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What did you think of The Force Awakens?

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4 out of 7, maybe 5. havent seen the prequels in a long ass time.

Kylo was pretty rad character design until he took off the mask

felt like a typical modern day big budget production akin to these marvel films...just eye candy without much to the actors/story. felt boring overall. rehashed. recycled. dumb to make Maz CG.

have high hopes for VIII though.
 
I found the movie predictable and forgettable. Although I'm not the biggest fan of the series. I can see why die hard fans enjoy it but I felt it tried waaaay too hard.
 
It's the least interesting of the Star Wars films. It's the only one that lost me long before it reached the end. On a technical level the Force Awakens is a better film than the prequels, and perhaps Return of the Jedi, but I just wasn't interested in what it wanted to say. I suppose it might even verge on being boring.
 
mug said:
I found the movie predictable and forgettable. Although I'm not the biggest fan of the series. I can see why die hard fans enjoy it but I felt it tried waaaay too hard.
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Tried way too hard? That's like the last criticism I would expect to hear of this movie. Most people will agree that it's a competently made movie that doesn't go after too many new things or risks. Who was trying too hard? What part of the movie made you think this was the case?
 
Slick on the surface but shallow and forgettable underneath. 6 or 7/10

Pretty much deflated all hype I had for any of the forthcoming movies including spinoffs.
 
Lothars said:
It shares similarties sure but there's enough differences that it easily stands on it's own.
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Sadly this isn't true at all. Dune and ANH share similarities, too, but the core ideas are completely different.

Let's see what ANH and TFA share:
- blank slate protagonist
- a villain with strong references to the former villain
- a big action set-piece involving a planet-like weapon of mass destruction
- starts on a desert planet ends with said super-weapon

I'm too tired to continue. TFA is a lazy fanservice remix of ANH. You like it, cool, but don't try to ignore that many reviews and discussions have brought up the unoriginality issue.

The biggest problem with this movie for me was the fact that it wasn't even trying to stand on it's own. The timeline between Ep VI and VII would've been much more interesting to me than what we've got.
 
I think Star Wars is just ok on the whole (outside of TESB), and I enjoyed it enough. I mean, it was basically the plot of episode iv all over again.
 
Meowster said:
A nostalgic journey that makes for a grand time. Uses the framework of the older movies and subverts some of the tropes to become its own being. Rey, Finn, and Kylo Ren ended up being great characters.
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Yup. The core of the trilogy is strong and now there's no excuse to not go above and beyond for EP8.

I'm more hyped for the next episode than I was for TFA. MUCH more. As much as I loved TFA I really hate JJ's style in general and Rian is going to bring a much needed change of pace and feel.

The characters need room to breathe like in ANH. Let's walk around a little and get to know them better.
 
Forgettable.

First 20-30 mins were great, but then it flat lines and remains terrible for the remainder of the film.
 
I won't do a list since list threads are stupid. But TFA got a lot right. JJ was just what the franchise needed. He was all wrong for Star Trek but I don't think the general public is interested in what real Trek is.

Anywho

1) I loved Rey and Finn's actors. They had a rapport that was apparent on screen and never crossed the line between two people who relied on each other as they both left familiar surroundings. If they try to pair Finn and Rey as a romantic couple it'll be a damn shame.

2) Practical effects were back and it made so much of a difference. I can't remember ever feeling removed from the film because of apparent SFX/green screen. All of the sets were very Star Warsy.

3) Hated Rey's EZ-Force training. I've mentioned it before and I don't feel like rehashing it again but I wanted Rey's journey to be a Jedi to involve more involvement from her. She succeeded again and again without much failure. Not so much as a Luke in the Cave scenario for her.

4) Needed way more world building. Wtf is The New Order/Resistance? Luke left because of reasons and R2 lost the will to live. I'm sure it'll all be explained in a satisfactory way in the next movie but right now its really frustrating!

5) Kylo Ren is a disappointing villain mostly because I never cared about him as a good person who fell victim to the Dark Side. Hes evil because of reasons. And hes whiny just like his grandpa. Ugh.

6) The lightsaber fight was visually interesting though I totally don't buy Rey's performance as a duelist but I digress. Red and blue, the planet destroying itself as it separates Rey and Kylo physically and philosophically. Neat.
 
I find it very very hard to believe anyone could honestly enjoy any of the prequels more than TFA.

Objectively, that's really hard to defend.
 
It was a reunion episode with a fun little plot. I liked it though. Was not expecting as much as others. ^ and yea, it was a world above the prequels.
 
It was okay but didn't do enough for me to really stand out. It isn't bad but it is incredibly disappointing. Nothing about it is ambitious and nothing about it is new.

Probably ranked only above AOTC for me.
 
Enjoyable 'Greatest Hits' of good Star Wars to wipe away the stench of the prequels. Story was too underdeveloped but the characters were solid. Kylo Ren is by far one of the most interesting villains in big-budget cinema in a while.
 
Escape Goat said:
I won't do a list since list threads are stupid. But TFA got a lot right. JJ was just what the franchise needed. He was all wrong for Star Trek but I don't think the general public is interested in what real Trek is.

