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guns, guns everywhere
acting like crazy people at cinemas
too much religious influence
tipping culture
shit health care
obsession with military

those are the serious ones that kind of irk me. probably forgot some, too

Then again England has a lot of problems, so eh.

As someone who dislikes American empire and thinks we should change/downsize dramatically to something like Nordic countries, I'll give an alternative take to the 'blown out of proportion' posts.

1. True, 2nd amendment should be changed or gotten rid of in my view, especially for police. But it's mostly false in large cities with strict gun laws, police still have them everywhere though. NYC has military-like patrols around sometimes, I hate it.

2. True in cities don't know about small towns, but you can still go during morning/afternoon hours when theaters aren't packed for drama films. I personally like the audible crowd during big budget action films and comedies though.

3. Agree, but it's great that that none of it is legally mandated and you won't be fined or go to jail for shitting on religion. The 'influence' is basically half nothing half serious, much of it is cosmetic and superficial (in god we trust, god bless the usa, bla bla), but the other half is definitely a dark backwards plague in regards to women's rights, creationism, shit like that. Basically most of the worst shit about the US (religion, guns, ignorance) is in the south. If they were allowed to secede the North and large cities would be progressive socialist champions by now. Okay maybe not but we'd be further ahead imo.

4. Tipping isn't legally required or anything, it's just seen as a moral thing to do. For some workers (restaurant industry) they get literally 2-3 bucks per hour wage, they have to survive on tips. This is dead wrong and should change but it hasn't. For other jobs (like say barber, or delivery person) they do get real wages, but at the same time it feels like there's a personal relationship with the other person, especially barber. Tipping is like saying I respect/appreciate what you've done for me, and here's proof of that. It's weird I know but not that big of a deal. The only time you tip is A. restaurants and hotels, B. barbershop, C. food delivery. If there's a plumber you know who comes to fix shit in your house it's considered nice to tip people like that too. You really have to tip at restaurants and food delivery though, not doing so is considered hugely offensive/asshole thing to do.

5. Absolutely true, it is unbelievable and terrifying. I don't like Obamacare because it isn't single payer, and keeps for-profit intact, but it will help me as I am uninsured and under the poverty line so I will hopefully get subsidized. Anyone against universal healthcare or thinks it should be for-profit is on some hardcore evil shit, which it seems is about 70%+ of our politicians. The democrats who do favor it do so secretly rather than shout it, which makes them bad people too.

6. I actually don't think this is true, I mean we do the whole 'support the troops' shit and respect our veterans greatly but 'the US military' isn't dinner talk conversation if that's what you mean. A huge segment is patriotic as fuck but they're patriotic in delusions about what they think America is rather than the military specifically. Our military is filled with people from mostly poor working class backgrounds, the kind of people conservatives hate. But it's the conservatives that love to military hawk the most.
 
no i'm criticizing on calling it a british dish. here's a very simple test to use.

Go abroad. Visit a "british" restaurant. What is in it? If it has balti or chicken tikka masala, then I will give it to you

I get what you're saying, but by that same token sweet and sour chicken would be considered a Chinese dish even though I'm pretty sure it's uniquely American, though inspired by Chinese cuisine.

I'm assuming Chicken tikka masala is the same. And if it came from England, thanks chaps. It's good stuff.
 
how can you call it british when it's made with non-british ingredients?

Curry does not come from Britain. It's an Indian dish.

For example, if you leave Britain, and if you try to find a "British" restaurant, do you think Tikka masala will exist in there? no

As American as Pepperoni Pizza baby
 
You mean Wales isn't just a unit of measurement?

On an almost-related note, with the exception of the Cornish pasty, this thread is sadly lacking in the delights of the West Country. You haven't lived until you've been chased out of a field by a herd of cows while off your face on cider.

we had cheddar cheese a page or 2 back, the british jpeg was bad enough, you dont want to see the horror that was the american version though
 
Here's one I had a question about:

Do any Brits say "On Accident" instead of "By Accident"? I'm from Bermuda, which is a British colony but we have a lot of American influence. I never heard "On Accident" until I went to school in the US and heard people say it, and different American podcasts. Nobody I've met in Bermuda says "On Accident". This seems like a relatively recent thing.
 
