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What if The Force Awakens sucks?
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Dark Ninja
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I hope it does just to see the aftermath
BluePigGanon
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I'll eat crow later if I have to but I imagine worst case it will be better than the prequels but not as good as the originals. That's worst case. If I had to bet, I would say it will be good enough to trigger some debates over where it ranks among the OT (e.g., not as great as Empire, not as groundbreaking as ANH, but better than ROTJ).
-MD-
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Same, it'd be more entertaining for me than the movie itself.
That's gonna be great
BluePigGanon
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JJ/Disney does have the benefit of lowered expectations, following the prequels. Regardless of how good the movie actually is (and I expect it'll at least be okay), just being better than the prequels plus the thrill of seeing the OT cast alone will bump it into megahit status.
Prepare yourselves for a lot of hacky "Return of the Jedi"-pun headlines regarding SW being [Empire Strikes] "back".
Rhomega Beta
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He'll review it whether it's good or bad. He liked Star Trek: The Star Trek, despite its flaws.
Well it's been 3 years since a Star Trek or Star Wars movie came out.
JimJamJones
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GAF seems to love being debbie downer when it comes to TFA recently.
Being a debbie downer means I get either validated or positively surprised.
Rhomega Beta
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Well we're being cautiously optimistic after the Prequel Trilogy, and people aren't jumping for joy at the idea of Disney at the helm.
BluePigGanon
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Yeah, but there's a difference between having reasonable expectations and setting oneself up for confirmation bias.
It would be disappointing, but not particularly surprising.
I'm personally very excited to see the film, but I'm not at all convinced that what we're seeing in the trailers isn't hiding some excessively cartoony element to the film that will turn off a lot of people. I'm talking about the segment of longtime fans that were fed up with the prequels, as opposed to the hardcore who became apologists, or the younger ones who have their own legitimate nostalgia. Star Wars as a property is going to have a hard time winning back the hearts and minds of people like me. The character of Maz Kanata alone is a big question mark that could make or break a significant portion of the film as far as I'm concerned.
In terms of box office, I'm sure it will be successful no matter what.
Overall I have more faith in J.J. Abrams than the average internet commentator, but it's a steep hill to climb and Into Darkness gave me enough pause to keep my expectations in check.
I'm personally very excited to see the film, but I'm not at all convinced that what we're seeing in the trailers isn't hiding some excessively cartoony element to the film that will turn off a lot of people. I'm talking about the segment of longtime fans that were fed up with the prequels, as opposed to the hardcore who became apologists, or the younger ones who have their own legitimate nostalgia. Star Wars as a property is going to have a hard time winning back the hearts and minds of people like me. The character of Maz Kanata alone is a big question mark that could make or break a significant portion of the film as far as I'm concerned.
In terms of box office, I'm sure it will be successful no matter what.
Overall I have more faith in J.J. Abrams than the average internet commentator, but it's a steep hill to climb and Into Darkness gave me enough pause to keep my expectations in check.
BronsonLee
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Bobby Roberts
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I hope that film knocks me out TWO times.
The place not the movie.
BronsonLee
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You're gonna get up from the first one and walk right into a haymaker
...probably dead soon
DragonSworne
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Non CG storm troopers makes this notion nonsense.
tensuke
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I honestly don't think it can ever live up to the hype. We've been waiting so long for new Star Wars, but y'all remember both Star Trek movies right? They were alright, I enjoyed them, but they could have been so much better. Sadly I'm gonna say SW will probably not be as good as it could be...but it will still be good. Once we're past the "omg new star wars" hype, I think people will be able to look with a more critical eye.
Charles Foster Kane
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It's impossible.
Lifejumper
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Whats with the negative sw threads lately?
The popular contention is that J.J. Abrams doesn't have any special love or interest for Star Trek, so was only concerned with making bankable movies, while on the other hand he is a huge Star Wars fan and would be more likely to put out a true labor of love.
Of course I don't know if that's 100% true, but I like to hope.
Bobby Roberts
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You refer to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the Force?
You think we should tell others that we ain't got no force anymore?
Spiritreaver
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If it sucks I can't wait for people to create a reality where it doesn't exist just so they can enjoy a few movies.
LookAtMeGo
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From my extensive and rigorous research, calculations and in depth analysis.. this is correct.
Poimandres
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I think it will be solid but ultimately forgettable. Meh.
Isn't it almost guaranteed to suck? The OT is nostalgia. It was new back then. We watch it now and see it's kinda hokey, but charming. The story and the characters are what sold it, not the action sequences (although some of the battles are iconic).
With the new films, I guarantee it's going to have prequilogy-levels of dumb action scenes. None of the characters are going to feel Star Wars-y. We'll have writers trying to recreate what they think Star Wars is. We'll have Harrison Ford trying to act like what people expect of Solo, rather than act like Solo.
