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What happened to rock music?

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Well, I am not saying they are shit or anything, perhaps they defined the whole decade, but they aren't for me. However, I am not saying the decade was shit because of them.

Also, Really dislike that decade because of the popularity of Britpop and the rise of the Gallagher Brothers. Douchebags.



Whilst Pavement and Modest Mouse were indeed awesome, they aren't strong enough to save the whole decade.

80s we had the Post-Punk awesomeness of Gang of Four, Joy Division, The Cure, Echo & the Bunnymen, Bauhaus, The Raincoats, The Teardrop Explodes, The Psychedelic Furs and Killing Joke and the Shoegaze awesomness of My Bloody Valantine, Ride and Lush. 70s we had the Sex Pistols, The Fall, Joy Divisions....

Bloody Hell, the decades aren't comparable.

ride and lush didn't even release their debut lps until the 90s
 
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Old farts are still holding the flag high.
 
CHVRCHES - Lies (tell me this isn't rock music)

I've been meaning to listen to Chvrches (I keep hearing good things about them), so I took this as an opportunity to finally listen to one of their songs. This song doesn't sound like "rock" music to me.

I guess that is part of the problem with all the directions this thread is going in. You sort of have to define what sub-genre someone is looking for before you can give useful recommendations. It seems like there are some really divergent sub-genres of "rock" nowadays that don't sound a whole lot like each other.
 
I'd say this post says more of your tastes than the quality of music in the 90s.

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ride and lush didn't even release their debut lps until the 90s

While, I did specify that a year or two of a decade doesn't help it in anyway, the 90s also destroyed those bands since thier superior stuff was actually recorded during late 80s. Another reason why the 90s sucked. Most of those Shoegaze and Post-Punk bands if not all of them changed their style to be more Alternative Rock or ceased to exist. Thank god for the 00's where a lot of revival of those classical genre happened before our own eyes.
 
Nah, Shine sucks. The World I Know and Heavy are good.
Get yourself some Alice in Chains and Mad Season which has a good amount of material to have at your disposal. Newer Alice in Chains music isn't quite as great as it was with Layne (to me), but still is the best rock you can find today.
 
The Gaslight Anthem, The Horrible Crowes, Jack White, Vampire Weekend, Arcade Fire, Haim and Japandroids have all put out some good rock and/or roll music in recent years. Probably some others, too.
 
Oh, and I just got that new Queens of the Stone Age from the library the other day and it seems pretty legit thus far.
 
That's crazy! You're crazy! Stop talking crazy!

I hope I Made You Realise that the best Isn't Anything era song wasn't even on the damn album. :)

Don't worry, I get that a lot. I am used to be petrified when I say this :)

But yeah, that song wasn't there, but again, we did get a lot of EPs and demos released from them, so ain't complaining.
 
If I can still get a new ska album every couple months, I'm sure you guys can get reg vanilla rock still.

Just not on the radio
 
todays rock only sucks if youre too lazy to search for new music. 2013 has been a great year for music.

Today's great rock sucks because the quality acts being listed earlier in this thread weren't searched for by RECORD COMPANIES. This enforces a small sample size in a vast majority of folks who don't wanna search thru mountains of shit and stuff far outside their tastes for an occasional diamond, plus keeps those quality acts from reaching stardom that would have happened in years past via record companies seeking to FIND the next big thing, not MAKE it.
 
Today's great rock sucks because the quality acts being listed earlier in this thread weren't searched for by RECORD COMPANIES. This enforces a small sample size in a vast majority of folks who don't wanna search thru mountains of shit and stuff far outside their tastes for an occasional diamond, plus keeps those quality acts from reaching stardom that would have happened in years past via record companies seeking to FIND the next big thing, not MAKE it.

Or maybe those RECORD COMPANIES knew about them before hand and didn't pick them up because they think that they don't sell?