Here's one I had a question about:

Do any Brits say "On Accident" instead of "By Accident"? I'm from Bermuda, which is a British colony but we have a lot of American influence. I never heard "On Accident" until I went to school in the US and heard people say it, and different American podcasts. Nobody I've met in Bermuda says "On Accident". This seems like a relatively recent thing.

on accident?
 
Here's one I had a question about:

Do any Brits say "On Accident" instead of "By Accident"? I'm from Bermuda, which is a British colony but we have a lot of American influence. I never heard "On Accident" until I went to school in the US and heard people say it, and different American podcasts. Nobody I've met in Bermuda says "On Accident". This seems like a relatively recent thing.

Not as far as I'm aware... mostly because it makes no sense.
 
Here's one I had a question about:

Do any Brits say "On Accident" instead of "By Accident"? I'm from Bermuda, which is a British colony but we have a lot of American influence. I never heard "On Accident" until I went to school in the US and heard people say it, and different American podcasts. Nobody I've met in Bermuda says "On Accident". This seems like a relatively recent thing.

I think it's on offshoot of "on purpose".
 
guns, guns everywhere
acting like crazy people at cinemas
too much religious influence
tipping culture
shit health care
obsession with military

those are the serious ones that kind of irk me. probably forgot some, too

Then again England has a lot of problems, so eh.

1. Too bad. Gun ownership is a fun hobby and the odds of actually being shot are still veerrrry low. Probably lower than being killed in a car accident, especially if you live somewhere with low crime. Being scared of guns is a stupid irrational fear like being scared of getting killed by a drunk driver or being scared of mountain lions. It's our right to own guns, and despite such high gun ownership, gun crime rates are dropping. Deal with it.

2. This stupid myth needs to die. I guess it's hard for people who live in a country where it rains all the time to believe that people actually enjoy themselves in a theatre. For shame!

3. In the government this is an issue but it hardly impacts daily life unless you're in the deep south or something. I don't have religion shoved in my face every moment like some people seem to think. If you want to talk about religious influence being a real problem, talk about a third world country.

4. Oh boo-fucking-hoo. You have to give up a couple extra dollars just so the person waiting your table can afford to feed her baby. Funny how this form of generosity is considered some kind of an issue while you quietly ignore the daily batt-ramming you get from VAT.

5. In some ways, yes and in other ways no. If you don't have health insurance then it's a bad situation if you get hurt. Keep in mind that you still have to pay for the NHS through taxes. Though I do wish we had a similar system.

6. If being supportive of and thanking our soldiers is "obsessive" then lol. I've never met someone "obsessive" about the military beyond that.
 
You mean Wales isn't just a unit of measurement?

On an almost-related note, with the exception of the Cornish pasty, this thread is sadly lacking in the delights of the West Country. You haven't lived until you've been chased out of a field by a herd of cows while off your face on cider.

The amount of times I have been attacked by cows... West Country is Best Country.
 
no i'm criticizing on calling it a british dish. here's a very simple test to use.

Go abroad. Visit a "british" restaurant. What is in it? If it has balti or chicken tikka masala, then I will give it to you


How it's been explained to me "British food sucked so bad that they're super eager to consider the indigenous cuisine of their colonies into their culture, even when they're a bit balky to do that for the people." Example given, British kebab culture.

I don't even consider that shit kebab. RRRRRREEEAAAL TAAAALK. #glockshigh #usausausa #PaulRevere
 
6. If being supportive of and thanking our soldiers is "obsessive" then lol. I've never met someone "obsessive" about the military beyond that.

Supporting a disgustingly bloated military budget is what I would call obsessive.
 
How it's been explained to me "British food sucked so bad that they're super eager to consider the indigenous cuisine of their colonies into their culture, even when they're a bit balky to do that for the people." Example given, British kebab culture.

