Adam Sadler
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I want to see Dante in Hell
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What can be salvaged from Devil May Cry 2?
- Thread starter Melkezadek
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Spyder_Monkey
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It led to Itsuno redeeming himself with DMC 3. That's it.
I just didnÂ’t like the whole attitude of this game. From the gothic tone with noir and punk elements of the first, to the general westernization of the second, it was plain horrible. And honestly all those alternative combos and DT forms were probably desperate last minute additions from Hideyaki-san in an attempt to save face, rather than actual planned mechanics from the original director. It ended as a hot mess. The whole DMC2 period was a joke and all publications at the time were pissing on Capcom.
Adam Sadler
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Is that a joke or was he really in hell? I haven't played it yet
Goddamn, that's not the final design and the DmC Dante is a better Dante than the speechless puppet of DMC2.
Even when we speak about one of the worst games in history someone take a minute to talk bad about DmC.
EVERY.TIME.
It isn't really a game that is welcomed by the fans for a multitude of reasons. Also DMC2 Dante is still superior to DmC Dante.
Also DMC2 Dante is OP by nature, he took zero damage in the story.
decisions
Member
I love how we are still feeling the void caused by a needless reboot that came after the best-selling title in the series...
Also OP nailed it about what to take from DMC2 IMO. That design should be an unlockable in every DMC game. Well really, every Dante should I guess but...
PSX, free my tired soul.
I find the DMC2 Dante a character with zero charme (almost with zero speech).
DMC3, DMC4 and DmC Dante are on another level.
DmC is an awesome game, DMC2 is a piece of broken code.
A lot of people don't know that.
Anyway, we need the amulet system back. I don't think we can get DMC2 Dante in any game, I feel like we would have seen it by now. Hell we didn't see it in DMC3.
Vince DiCola
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Ah Ok, no worries. Probably was a fun wink at the fact that DMC 2 is unloved by most, still kinda interesting
It wasn't awesome enough to warrant a sequel and almost killed the series so there's that.
DmC Dante is aggressively unlikeable. He's a complete prick in nearly every scene he's in. DMC2 Dante just stands there quietly. It's terrible versus neutral.
osnameless
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The soundtrack design had a neat idea, where the music elevated if you got to a higher combo rating. I believe another Japanese game did that as well, as someone pointed out but I don't remember which one.
Enemy designs (not bosses, there weren't that much) were also not that bad. the way you could switch and mix up weapons was also fun when you get the hang of it
DMC3 & DMC4 already had on the fly weapon switching that was seamless, no adjustment is needed.
osnameless
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True, but I was referring to the fact that you can go into your entire arsenal mid-level. In DMC 3 and DMC 4 you only can carry two weapons, which honestly was annoying sometimes....
Feel free to correct me, but I think some misunderstand Diesel's involvement with DMC 2. They had nothing to do with Dante's (and Lucia's) default outfit.
The Diesel outfits were these, and that's it:
And I think no one cared about them in the slightest.
SargerusBR
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Technically you could savage the plot from 2 with Nero and Lucia trying to rescue Dante from the Demon World. While in the Demon World somehow Vergil gets resurrected and he and Dante fight again, alongside Nero finally meeting with his father.
Unless CAPCOM will continue to ignore DMC2, so i have no idea then.
Unless CAPCOM will continue to ignore DMC2, so i have no idea then.
Putyouinmyoven
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The fact that despite this travesty we still got 3.
osnameless
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Actually, the reboot wasn't completely ill-founded. It was clear that Capcom didn't know what to do with DMC after DMC 4, and the series needed some fresh breath of air.
Was DmC the way to go? that is debatable, I personally enjoyed DMC 3, DMC 4, and DmC.
But I can see why Capcom felt a need to reboot the series.
The strange thing is, Capcom commended Ninja Theory in a recent financial report, even though it was clear they didn't want go the Ninja Theory route after the backlash to DmC. (When the game released, they said that we should except a game every 2.5 years, but it has been nearly five years and no sign of a new DMC game, rebooted or original)
What, are you telling me you didn't like "giant blob of bosses" and "generic glowing humanoid"?
Feel free to correct me, but I think some misunderstand Diesel's involvement with DMC 2. They had nothing to do with Dante's (and Lucia's) default outfit.
The Diesel outfits were these, and that's it:
And I think no one cared about them in the slightest.
I thought Diesel did the default costumes?
Yes, through an insane and very obviously done as a joke way. In the DMC1 manual there is a character never mentioned in the actual game called...Enzo maybe? In Viewtiful Joe they insinuate "Enzo" stole Dante's costume, which is why he is naked in Joe, and was the Dante in DMC2. Even weirder, Enzo was brought back in Bayonetta as the fat Joe Pesci character.
Does Gloria really count? If anything that should be something they avoid in the future.
2 years after also. That was one hell of a turn around. DmC came out over 4 years ago and we have nothing. Even between DMC3 & DMC4 was 3 years and there was a generation leap during that time.
How is it over dramatic, explain...
Feel free to correct me, but I think some misunderstand Diesel's involvement with DMC 2. They had nothing to do with Dante's (and Lucia's) default outfit.
The Diesel outfits were these, and that's it:
And I think no one cared about them in the slightest.
Dante's sucks but lucia's is fine
The game itself is boring and forgettable but it has the best Dante and it sets up a sequel perfectly, would love if we got DMC 5 with mature Dante in hell. Also the level designs aren't that bad, the guns being overpowered just kill any type of investment in the game though, you can literally finish it with only 1 button even in the higher difficulties lol
Fakeknowledge
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All them flips and acrobatics you could do were cool as shit, bring those back.
Melkezadek
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I'd also like to see a conclusion to Dante going to Hell at the end of DMC2. I wonder if over the years, Dante embraced his heritage more and more. Throughout DMC4, I couldn't help but notice that he attempted to show mercy to some of the bosses, giving them an opportunity to go back to Hell upon defeat. Sympathy for the devil if you will.
This was cut from DMC4, I would like to see it return.
I've never seen this before. 0_0. That looks sick. Didn't even know it was considered.
This made me laugh so hard. Yea, a lot of trash bosses in the game. I did like Argosax, though. Conceptually I thought he was interesting.
Not that I know of. The deal was about those alternative costumes, and the appearance of the Diesel logo in the game.
Actually, I don't dislike either, although Dante could definitely do without that foulard.
Lucia also has another outfit.
DMC4 is essentially half a game. The original ideas for DMC4 were nuts.
Name me one game series that was rebooted after reaching its peak sales.
When I get home I'll check the 3142 artbook to see if it says anything about that.
are we pretending that SE and Namco are some bastions of respecting and cultivating their IPs now? Nah, don't come at me with that.
Soul Calibur would agree with this.
I don't agree with the part that DMC would have done better under Namco and ESPECIALLY SE (I really hate SE in general). Maybe Namco would have handled it better because they have handled the Souls game pretty well with From Software but that's still a if.
But to say that Capcom has mismanaged the DMC would be an understatement.