I'm sure it will be a solid film. I'm sure it will make a fuckton of money. And I'm sure a lot of people are going to enjoy it and it will introduce a lot of people to the Star Wars universe.
I just don't think it'll be a good Star Wars film. I'd love to be wrong, but I have 0 hype for the movie. Maybe I'll check it out in theaters if the reviews are favorable, but I'm not holding my breath.
With the new films, I guarantee it's going to have prequilogy-levels of dumb action scenes. None of the characters are going to feel Star Wars-y. We'll have writers trying to recreate what they think Star Wars is. We'll have Harrison Ford trying to act like what people expect of Solo, rather than act like Solo.
I'm sure it will be a solid film. I'm sure it will make a fuckton of money. And I'm sure a lot of people are going to enjoy it and it will introduce a lot of people to the Star Wars universe.
I just don't think it'll be a good Star Wars film. I'd love to be wrong, but I have 0 hype for the movie. Maybe I'll check it out in theaters if the reviews are favorable, but I'm not holding my breath.
Trickster
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It probably will in a sense. I feel like people are expecting to have the magic of the first 3 movies happen all over, and I just don't think that's possible given how much of a known entity the star wars universe is a this point. So even if it's good, I feel like people won't feel that it lived up to their hype or unreasonable expectations
RowdyReverb
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If the movie sucks, like actually "rotten" on RT:
- It will still make oodles of money upon release, but the opening weekend for the sequels will suffer.
- There will still be several sequels (which could surpass it in quality) because the gears are already in motion
- There will be comparisons of quality between the new trilogy and the prequel trilogy and an uprising of contrarians saying "George Lucas wasn't so bad after all". The prequel trilogy is entering nostalgia territory, after all.
- Fans will call for J.J. Abrams' blood (this might happen even if the movie is decent)
There is no possibility that it will be a "bad" movie. Without a doubt it will be an entertaining and fun adventure filled with nostalgic references to the previous films.
However, among nerdom, it will be seen as shitty. With the amount of expectation that is surrounding this film, it is literally impossible for it to live up to the hype. No film could.
Even worse, Star Wars fandom is not some monolithic entity that agrees on every aspect of the Star Wars universe. There is a sizable population that will get pissed off if some minor detail of the Millennium Falcon is incorrect or there is some mild plot inconsistency with the previous films. "But Aquaman...you cannot marry Wonder Woman. You're from two different worlds..."
In the end, the general population will think it was a good time. A significant percentage of Star Wars fans will think it's the greatest thing ever because they've been waiting for a new film for so long. There will also be a sizable group who will see it as the fucking apocalypse because "Leia reached for the saber with her left hand and she's supposed to be right handed!!" or something to that effect.
However, among nerdom, it will be seen as shitty. With the amount of expectation that is surrounding this film, it is literally impossible for it to live up to the hype. No film could.
Even worse, Star Wars fandom is not some monolithic entity that agrees on every aspect of the Star Wars universe. There is a sizable population that will get pissed off if some minor detail of the Millennium Falcon is incorrect or there is some mild plot inconsistency with the previous films. "But Aquaman...you cannot marry Wonder Woman. You're from two different worlds..."
In the end, the general population will think it was a good time. A significant percentage of Star Wars fans will think it's the greatest thing ever because they've been waiting for a new film for so long. There will also be a sizable group who will see it as the fucking apocalypse because "Leia reached for the saber with her left hand and she's supposed to be right handed!!" or something to that effect.
Big Baybee
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The Star Trek movies aren't bad. I thought most people's complaints were "this isn't what Trek is supposed to be!"?
Rktk
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I would be entertained, I think it is more likely to be mediocre and five years will pass before Star Wars fans collectively agree.
I'm more interested in seeing what the main reasons for the inevitable blowback will be. There will be people who dislike and even rabidly hate the movie, that I'm sure of. The franchise doesn't have any unifying things except for ANH, ESB, and maybe KotOR. Everything else always causes some sort of divide, even TCW which the hardest of hardcore EU people hate due to the way it messed up Genndy's Clone Wars and the rest of the original Clone Wars Multimedia Project.
IdreamofHIME
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George Lucas is allowed to make his Episode 7.
Chezzymann
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People who are getting annoyed by all the star wars threads, i think
(Ironically they're making more threads lol)
Schweinehund
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If it sucks you'll be hearing about it non stop from Star Wars fans for the rest of your life. There's no winning there.
It'll make discussion about Man of Steel, Age of Ultron & TDKR look trivial.
It'll make discussion about Man of Steel, Age of Ultron & TDKR look trivial.
Future PhaZe
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i'd be very sad of course
very sad, because it all looks so flawless so far
very sad, because it all looks so flawless so far
SchrodingerC
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The world will probably implode from the mass disappointment of star wars fans.
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