I was overwhelmed by it at first, but it's gotten better over the year. Hell, certain cases make it a lot easier. <3 my Mid tower Cooler Master =]
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What are the most common myths associated in PC and PC gaming?
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I was overwhelmed by it at first, but it's gotten better over the year. Hell, certain cases make it a lot easier. <3 my Mid tower Cooler Master =]
Chiggs
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Building a PC is pretty rough the first time out, but it gets so much easier the second time around. I can pretty much get one up and running within 1.5-2 hours (with a nice wiring job).
Wickerbasket
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Honestly, I much prefer the PC indy scene recently. I've spent more hours playing Recettear, Minecraft and Mount & Blade than I have most 'big budget exclusives'.
I think gaming in general has to get away from the idea that every game needs to have a huge budget. You don't need a big budget to make an amazing game.
while not anymore due to graphics being so good, but back when you had high resolutions but the 3d graphics weren't so hot, there was this hollow, cheap look that seemed standard in pc games
Lactose_Intolerant
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lazorexplosion
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The expense is the biggest myth, the PS360 only seem cheaper because the hardware is sold as a loss leader with the expectation that game licensing fees/subscription costs/overpriced extras will make up the difference. Sure the price tag on a 360 looks lower, but when you actually add in the extra costs of buying many games, a gold subscription and a HD it just isn't very much cheaper than a mid range PC.
Yep I was explaining this once to some console only gamers. Having a state of the art hardware and tweeking games is a hobby within itself. Day and night really.. Most pc gamers are not like that.
I don't know what card your using, but my 6780 outputs sound over hdmi just fine to my tv. It really is just plug and play on my tv. The only problem I have is since I have a 15ft hdmi just for pc to tv, if I leave it plugged in to the tv, the monitor stays off when I boot the pc. I'm sure I can fix that but It's simple to just plug in when I need it.
MidgarBlowedUp
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myth: All games are meant to be played with a mouse and keyboard.
fact: No, they are not.
myth: PC is better than Consoles.
Fact: That's an opinion.
myth: Only PC gamers are true gamers.
Fact: That's an ignorant statement.
myth: All PC games natively support controllers.
Fact: No they don't.
myth: A console game can never look as good as the PC version of the game.
Fact: If the console game in question is never ported to PC to begin with then, the PC version can't look better since it doesn't exist.
fact: No, they are not.
myth: PC is better than Consoles.
Fact: That's an opinion.
myth: Only PC gamers are true gamers.
Fact: That's an ignorant statement.
myth: All PC games natively support controllers.
Fact: No they don't.
myth: A console game can never look as good as the PC version of the game.
Fact: If the console game in question is never ported to PC to begin with then, the PC version can't look better since it doesn't exist.
WTF does apple have to do with this thread?
I don't do PC gaming anymore because I'm a perfectionist freak. When you know that there are options to turn on effects, bump up the resolution, turn on AA but you can't because your PC is not top of the line kinda bugs me. I ended up trying to tinker the game more than I play it just to get the last drop of performance out of my PC. Even in reality it doesn't really affect the gameplay that much. It's just that I want to play the game the way it is "intended" to be. :\
Wickerbasket
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I get where you're coming from, I used to be like that. I used to spend hours fiddling with the config files and trawling forums for tips. I can see how it can become addicting. I think it's a certain type of personality, the same type that explores every box and path in a game incase they miss something.
I've learned to be a lot more relaxed though, now I usually just pick a preset recommended setting such as medium or high and roll with it.
These seem less like myths that people actually believe and more like your own passive-aggressive criticisms of PC gaming.
Big(ger) TV = consoles better.
People tend to sit far enough from a TV that it fills less of their vision than a monitor, making the size of the TV pretty much irrelevant. That's the reason why PC gamers often demand higher FOV. More of their vision is filled with a monitor so they need a higher FOV to compensate.
People tend to sit far enough from a TV that it fills less of their vision than a monitor, making the size of the TV pretty much irrelevant. That's the reason why PC gamers often demand higher FOV. More of their vision is filled with a monitor so they need a higher FOV to compensate.
I agree, I bet some of the same people who point out and whine about some new video card costing $500 had no problem paying $100 for a 20gig HDD for their 360 back in '07.
Also up until a couple years ago new PC games used to be $40-50.
Myth: PC Games have to be played with mouse and keyboard.
Fact: The Universal Serial Bus exists.
Myth: PCs are more powerful and more flexible than consoles.
Fact: No, that's true.
Myth: You should feel personally insulted when people say their platform of choice is better than yours.
Fact: No, they're just stating an opinion.
Myth: People say that only PC gamers are true gamers.
Fact: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KtYwWsVKU4
Myth: There's no way to use controllers on the few PC games that don't natively support them.
Fact: Joy2Key, etc.
Myth: There are more console exclusive games than there are PC exclusive games.
Fact: Other way around. There are entire game genres that are popular on PC and problematic to port to consoles, such as MMOs, RTS's, etc.
I love this logic because I can totally imagine you raging in your mind when you think of it.
NullPointer
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Fact: Input emulation software is a pain in the ass.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
What is this angular thing people are talking about?
NullPointer
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Alex
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No, this one is correct, PC games have a LOOK that ISN'T a soupy mess of aliasing and blur.
Still not sure which way the comfy couch myth thing is supposed to go.
I suppose for me the key issue is, what do you put the mouse/keyboard on that elevates it near enough to that sweet spot near your upper abdomen area, and gives you the luxurious left arm keyboard right arm mouse set up, that could possibly be more comfy than a big desk and a nice office chair?
