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[carbonbased]

this price wankery is absolutely hilarious. i don't know a single person that is a big Steam user who buys games for their full MSRP. did you console nuts not see the enormous Steam summer sale thread? the same sale where many, many folks got Just Cause 2 for $5 and Fallout New Vegas for $15? i myself got Mass Effect 2 for less than $7 during it. Steam is now doing daily deals as well, as in a hefty discount on a different game every single day.

hell i just preordered Deus Ex Human Revolution for $28.80. good luck snagging a console version for that cheap. you would have to trade it in asap to end up with that swell of a deal. oh yay, i get to lose access to my game forever (a game that will likely beg to be replayed and revisited, mind you) to maybe equal the value on the pc side, and i get to experience it at a sub-hd resolution? sign me up! at least i will own it for a week!

ps the planet thanks you for clogging up our already overburdened landfills

 

[Red]

Key Word..... "CAN". I wouldn't actually do that, nor do I have time. The longest I've played in the last decade is probably 5 hours with bathroom and small rest breaks. The point I was trying to make is I have a hard time playing a pc game for multiple hours. It starts to get strenuous on my eyes and I get agitated. Perhaps my monitor is not too great or my chair isn't the most cushion-y.

Alright. Give the program f.lux a try. It's free, and achieves roughly the same thing as an $80 pair of Gunnar glasses. I also have sensitive eyes, which get strained by LCDs easily after a matter of minutes (especially at night). Even if you're not gaming, that program should help.

 

[Sober]

this price wankery is absolutely hilarious. i don't know a single person that is a big Steam user who buys games for their full MSRP.

Steam sales are nice, but then there are games where you absolutely want it day 1, and you will pay full MSRP for it. Seems a bit rare nowadays though since everyone and their mother is offering price drops left and right on preorders and stuff.

Ain't nothing wrong with Day 1 Perches, as anything I was even mildly interested in is ripe for picking if it shows up as a sale later on.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

this price wankery is absolutely hilarious. i don't know a single person that is a big Steam user who buys games for their full MSRP. did you console nuts not see the enormous Steam summer sale thread? the same sale where many, many folks got Just Cause 2 for $5 and Fallout New Vegas for $15? i myself got Mass Effect 2 for less than $7 during it. Steam is now doing daily deals as well, as in a hefty discount on a different game every single day.

Pfft who cares? If they were console games you could make $2 a piece selling them! That's the real story here, you're obviously a deranged person.

 

[Red]

Steam sales are nice, but then there are games where you absolutely want it day 1, and you will pay full MSRP for it. Seems a bit rare nowadays though since everyone and their mother is offering price drops left and right on preorders and stuff.

Ain't nothing wrong with Day 1 Perches, as anything I was even mildly interested in is ripe for picking if it shows up as a sale later on.

You're right of course, but it's also worthwhile to note that most big PC releases, even cross platform, are $50 at launch as opposed to the console standard $60. And many DD services offer preorder discounts (5-10% off for preordering, including Steam multi-packs).

 

[Laughing Banana]

this price wankery is absolutely hilarious. i don't know a single person that is a big Steam user who buys games for their full MSRP. did you console nuts not see the....

That's a new one for me.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

That's a new one for me.

He clearly meant to say "console fruits and nuts", I apologise on his behalf my banana friend.

 

[Cipherr]

Key Word..... "CAN". I wouldn't actually do that, nor do I have time. The longest I've played in the last decade is probably 5 hours with bathroom and small rest breaks. The point I was trying to make is I have a hard time playing a pc game for multiple hours. It starts to get strenuous on my eyes and I get agitated. Perhaps my monitor is not too great or my chair isn't the most cushion-y.

Just play on your tv then.

 

[Laughing Banana]

He clearly meant to say "console fruits and nuts", I apologise on his behalf my banana friend.

Hahaha.

 

[-GOUKI-]

Advantage: pretty much everything

Disadvantage: current market is console orientated. Not as many exclusives as before

 

[disappeared]

I loved PC gaming when my old rig was still alive and kicking. Everything was peachy until my roommate fried my video card trying to run a game at settings that overheated the poor girl. One day I'll pick up a half-decent rig and play all those damned Steam games in my backlog. Oh, and with a wireless mouse and keyboard on a comfy couch on a 50" TV.

 

[jaundicejuice]

I think the main questions posed and added to the OP have been sufficiently answered in the last ten pages but I will add this. The thing that I enjoy the most about PC gaming can be summed up by this url...

http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/

This game came out nearly 11 years ago. The developer no longer exists and the publisher is now a subsidiary of another mega publisher. Hardware has evolved by leaps and bounds, the original version of Deus Ex, as is, doesn't run very well on a modern machine but a passionate fan did something about that and it's something we can all enjoy.