I don't even consider that shit kebab. RRRRRREEEAAAL TAAAALK. #glockshigh #usausausa #PaulRevere

British food isn't the best historically. In recent years efforts have been made to change that opinion, but we will always be in Europe (which houses countries like France, Spain, and Italy). We do have a few dishes that deserve recognition, but we love a good doner kebab/Chinese/Indian. It's part of the culture.
 
I'm laughing at some people from each side taking the matter seriously.

Boiling water in a microwave is barbaric though
America is at this point in its history a barbaric country.

Agree though thread has gotten more serious than intended
 
Please. I've seen that in the grocery store, but I don't know a single soul that has bought or used that before.

I do! :-D (Meaning know people that have used it, I've have eaten the stuff in a while.)

Cheese in a pressurized can that will be on Earth long after humans go, along with the cockroaches and Twinkies? Now that's what I call American ingenuity! ;-)
 
As far as I am aware, only the American adaptations have aired here. I don't remember any show shot in a UK studio or production being broadcast but maybe it aired on some channel on cable.
We have BBC America, so we get pretty much all the BBC shows also. Dr Who, Top Gear, Graham Norton show, UK kitchen nightmare, you name it.
 
We have BBC America, so we get pretty much all the BBC shows also. Dr Who, Top Gear, Graham Norton show, UK kitchen nightmare, you name it.

People always forget about PBS. Member stations have been airing British produced programming for centuries, seemingly.
 
Supporting a disgustingly bloated military budget is what I would call obsessive.

That's quite a generalization brah. Maybe in highly conservative areas, but I think most people want less military spending. Unfortunately congress has demonstrated with the background check bill that they don't give a rat's ass what the people want. Regardless, YOU benefit by having the most powerful country on earth as your biggest ally. Your military is stronger as a result.

Also, a lot of that "military" spending is for medical and scientific research. They don't just allocate it all to weaponry.

EDIT: Woops, sorry for the double-post. Meant to edit.
 
That's quite a generalization brah. Maybe in highly conservative areas, but I think most people want less military spending. Unfortunately congress has demonstrated with the background check bill that they don't give a rat's ass what the people want. Regardless, YOU benefit by having the most powerful country on earth as your biggest ally. Your military is stronger as a result.

Also, a lot of that "military" spending is for medical and scientific research. They don't just allocate it all to weaponry.

EDIT: Woops, sorry for the double-post. Meant to edit.

You realise the guy you quoted is an american right?
 
That's quite a generalization brah. Maybe in highly conservative areas, but I think most people want less military spending. Unfortunately congress has demonstrated with the background check bill that they don't give a rat's ass what the people want. Regardless, YOU benefit by having the most powerful country on earth as your biggest ally. Your military is stronger as a result.

Also, a lot of that "military" spending is for medical and scientific research. They don't just allocate it all to weaponry.

EDIT: Woops, sorry for the double-post. Meant to edit.

I wasn't necessarily saying the country as a whole supports it, just that anyone who supports such a bloated military budget is overly obsessed with the military, and they are certainly out there. The amount we spend is perverse.
 
People always forget about PBS. Member stations have been airing British produced programming for centuries, seemingly.
PBS kinda lost a lot BBC content once BBC America came about. they only show the period stuff now like downton abbey.
I don't think I've ever met an American who was even aware of the existence of Wales.
I know of wales, mainly cause I watch a lot of tourchwood lol.
 
Doh lol. I hear tons of people from other countries say the same thing so it really doesn't matter. I'm addressing anyone who thinks that we're all approving of the crazy military spending.

Yeah thats fine, just wanted to make sure you were aiming it at the uk. I took issue a little bit with the last part of that post (the military mostly serves the governments needs, not the individuals) but fuck it, this isn't really the thread for that.
 
I don't think I've ever met an American who was even aware of the existence of Wales.

One of my favorite series of stories is The Prydain Chronicles, inspired by the Mabinogion.

Perhaps my favorite character was the bard, Fflewddur Fflam.

In life, I try to avoid Gwyn the Hunter.

I know a little about Cymru. :D
 
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