I suppose for me the key issue is, what do you put the mouse/keyboard on that elevates it near enough to that sweet spot near your upper abdomen area, and gives you the luxurious left arm keyboard right arm mouse set up, that could possibly be more comfy than a big desk and a nice office chair?
NullPointer
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Wireless xbox controller works for me, but then again I have a desk off to another corner of the room when it doesn't suffice.
It was an actual quote from an actual Gaffer in an actual console vs PC thread.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You mean angular edges? Don't consoles have that too?
faceless007
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Sharp knees.
My first PS3 experience: Put disc in. Press 'X'. Error: 80010514
My first Xbox experience: Put disc in. Press 'Start'. Enter menu. Try to select menu option with 'A'. Nothing happens. Try every other button on the controller. 15 minutes of troubleshooting later, discover the controller is defective.
You can run into occasional troubles on pretty much any platform.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Honestly, it has something to do with consoles being "assured" into being easily done, even though any platforms are of equal footing when it comes to stuff like that. Never had any problems with PC but had the occasional start up trouble with PS3 for example.
Not sure about that.
My amd 4850 got obsolete so fast. It can only dream about playing the Witcher 2 as well the 360.
The argument about not needing to upgrade very often only applies every time when talking about SP games. The big draw for me with consoles over PC is current MP games and it stems from back when CSS was released. If you didn't have a high end PC from around the time of release you had a major disadvantage against those that did.
Sentenza
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Thank you.
Also,
Myth: that genre doesn't translate very well on PC, it doesn't fit, it's more a console game
Fact: there isn't such a thing. There aren't games that don't fit a PC; there are, however, genres that are more popular on consoles than on PC, which is an entirely different thing.
I'm just gonna say that I got way too used to 30FPS when I began playing Bad Company 2 on the Xbox and it felt strange and COD'ish to see it running faster when I bought it on Amazon for my PC. Was it better? Well yes, I suppose, it looks goddamned pretty awesome though.
I'm more comfortable with 60FPS in some games but not others, guess it's because I have been a console player most of my gaming life.
I'm more comfortable with 60FPS in some games but not others, guess it's because I have been a console player most of my gaming life.
Sentenza
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Relevant ones? Compared to console games? Not many, to be honest.
Take DRMs, for instance: people complain a lot about them on PC, but the console experience is by itself a giant, omni-pervasive DRM.
The only argument with some dignity behind is ease of access. PC gaming isn't very suited for soccer moms.
Then again, why a tech-savy person, a "nerd" who cares a lot about games and follow them closely as a hobby, should care about it?
Once you know some basic stuff about how to navigate an OS, playing on PC is actually even more user friendly than playing on consoles: double click on the icon to run the game.
Well, for me comfy couch is an argument.
1. I don't want a mouse and keyboard on my coffee table or even worse: on my lap. Fiddling with 3 USB devices is just too damn much on the couch.
2. I can't read shit from 3 meters away on my 40" TV when using the default settings. Especially on Steam.
There's no question that there are more technical problems on the PC. Most games don't launch in your native res, a lot of games leave all the settings on low, save files are all over the place, "I've been playing this game for a while but never signed into GFWL, oh what the hell I'll do it, oh shit where has all my progress gone?!" Games just flat out not working might be rare, but there are a lot more technical hurdles to get a game running properly, and some folk just don't want to care about that.
One of the things a lot of PC gamers struggle to imagine is that there are people that don't want to have to change their res every time, or figure out what anisotropic filtering is or whether vsync should be on. Yeah, it's "easy" once you're used to it, but if people had more empathy for those who don't want to do this stuff, we could cut the number of shitty pc vs console threads in half.
boiled goose
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comfy couch.
I play my pc from my bed lol
I play my pc from my bed lol
evil solrac v3.0
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Rahxephon91
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Yep, you are wrong and stupid if you prefer console gaming.
1. Still 3 devices to juggle with.
2. Already have glasses, doesn't help the problem. Small fonts are giving me a headache from three meters away.
For #2, I think you may need better glasses, or a tape measure.
Sentenza
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Well, to me, on the other hand, it's an incredibly poor one. For many reasons.
1. I just don't like to play on a couch and my desk chair can easily compete with any couch as a comfortable gaming setup.
2. I don't like to play on a TV, as they never compare for definition, quality, contrast and refresh with a proper monitor (and in fact I used to conne ct even my consoles to my monitors).
3. On top of that, I don't like to play on a living room, too. I like to have a more quiet and intimate gaming setup, all by myself. I know many others who share that sentiment. For someone their private corner is their personal room, for others is their studio. Luckiest ones even have a room just for gaming... You got the idea.
4. Running games at native resolution and enjoying good image quality to me matters a lot. You can't do that on consoles, doesn't matter how big and cool your TV is.
See? Different people have different opinions about what's comfortable and what not.
But that was not the point of the thread. Was it?
It's not about what you like more, it's about unfounded myths.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's more to do with the publishers, especially those that kept putting on shit like GFWL. And all games tend to always go in lowest setting at a non-native resolution whenever they are first played unless there's a separate config executable, but that's more to do with the fact that not all PCs are the same.
And yeah, it's mostly due to difference of tolerance levels, but then empathy should go both ways instead of one way.
Exactly. I laugh at how people say "why are you playing a fighting game with your keyboard" when they are followed by posts involving buying a stick for their console game.
But yeah, we're getting out of hand regarding the thread. This is just about debunking myths, not pissing contest.
There are technical issues with ties. Some of them don't come tied, and you have to tie it yourself and you can't just clip it onto your shirt. It's obnoxious and I shouldn't have to deal with it.