Anywho

1) I loved Rey and Finn's actors. They had a rapport that was apparent on screen and never crossed the line between two people who relied on each other as they both left familiar surroundings. If they try to pair Finn and Rey as a romantic couple it'll be a damn shame.

2) Practical effects were back and it made so much of a difference. I can't remember ever feeling removed from the film because of apparent SFX/green screen. All of the sets were very Star Warsy.

3) Hated Rey's EZ-Force training. I've mentioned it before and I don't feel like rehashing it again but I wanted Rey's journey to be a Jedi to involve more involvement from her. She succeeded again and again without much failure. Not so much as a Luke in the Cave scenario for her.

4) Needed way more world building. Wtf is The New Order/Resistance? Luke left because of reasons and R2 lost the will to live. I'm sure it'll all be explained in a satisfactory way in the next movie but right now its really frustrating!

5) Kylo Ren is a disappointing villain mostly because I never cared about him as a good person who fell victim to the Dark Side. Hes evil because of reasons. And hes whiny just like his grandpa. Ugh.

6) The lightsaber fight was visually interesting though I totally don't buy Rey's performance as a duelist but I digress. Red and blue, the planet destroying itself as it separates Rey and Kylo physically and philosophically. Neat.
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I personally think there's more to the story than "WOW she's just that good!" I really think she's had some previous experience with the force that she's forgotten. Same goes with wielding a saber. Could be wrong here but I thought that was obvious the first time I saw the film. If that's not the case it still works within the story it's just a little bit of a stretch. The whole Mary Sue shit is so stupid though.

World building was the weakest aspect of this film. It bothers me (even on rewatches now) that there's NO ONE hanging out outside of Maz's castle and as soon as you walk in it's almost too crowded to walk around? Where are the ships? Where are the aliens who come and go? Do they just fucking live there and never go outside? Really hate that.
 
Into the Light said:
My man!

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How can people look at this and say it was 'forgettable'...
 
I thought it was just OK. Some things could've been done better. For instance, I didn't like the way certain characters (Captain Phasma, the majority of side characters, and so forth) and plot elements (such as
Luke's lightsaber, R2D2 hibernating, Han Solo's death
) were handled. There were also some filler which I didn't appreciate.

I'm excited for episode 8 though.
 
I had to watch it in two sittings because the movie couldn't hold my attention. The movie moved way too quickly from location to location and nothing felt important. It didn't help that the characters were awful. It sure looked good though. The first thing my wfie said to me when it finished was "well that was stupid." Yup.
 
It felt very dumb.

1. Rey knowing how to do all kinds of shit from being a super pilot to fighting a duel with a trained wannabe sith.

2. Shoehorning a certain actor with a "lost my car in that one night in Vegas" plot and then proceed in killing him.

3. Wannabe sith failing to live up to grandpas name could have been done in a far more elegant and subtle way, instead we get teenage angst.

4. Who and what the fuck is Snoke, the new order and that giant laser planet.

It's basically transformers levels of stupidity.
 
It was ok, the main issue was copying from the Episode IV blueprint. If I wanted to see Episode IV plot points again I'd watch Episode IV.

Will there be another death star to destroy by Episode IX ?

Will death stars be a Star Wars theme if they keep making Episodes (like XX).
 
PhantomZone said:
It was ok, the main issue was copying from the Episode IV blueprint. If I wanted to see Episode IV plot points again I'd watch Episode IV.

Will there be another death star to destroy by Episode IX ?

Will death stars be a Star Wars theme if they keep making Episodes (like XX).
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I really hope we're done with superweapons permanently. Empire didn't need one and it's regarded as the best SW film.
 
PhantomZone said:
It was ok, the main issue was copying from the Episode IV blueprint. If I wanted to see Episode IV plot points again I'd watch Episode IV.

Will there be another death star to destroy by Episode IX ?

Will death stars be a Star Wars theme if they keep making Episodes (like XX).
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5/8 movies have a Death Star in them so far. Enough with the Death Stars already.

Poe: "Starkiller Base totes isn't a Death Star 'cause it's bigger."

Fuck you, Poe.
 
Trigonometrize. said:
This mentality to me seems like a huge dismissal of everyone at Lucasfilm that has been working hard for decades on both past and present Star Wars films. Lucas did some incredible things for the franchise and the medium, but he even chose not to direct Empire and Jedi coming off the production disaster of the original. He's not the only one that has ever contributed to making Star Wars awesome before and after the Disney acquisition. But that's just my opinion.
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He didn't go to the set every day and sit behind the camera and direct ESB and RotJ, but he was still in complete control. The directors didn't do anything he didn't want done. This situation couldn't be more different. I never said he was the one and only contributor to Star Wars, but he is the creator, he's the auteur, and I'm just not interested in SW without his involvement. Never have been, I never really got into any expanded universe stuff. I remember trying to read Heir to the Empire and having to stop halfway through, it was just so lame. "How is it you are able to repel my Force energy bolts???"
 
Nabbis said:
It felt very dumb.

