TannerDemoz
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They'll drop a load of stuff on the e-store probably making it free before implementing the price charge. So, as of yet, nothing.
I don't see myself paying for Nintendo online services. But what makes me rage is actually the fact, that we don't have the possibility to buy VC games on the eShop, since they will be tied to the online services. I loved the VC games on the 3DS, but I won't spend s penny on the online services to get an opportunity to play them on the Switch.
Not sure what Microsoft and Sony has done to earn the fee either to be perfectly honest.
Yeah I'm guessing by adding a few Nintendo can now claim premium online. I can't imagine more than an incredibly small number of people playing online games on a Nintendo console especially unlocked. Considering how voice chat works Nintendo clearly doesn't think so either but you may as well rake in easy money.What has any console maker done to justify it ? MS and Sony can't even keep microtransactions and loot boxes from their first party games despite the fact that we pay them like $40 a year just to be able to play online.
Nintendo, (just like the other 2) are charging because they can. Because they know there are people that will pay to play the online modes in MK8, Splatoon, Rocket Legue and at some point Smash and Pokemon.
The console continues to sell great even after revealing their paid online plan and I bet they have run the numbers and decided it's better to have 30% of users playing online and paying than having 80% playing for free.
How about giving away games every month? Or having a large number of online games worth playing? Or offering proper voice chat?
You mean games you can only play while you pay? Wouldn't exactly call that giving it away. Also, large number of online games worth playing and proper voice chat are free elsewhere. So my confusion still stands.
PS+ AND GWG is the same.
The same thing Microsoft and Sony have done to earn it - nothing. But that's why it will work. People checked their brains at the door on this stuff fifteen years ago.
The Classic Selection service that comes with the online subscription is officially a different thing from Virtual console.Is that true?
It's not delayed because they can't do it sooner. It's delayed until after the holidays as a deliberate trap for consumers. They're selling a swathe of multiplayer focused games, on a console that ostensibly lacks a subscription service, and the average person isn't going to see the "well actually we're going to charge a fee soon" small print when they buy it.This clearly is an area where Nintendo is in over their heads. Delayed to 2018. Their Switch online phone app STILL only supports one game, which is Splatoon 2. If they had their shit together, the app would include Mario Kart, Arms, 3rd party games, and at the very least the simpler stuff like Mario Odyssey leaderboard challenges.
At this point I'd rather see them nuke any paid access and just focus on free online and making VC available with the same discount program Wii to Wii U had for Switch.
The same thing Microsoft and Sony have done to earn it - nothing. But that's why it will work. People checked their brains at the door on this stuff fifteen years ago.
"What has Nintendo done to earn the online usage fee in 2018?"
They brought sexy back.
That costs money.
You already paid for a console and the games. You don't owe them nothing
Same can be said for PS4 and XBOX online. It was free (PS) generation before why not now?
Yeah yeah free games. I'd rather have free online than those games I can buy for cheap later on.
I don't think Nintendo has really shown any worth to their idea of a paid online system at the moment but obviously they also haven't shared their full vision of it either.
The biggest problem I see Nintendo having is merging the phone app and Switch in an organic way. Its a pretty safe guess the phone app is being positioned as the hub of the online service, but so far the only (major) function is voice chat in Splatoon 2. Unless you play Splatoon 2 at a pro level you would likely never open the app. I don't think I have since maybe a day or two after it released. Nintendo need to make the app appealing and feature packed enough to make the hassle of using it and paying to play online worthwhile to the average user.
Now I know Nintendo is jumpy about online communication and slow to add features, but I guess by the time of launch this is what I want to see:
1. Global communication. Be able to talk and message people on your friend list at any time through the app. Not just in specific games.
2. Bluetooth audio streaming. The Switch should be able to stream audio to a users phone for voice chat. Not require them to use multiple messy cables.
3. Integrated shopping. The eShop is already available online. Allow me to buy through the app.
4. Play history. Nintendo records your play history but requires you to use both the Switch and the parental control app to get the most thorough breakdown. Both sets of information should be available from the app.
5. We already know online enabled VC is coming, but I'l list it here anyway.
6. My Nintendo integration. Same as with the integrated shopping, I should be able to perform all of the My Nintendo functions from within the app.
That said, I've fully prepared myself for the online service simply being online VC titles, more individual sub-sites in the app and a yearly disappointing drain on my wallet.
Nintendo doesnt care about online. Its not popular in Japan, its expensive, and equally importantly, they dont know how to do it. Thats why they hired a firm that specializes in online commerce to do it for WiiU (Online is online right?). They outsourced to DeNa who is building something as cheaply as possible. Everything is server based. Doing centralized systems is much more expensive and hard. So every game handles everything but central account services/friends on its own. once again Nintendo has to discover 2007 themselves, as Sony did the same thing sans outsourcing.
Theres no way to do wireless headphones on the Switch, except via WiFi direct, which Im doubting it supports.
Understand. Nintendo bought the Shield 2 off the shelf, nodded it a bit and shipped it. They dont understand the online world, they really dont understand anything. Asking them to match features with the other consoles is a waste of time. Dont buy from Nintendo until they go third party, and let thr adults handle the heavy lifting so they do what they do best.
Yes I know many will see this as hate, but its simply the facts of the matter. And so long as thr people who rose in thr Super Famicom days are setting policy in Kyoto, and more importantly doing their market research by looking out the window it will remain so.
If Nintendo were smart they'd forego it entirely, when the Switch Pro releases they can begin to poach Xbox One & PS4 players that want free online.
So long as Switch doesn't have Overwatch, COD, Battlefield, FIFA, PUBG, Destiny and the like then Nintendo isn't going to eat make any significant portion of PS4 and Xbox One's multiplayer base. Even with free online.