Also a lot of great records from smaller and unknown bands were all picked up by those RECORD COMPANIES?
Have you heard of TRAAMS, Drange, Factory Floor? Well, those bands have the same record label as Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand and LCD Soundsystem...
 
There's always been shitty rock music, nothing's changed except the names. There was shitty rock in the 70s, and there is shitty rock today. Big deal.
 
right before the golden 90's era those same bands were underground doing live shows and opening for people in the 80's ....so whatever is out there now you may have to dig deeper is all. What is pushed as mainstream or easily accessible is fickle.
 
Or maybe those RECORD COMPANIES knew about them before hand and didn't pick them up because they think that they don't sell?

Also a lot of great records from smaller and unknown bands were all picked up by those RECORD COMPANIES?
Have you heard of TRAAMS, Drange, Factory Floor? Well, those bands have the same record label as Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand and LCD Soundsystem...

They weren't promoted like even Franz Ferdinand was. That's the point, especially since the post largely references bands with record contracts...
 
i have more good music available to me than at any point during my life, but the days of great rock bands being pushed to the stratosphere by company money are dead. pop culture is too democratised for this model to work as it used to and record labels have far more efficient and calculable means of turning a sliver of a profit.

the chances are, the band who records the modern "ten" or "siamese dream" will probably never play more than a 500 cap venue. we don't have billboard - we have bandcamp. there's definitely something lost there, but when i'm screaming along at a touche amore show in a sweatbox with a low ceiling, i don't feel like i'm missing out.
 
that depends. if you mean mainstream rock then yeah they are dead. almost all mainstream rock bands or semi rock bands have switched to electronic music eg: linkin park. this is linkin park latest single and i don't hear anything in the song that even reminds me of rock.

there are still tons of rock bands though. just none that are mainstream. just browse the past few pages of this thread
 
When the local "rock" stations bend over backwards and start playing Lorde, Imagine Dragons, and Capital Cities all day riding the alt/pop homogenization, I wish I could listen to Nickleback. There's no other choice for music here and I've resorted to 80s/90s hits because those have a little more energy.
 
-- doo-wop killed rock n roll
-- Brits killed rock n roll
-- prog rock killed rock n roll
-- folk killed rock n roll
-- disco killed rock n roll
-- punk killed rock n roll
-- new-wave killed rock n roll
-- hair bands killed rock n roll
-- grunge killed rock n roll
-- rap-metal killed rock n roll
-- indie killed rock n roll
-- something else is killing rock n roll as we speak

(Hint: "rock n roll" has always been some collective middle-ground concept of what-used-to-be while being replaced at present with something that will later define it)
 
There are tons of modern rock bands that are great. Most modern "rock" music you hear on the radio on pop stations and stuff is just garbage .. its that simple.

You are doing it wrong if you plan to judge an entire state of music just by listening to the radio.
 
Lots of confusion about Shoegazer music here. Cocteau Twins had the genre on lockdown all through the 80s. The early 90s - Slowdive, Lush, Ride, Curve, etc. - was the swan song.
 
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While, I did specify that a year or two of a decade doesn't help it in anyway, the 90s also destroyed those bands since thier superior stuff was actually recorded during late 80s. Another reason why the 90s sucked. Most of those Shoegaze and Post-Punk bands if not all of them changed their style to be more Alternative Rock or ceased to exist. Thank god for the 00's where a lot of revival of those classical genre happened before our own eyes.

arbitrarily deciding not to count some of the best years of the 90s would make the decade less good, i agree
 
Lots of confusion about Shoegazer music here. Cocteau Twins had the genre on lockdown all through the 80s. The early 90s - Slowdive, Lush, Ride, Curve, etc. - was the swan song.

The term didn't come around until the 90s. I'd say Cocteau Twins were more of an influence, along with Jesus and Mary Chain and MBV.
 
Not sure what the OP's issue is but here's a couple of great recent rock bands

Screaming Females:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ism4J7QvsZQ

Theres nothing quite like finding a new band that you love instantly, and these are them for me, thanks for the info! I pretty much stick to the 5 or 6 'big' bands i've always liked and don't look for new stuff - partly because I don't know where to look, and partly because I don't have the time / am lazy(!). Gonna visit this thread (and Bandcamp) more often.
 