1. Rey knowing how to do all kinds of shit from being a super pilot to fighting a duel with a trained wannabe sith.

2. Shoehorning a certain actor with a "lost my car in that one night in Vegas" plot and then proceed in killing him.

3. Wannabe sith failing to live up to grandpas name could have been done in a far more elegant and subtle way, instead we get teenage angst.

4. Who and what the fuck is Snoke, the new order and that giant laser planet.

It's basically transformers levels of stupidity.
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I have no issue with this if we see in the next movies that she is indeed a prodigy who surpasses Luke and Anakin. But If they dumb down her skill in ep 8 like people seem to want then it really will be ridiculous that she was able to do what she did in TFA.
 
zsynqx said:
I'd probably rank it third behind ANH and TESB.

My full ranking

TESB>ANH>TFA>ROTJ>ROTS>TPM>AOTC
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Pretty close to how I'd rank it, though 4-7 are all pretty consistent in quality to me, with Empire jumping ahead. Prequels just suck. So If I were to rate the series:

TESB > ANH ~ TFA ~ ROTJ >>>>> ROTS >>> TPM > AOTC

TFA has a lot of flaws, but it was just such an enjoyable ride that I could overlook them.

I thought the Rey, Finn, and Ren fight was pretty well portrayed - Finn got his ass kicked pretty badly only having stormtrooper level hand to hand training. He held out okay at the start against a cocky and heavily injured Ren but never had the upper hand. I thought it was pretty obvious that Ren would have easily bested Rey if he had just wanted to kill her. Even as gravely wounded as he was (which seemed to get worse as the fight went on) he was ultimately able to toy with her and was more trying to coax her to the dark side than anything else.
 
Sunster said:
I have no issue with this if we see in the next movies that she is indeed a prodigy who surpasses Luke and Anakin. But If they dumb down her skill in ep 8 like people seem to want then it really will be ridiculous that she was able to do what she did in TFA.
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Being a prodigy makes her boring. What are her character flaws?
 
Great movie, but I feel like they played it way too safe. Finn was very interesting, he had flaws and a good personality. Then it turns out the main characters is in fact yet another fucking prodigy with hidden skills..
 
Sunster said:
I have no issue with this if we see in the next movies that she is indeed a prodigy who surpasses Luke and Anakin. But If they dumb down her skill in ep 8 like people seem to want then it really will be ridiculous that she was able to do what she did in TFA.
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It will be ridiculous that she was able to do what she did, no matter what after-the-fact explanation they contrive.
 
Was completely over the moon with it when it came out, but I've seen it a couple times since and had to process it. I like it, it's a decent film, but I don't think it offers much in particular.
 
Escape Goat said:
Being a prodigy makes her boring. What are her character flaws?
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She's too confident/naive, runs away from her fears, lets emotion overcome her. I'm thinking of when she kept telling Finn to stop holding her hand, told Han she can take care of herself (she doesn't need a gun), the "you pull the trigger" line for being naive/overconfident, refuses to accept (at least initially) that her family isn't coming back for her and chooses to stay on Jakku because of it (overcome with emotion), and runs from her fears as soon as she touches the saber (instead of embracing her destiny). I think there's much more to why she ran from the saber than what we see in EP7.

That's what I got off the top of my head.
 
Saw it in the cinema when it first came out. I think it's almost a carbon copy of A New Hope. They might as well have just remade that film since that's what a lot of films seem to be nowadays. Whether that's a bad thing or not, I don't really know since I don't really watch Star Wars films often. It was enjoyable, though I couldn't help but think of all the plot conveniences as I was watching it. I loved all of the new characters, not so sure about Rey though since it seems a bit weird how she knew how to hold off Ren despite having pretty much zero lightsaber experience.
 
rather than make a thread about it, I'll just ask in here despite it being a bit off topic.

I caught part of Ep I last night at the gym and there was a scene where Anakin tells his mother directly that he was going to come back and free her. Was it ever explained why he didn't?
 
DiipuSurotu said:
LOL

He wishes he was that.
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yea, what context do we have of him being some Vader lvl villain? Just because he was a general of TFO?

guek said:
rather than make a thread about it, I'll just ask in here despite it being a bit off topic.

I caught part of Ep I last night at the gym and there was a scene where Anakin tells his mother directly that he was going to come back and free her. Was it ever explained why he didn't?
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Wrapped up in becoming Jedi #1 I think. Explains his rage in Revenge of the Sith. He was really mad at himself for failing her.
 
Surfinn said:
I find it very very hard to believe anyone could honestly enjoy any of the prequels more than TFA.

Objectively, that's really hard to defend.
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The Force Awakens is an objectively better made film than the prequels. However, the enjoyment one derives from a film isn't dependent on that and it's not an objective measure. Especially since the problem is that there are no real high points in the film, and the film can be seen as dull on the whole; even when the moment-to-moment pieces are good to excellent.
 
It didn't really do anything for me. It didn't contribute anything new or unique to the franchise and felt like a compilation of Star Wars's best hits. It wasn't a bad movie and it was well done, but it felt like one of those movie reboots that added, improved, or expanded nothing significant from the source material. Playing it safe may be what Star Wars needed to get back on its feet and it was enjoyable to watch in the moment, but nothing stuck with me after watching it.
 
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