Beatles
 
As a huge Beatles and Weezer fan, I used to say the same thing. I changed my mind though. Weezer has nothing on The Beatles. Maybe if they continued with their blue/Pinkerton style in music and not focus on sounding so poppy, maybe. But Weezer gets worse with every album they release, although Hurley was a pleasant surprise, it's still not the Weezer I fell in love with.

But i love Rivers and he can't do much wrong in my eyes. His voice is amazing, as is his song writing. I still go see them every chance I get, and still love it every time. Even when Pat isn't drumming.
 
smokeymicpot said:
Beatles got sort of better towards the end besides the whole John and Yoko era. Weezer gets worse.
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First post nails it. I am a huge Weezer fan though! Nothing good was made after Make Believe, Red had potential, the final blow was made after I heard "I'm your daddy" and "where's my sex" I cried for weeks in disgust.
 
Is this a troll thread? I feel like this is a troll thread. The Beatles never made a good but misunderstood album.

Weezer abandoned Pinkerton after critics / fans didn't like it and now they're just doing boring pop.
 
Timeless said:
Is this a troll thread? I feel like this is a troll thread. The Beatles never made a good but misunderstood album.

Weezer abandoned Pinkerton after critics / fans didn't like it and now they're just doing boring pop.
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Weezer's career post-Pinkerton's an interesting lesson. The band supported the album initially and stood by it but the criticisms nagged Rivers until he lead himself into a depression in 1999-2000. It was a songwriting identity crisis. The criticisms had gotten to him, he believed his songwriting to be massively imperfect, and want on this unachievable quest to writing perfect pop songs through weird analyses and experiments (in post-Pinkerton Cuomo's defense, pre-Pinkerton Cuomo was already up to weird shit like this). It's ironic that because of his intense song-writing tempering to become the perfect pop songwriter he lost all his distinctive writing personality and identity, an identity he had already firmly grasped on their debut and refined it into the majesty that was Pinkerton.
 
Weezer is closer to the modern day Badfinger, or Cheap Trick.

There will never be another Beatles. Not after the white media monoculture died.
 
silenttwn said:
Weezer's career post-Pinkerton's an interesting lesson. The band supported the album initially and stood by it but the criticisms nagged Rivers until he lead himself into a depression in 1999-2000. It was a songwriting identity crisis. The criticisms had gotten to him, he believed his songwriting to be massively imperfect, and want on this unachievable quest to writing perfect pop songs through weird analyses and experiments (in post-Pinkerton Cuomo's defense, pre-Pinkerton Cuomo was already up to weird shit like this). It's ironic that because of his intense song-writing tempering to become the perfect pop songwriter he lost all his distinctive writing personality and identity, an identity he had already firmly grasped on their debut and refined it into the majesty that was Pinkerton.
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Pinkerton was mostly written by Matt Sharp though wasn't it?
 
I must have missed the part where Weezer changed and influenced nearly every band in existence for the next four decades.
 
There wont be a modern day Beatles. The Beatles stood for a new era of music. There hasn't been a single band that has done that.

Most modern day music is either rock, rap, or relationship music.

Weezer had a few great songs. But no way.
 
Rick Rubin said it best.

“If we look at it by today’s standards, whoever the most popular bands in the world are, they will typically put out an album every four years. So, let’s say two albums as an eight year cycle. And think of the growth or change between those two albums. The idea that The Beatles made thirteen albums in seven years and went through that arc of change... it can’t be done. Truthfully, I think of it as proof of God, because it’s beyond man’s ability.”
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DataStream said:
Rick Rubin said it best.
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They weren't the only prolific legends. The output of bands in general has decreased immeasurably since the 60s. It was actually pretty common for major artists to release at least an album a year back then. Just look at the discographies of The Doors or the Rolling Stones, for example.
 
You factor in that the Beatles wrote the white album when they were 26, and broke up when Paul was just 28 you start to realise how much they achieved in such a small time.
 
Ryaaan14 said:
I was talking to this guy I know and he said fuck Weezer and I'm like wow are you fucking kidding me and he was like make that thread on GAF and I'm like ok I fucking will.

So there ya go NeoGAF.com. Weezer is the damn Beatles of modern day.
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Ooo wee ooo I look just like Paul Mcartney/ Oh oh, and you're Yoko O-


NO.

Can you at least explain how you're making this determination? Cause it certainly can't be sales or impact.
 
90s Weezer <3

Outside of a few genuinely punch-me-in-the-face bad tracks, Hurley was actually a small step back in the right direction. Too bad it only sold two dozen copies.
 
I used to like them a whole lot, but at this point I'm ready to write off Blue and Pinkerton as flukes and consider all the garbage since then* as their true talent level.

*with a few exceptions
 
Shredding.Bullets said:
Cuomo is a better songwriter than Lennon or McCartney, so I don't think the comparison is valid.
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Have you ever tried actually playing a Beatles song, or at least looked at a Beatles songbook? They used more weird chords in any given song than Rivers used in an entire album. Lennon/McCartney's songwriting was rather sophisticated.
 
Weezer has two great albums and then a mixed bag ranging from "good" to "worst thing ever recorded (most of Raditude)". I love them but the Beatles they are not. I'd rank the Foo Fighters higher, as they've managed to stay relevant longer and haven't put out a bunch of garbage lately.
 
acheron_xl said:
Have you ever tried actually playing a Beatles song, or at least looked at a Beatles songbook? They used more weird chords in any given song than Rivers used in an entire album. Lennon/McCartney's songwriting was rather sophisticated.
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Yes, and I agree they threw in some interesting chords.

Analyze Falling For You and tell me if the Beatles have anything that sophisticated or interesting musically.
 
ShowDog said:
Ever since their guitarist left it has been a meh band. Post 2000 stuff has been radio tripe and nothing more.
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I think Matt Sharp and Rivers needed one other, as noxious as their relationship was. They balanced each other out. Matt kept Rivers from singing about T-Pain and Rivers kept Matt from being a pretentious hack (check out his solo work... it's hilarious).
 
Shredding.Bullets said:
Yes, and I agree they threw in some interesting chords.

Analyze Falling For You and tell me if the Beatles have anything that sophisticated or interesting musically.
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I love a mid-song key change as much as anyone, but I'll put Martha My Dear against it any day of the week.

reelbigtink said:
I think Matt Sharp and Rivers needed one other, as noxious as their relationship was. They balanced each other out. Matt kept Rivers from singing about T-Pain and Rivers kept Matt from being a pretentious hack (check out his solo work... it's hilarious).
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What? The Rentals are awesome.
 
CloudWolf said:
Now, this is a comparison I can get behind. John Lennon and Kanye both are major assholes that create great music.
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Talented guys married to huge attention whores that think they are bigger than the famous artist they are attached to. Both try to force their genre of music further each album they release. Mommy issues.


OriginalNameGuy said:
And Chief Keef is the new Tupac.
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LOL come on dude no one it biting.
 
acheron_xl said:
I love a mid-song key change as much as anyone, but I'll put Martha My Dear against it any day of the week.
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Not to mention the song preceding it on the White Album changed meter more times than the amount of songs contained within that very album.

TheKaeptain said:
Talented guys married to huge attention whores that think they are bigger than the famous artist they are attached to. Both try to force their genre of music further each album they release. Mommy issues.
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Yeezy has a way better solo career at least.
 
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