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What is the appeal of anime?

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For me it was the incredible animation and use of color you saw in 80's and early 90's OAVs and films. I also really liked the character designs from that era. Also, the overall sense of weirdness you found in a lot of films like Akira, The Twilight of the Cockroaches, Vampire Hunter D, Ghost in the Shell, and many others. It was very unique at the time, especially compared to the more formulaic US cartoons I was used to seeing.

I don't feel that way about anime anymore, though.

Exactly. I grew up loving illustration, and sc-fi / fantasy. Loved animation and enjoyed more challenging animated films like Lord of the Rings and Fire and Ice. Found that Japan made series and movies with similar themes.

Somewhere in the early 2000s Japan stopped making series based on conventional genre themes and I stopped watching all together.
 
It's a medium with entertaining content.
It tends to have the kind of instrumental background music I like.
There's lots of new stuff coming out, high production rate.
There is a wide backlog of classics still undiscovered for me.
There are series with genuinely beautiful background art.
It's fun to discuss because of the ridiculous plot developments sometimes.
It has a lot of lighthearted series.
And the girls are cute.
 
Because it's totally insane and can be cool and ridiculous at the same time. I miss anime from the 80s/90s when it was all hand-drawn and you could see the pencil lines and stuff, much more interesting then todays Flash Animation looking crap they show on TV.

I tried to watch a lot of more recent shows from the past 7 years and I found them boring and stuff.
 
That's not where I'd start. Skip that, Gundamn Wing, Naruto, and Bleach. <- Not a good defense for anime.

I'd choose Cowboy Beebop, Tenchi Muyo, or something mentioned above.

FLCL is terrible anime for beginners. It is a HUGE helping of weird, anime references you won't get, and a story buried so deep you probably won't get it without a guide.
Lol beginners. I remember as a kid when Toonami was on. I use to hate it because I had nothing to watch for the hour(s) is was on. I can't get into the art style. I find it all the same with weird hairstyles. Many friends tell me it's not true which they're probably right but I much prefer american cartoons. The only anime I ever watched was Pokemon as a kid. Mainly because I loved the games and cards. Haven't watched it in years, though.
 
It's just an entertainment medium. This is like asking "what's the appeal of novels?"
 
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Oh man. this is a good response.
 
In addition to all those shows about high schools and moe, there are dramas about boxers and baseball players. Bizarre psychological thrillers. Supernatural detectives. Slice of life like the currently trending comic Silver Spoon, which is getting an anime adaption (city student goes to agricultural school, experiences culture shock and rethinks life).

People go where the content is. You can find certain kinds of storytelling in anime that you can't quite replicate anywhere else. The fact that it's animated leads to flexibility that's difficult with live action due to practical matters like actor contracts and being able to afford sufficient cast members for certain scenarios. In the west animation is still seen for the most part as children's cartoons and low-budget animated comedies for prime time on Fox. As we've unfortunately seen, outside of The Last Airbender franchise, dramatic and action-adventure animation has a lot of trouble gaining traction in North America - fallen flags like Young Justice, Tron Uprising, and even shows like Motorcity and more cartoony Green Lantern: The Animated Series.

As an example people are going crazy for Game of Thrones right now because, in part, it's still uncommon to see fearless and ruthless storytelling in live action TV series - especially stories that require a cast of dozens and where anyone can die without warning.

That sort of thing is much more common in dramatic animation leading to interesting and unpredictable storytelling.

The thing that does hold a lot of western viewers back from anime I would say, is the harsh transition to another culture's standards for dialog, timing, comedy, and mannerisms. Even in purely dramatic shows and films, these things can still throw a lot of people at first.
 
Japan makes a ton of animation but I think "anime" can be considered a genre depending on the context. "Anime" technically reffers to "animation from Japan" but I don't think people think of the experimental animation films of someone like Kihachiro Kawamoto as anime even though it is technically animation from Japan, so colloquially, anime can be a genre simply because we understand the term to be referring to a specific type of Japanese animation.

If we can agree on that, then maybe there is something to be said about the appeal of the genre, no?
 
I know this may seem like I am being sarcastic but a big part of the appeal of anime is that it has a level of sophistication and maturity that western animation by and large can not and will not match.
 
Exactly. I grew up loving illustration, and sc-fi / fantasy. Loved animation and enjoyed more challenging animated films like Lord of the Rings and Fire and Ice. Found that Japan made series and movies with similar themes.

Somewhere in the early 2000s Japan stopped making series based on conventional genre themes and I stopped watching all together.

Yeah, that's about the cutoff for me as well. I still dig the classics, tho.

Just watched The Dagger of Kamui again the other day. Amazing stuff.
 