Video games, especially older ones, are a disposable product to most gamers, (particularly) retailers, even publishers and developers, up until recently anyways. Passionate and knowledgeable fans have kept older games alive by ensuring compatibility with modern hardware and operating systems, adding new high definition texture packs, adding new text and user-interfaces to match the modern resolutions, adding and completing content developers included buried in the game, creating new content, using the original game engine to make something entirely new or sometimes outright remaking the original game.

That is what's so fucking cool about PC gaming, for my money.

 

[kokujin]

I think the main questions posed and added to the OP have been sufficiently added in the last ten pages but I will add this. The thing that I enjoy the most about PC gaming can be summed up by this url...

http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/

This game came out nearly 11 years ago. The developer no longer exists and the publisher is now a subsidiary of another mega publisher. Hardware has evolved by leaps and bounds, the original version of Deus Ex, as is, doesn't run very well on a modern machine but a passionate fan did something about that and it's something we can all enjoy.

Video games, especially older ones, are a disposable product to most gamers, (particularly) retailers, even publishers and developers, up until recently anyways. Passionate and knowledgeable fans have kept older games alive by ensuring compatibility with modern hardware and operating systems, adding new high definition texture packs, adding new text and user-interfaces to match the modern resolutions, adding and completing content developers included buried in the game, creating new content, using the original game engine to make something entirely new or sometimes outright remaking the original game.

That is what's so fucking cool about PC gaming, for my money.

It's the same way with me, the fact I can pick up UT99 and still play with plenty of people is what I love about PC gaming.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

My game of the moment is Baldur's Gate 2. Backwards compatibility is indeed a wonderful thing.

 

[Salsa]

I think the main questions posed and added to the OP have been sufficiently added in the last ten pages but I will add this. The thing that I enjoy the most about PC gaming can be summed up by this url...

http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/

This game came out nearly 11 years ago. The developer no longer exists and the publisher is now a subsidiary of another mega publisher. Hardware has evolved by leaps and bounds, the original version of Deus Ex, as is, doesn't run very well on a modern machine but a passionate fan did something about that and it's something we can all enjoy.

Video games, especially older ones, are a disposable product to most gamers, (particularly) retailers, even publishers and developers, up until recently anyways. Passionate and knowledgeable fans have kept older games alive by ensuring compatibility with modern hardware and operating systems, adding new high definition texture packs, adding new text and user-interfaces to match the modern resolutions, adding and completing content developers included buried in the game, creating new content, using the original game engine to make something entirely new or sometimes outright remaking the original game.

That is what's so fucking cool about PC gaming, for my money.

or make a game broken on release to work

 

[Snuggles]

Man, I love playing classics I missed or my old console faves in 1080p/60fps. I agree that it's one of the great things about PC gaming, not only can you play games from long ago (backwards compatibility lol), but you can run them better than ever.

 

[Jackl]

It's the same way with me, the fact I can pick up UT99 and still play with plenty of people is what I love about PC gaming.

Amen, nothing makes me more angry then a dev/publisher pulling the plug on a game's servers a mere 2 years after launch.

 

[StuBurns]

I can't get BioShock working on PC, I could just throw it in the consoles, that's pretty frustrating right now.

Without making some random list, generally I think PC gaming is much better, and much more effort.

 

[jaundicejuice]

or make a game broken on release to work

I just got a boxed copy of that at work for 5$ :x

 

[Schmattakopf]

Wrong. Consoles still allow consumers to actually OWN the games they buy. They still allow renting, borrowing/lending, and reselling. Can you say the same for Steam? Nope.

I'm sure console companies push and capitalise on this. It's a perspective "good" for business and bad for software, and on the consumer side, it's like you own disabled livestock--you do physically own it, and it's good for one thing.

Your contention is that possession requires being able to resell, but that's not the definition and it's not important in this case, or in the case of digital music, for example. There could never be a market in used goods for any digital medium, for obvious reasons. That doesn't mean I wouldn't much rather have my games on a cloud.

 

[Red Blaster]

As someone with a sicknasty new 8 GB ram, i7 2600, GTX 570 rig, I have to say one of the WORST things about PC gaming is that shit can sometimes randomly go wrong for no obvious reason. Case in point, my onboard LAN stopped working this morning and I had to waste 2 hours scrounging around the net before finally getting it to work again. PC gaming is awesome but it's not easy.

 

[ViolentP]

Dead Air beta for Left 4 Dead 2 being released on PC today. Mark that under advantage.

 

[supersaw]

Case in point, my onboard LAN stopped working this morning and I had to waste 2 hours scrounging around the net before finally getting it to work again. PC gaming is awesome but it's not easy.

Even if your Network Interface completely fried, you could have thrown in a PCI replacement for $10 or even a USB solution, if your xbox LAN dies it's either $100 for a wireless dongle or RMA. The complexity itself offers benefits and as long as you have another device that you can Google on and your reading comprehension skills are at a high school level or better you should be golden.

Dead Air beta for Left 4 Dead 2 being released on PC today. Mark that under advantage.

We can add the Battlefield 3 Alpha to that list too.