Theres nothing quite like finding a new band that you love instantly, and these are them for me, thanks for the info! I pretty much stick to the 5 or 6 'big' bands i've always liked and don't look for new stuff - partly because I don't know where to look, and partly because I don't have the time / am lazy(!). Gonna visit this thread (and Bandcamp) more often.

Do you have Spotify? Their recommendations based on bands you listen to are pretty good.
 
Well that's the general crux of the 90s - the sudden urge to micro-genre every single band and sound. It's gotten way out of hand.

Agreed. It was the era of misnomers like Grunge and Alternative, and media-created nonexistent genres like Electronica. I liked it better when all of the good music was just called "college rock." :P
 
It does seem like the days of the larger than life, stadium filling rock bands are over. No one seems to want to be a rock star anymore.

When the local "rock" stations bend over backwards and start playing Lorde, Imagine Dragons, and Capital Cities all day riding the alt/pop homogenization, I wish I could listen to Nickleback. There's no other choice for music here and I've resorted to 80s/90s hits because those have a little more energy.

I know the feeling. The "rock" station in my area have started playing Mumford and Sons for goodness sake. I blame freakin' Clear Channel for the homogenization of radio.
 
Rock is presently in the best place it's been in over a decade. The past year has felt like amazing album after amazing album (Portugal, Midlake. Pearl Jam, Queens of the Stone Age, Soundgarden... just to name a few). Six years ago, I might have agreed, but 2012 and 2013 have drenched me in more incredible music than I have time to listen to.
 
Do you have Spotify? Their recommendations based on bands you listen to are pretty good.

No I haven't. I downloaded the app on my iPad but never got around to signing up. I don't know where I am with music at the moment - some of the bands i've always followed are Pearl Jam, Maiden, NIN, Manic Street Preachers, Dream Theater - but I don't think I want any more of those kinds of musical styles. At the moment I can't stop listening to Empire of the Sun (yes I know I know, I like what I like ok:-) ). The Screaming Females song posted earlier was an instant hit for me, love it!
 
I know the feeling. The "rock" station in my area have started playing Mumford and Sons for goodness sake. I blame freakin' Clear Channel for the homogenization of radio.

I feel like this is definitely the answer. In the 90's, rock radio was better about playing the stuff reflective of what people were actually listening to, or at least they dictated what people listened to because the internet wasn't such a primetime easy way to find new music as it is now. I feel like the main issue nowadays is people are either into indie or into heavier music, whether it be metal or punk or metalcore or post-hardcore or whatever, but the radio (read: Clear Channel) is for the most part deathly afraid of putting anything with screaming vocals on the air. As a result, all I hear when I rarely tune to my rock station right now is Seether, Theory of A Deadman, Volbeat, and new music from old bands that were popular like Linkin Park, Nickelback, etc. Which doesn't reflect the kind of rock I or anyone I know really listens to anymore.

I'm 31 but I recently dated an 18 year old and even she was into heavy stuff she found through social media and stuff like Pandora. Hell, even the majority of your festival shows have a lot of heavy acts that get no radio play but have thousands of people in the crowd.

I have to agree that there is still plenty of great new music out there, but the radio stations aren't playing it. There have always been the "hipster" music types that purposely don't like anything popular, but I just think now after Clear Channel's monopolizing of the airwaves, rock stations are just really out of touch, likely as a direct result.
 
yea if you are into mainstream rock must suck HA HA.

I love modern music.

Cloud Nothings
Screaming Females
Thee Oh Sees
Bars of Gold
Joyce Manor
Marnie Stern
Girls
Shinobu
Hard Girls
Milk Music
Malkmus
Deerhunter
Jay Reatard (RIP)
Black Keys

all have released some great records in the past few year.
 
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