I don't understand it either. I can't get into it. My friend made me watch Fooly Cooly since it's considered one of the greatest anime's ever or something. I didn't get it. I never really cared for anime and I still don't. I have nothing against it, though. Just not for me.

what do you mean not for you? can't you watch tv series either? There are shows that are basically the same but animated. Is it the fact that it is animated that you don't like?edit:
Lol beginners. I remember as a kid when Toonami was on. I use to hate it because I had nothing to watch for the hour(s) is was on. I can't get into the art style. I find it all the same with weird hairstyles. Many friends tell me it's not true which they're probably right but I much prefer american cartoons. The only anime I ever watched was Pokemon as a kid. Mainly because I loved the games and cards. Haven't watched it in years, though.
Art style? There are plenty of anime with well proportioned features.

In any case many anime simply exaggerate the features that make humans attractive, such as neoteny, so the characters tend to be even more attractive than most any human.
 
A genuine question here for those who watch it. Not trying to start anything.


Edited because of my own ignorance. Sorry, a personal problem.

My gateway vector was science fiction. I grew up on 80's cartoons, which were mostly farmed out to Japan, or of Japanese origin, and it has always been possible to do things visually with animation that wouldn't really fly with live action, and American animation wasn't doing any of those things (and still isn't).

I was introduced to anime via prince planet, robotech, teknoman, and sci-fi channel's saturday anime block among others. When I became aware of what it was and how to get more, I dabbled in other genres, but sci-fi is what I always go back to. I can usually find something that interests me even if it's wrapped in the confines of a children's show.
 
A genuine question here for those who watch it. Not trying to start anything.


Edited because of my own ignorance. Sorry, a personal problem.

To me it's like any other medium, say live action movies and shows. Couple of things I enjoy about anime. The art, when it's good, it's impressive. The fact that people drew it with their hands or computer whatever, they made it and that is awesome. I can't draw worth shit so. I also like that things can be very impressive, for example action scenes. Some anime have action scenes that wouldn't be possible to make live action without looking stupid or out of place. They can go balls out with the action and choreography, something they wouldn't be able to do otherwise. And obviously, the story that is told.

There's a lot of shit out there, most of it is shit. But when you find the good stuff, it's so good.
 
what do you mean not for you? can't you watch tv series either? There are shows that are basically the same but animated. Is it the fact that it is animated that you don't like?
The art/animation style, the themes I guess. Just not for me. I prefer american cartoons to be honest. GOOD american cartoons. Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Pink Panther, 90s nicktoons, The Simpsons, SWAT Kats, etc. Like I stated in my previous post the only anime I ever watched regularly was Pokemon. I was a kid and loved the cards and games so I guess that was the reason for that. I have nothing against anime I just can't get into it.
 
The art/animation style, the themes I guess. Just not for me. I prefer american cartoons to be honest. GOOD american cartoons. Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Pink Panther, 90s nicktoons, The Simpsons, SWAT Kats, etc. Like I stated in my previous post the only anime I ever watched regularly was Pokemon. I was a kid and loved the cards and games so I guess that was the reason for that. I have nothing against anime I just can't get into it.

The art styles in Japanese cartoons are easily as diverse as the art styles in the American cartoons you just listed. Unless you think rugrats, the simpsons, and bugs bunny alllooksame.
 
It's a medium. Theoretically the same question can be asked about western animated shows. You can make the same generalizations that popular American animation has it's own eccentricities as well (vulgarity, shock value for the sake of shock value).

Now people who are obsessed with the medium and watch nothing but anime weird me out for some reason, mostly because anecdotally people I knew like this in high school/college were mostly socially inept which makes me believe they saw the shows as some weird escape.

Objectively, i enjoyed some shows like Evangelion, Trigun, DBZ, Cowboy Bebop. Watched some other stuff too, it's hit and miss.
 
Yeah I'm probably wrong. I don't watch anime to even really know.

Just look at what film genres appeal to you and then give some things a shot based on that if you're interested in trying something.

Don't let someone convince you to watch some drama about high school girls if you don't have any interest in dramas about high school girls. It's natural that something like that would sway you negatively. It's also possible you're just watching a bad cartoon.
 
I love the art style personally (with the moe art style being my favorite, fuck off haters), it's my favorite art style cuz it's so cute, and I also like the whimsical stories , and it also helps me learn Japanese, but nowadays I prefer Jdramas than anime.
 
It's the only hand drawn animation left. Western cartoons have mostly been dead to me and there's only a few flash cartoons I like.
 
I've always loved animation. I was a big fan of Disney, Warner Bros., you name it. So when I was a teenager and was introduced to stuff like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, I had found my Animation 2.0.

While the really REALLY good stuff has somewhat depreciated over the years, I've also had a love of cute aesthetics, which anime still has down to a fucking science.
 
I'm not trying to start anything? lol yes you are

Edit: Check out Monster, Berserk, or Attack on Titan for some anime that doesn't fit the stereotypes you might associate with anime. There's a lot more out there than squeaky moeblobs.
3 excellent suggestions. One piece is good. As is Hunter x hunter.

Edit: full metal alchemist brotherhood, yu yu hakusho, cowboy bebop, etc.
 
The appal to me is it allows directors, producers, etc a chance to make a film/TV show that wouldn't be film-able in live action, due to cast or cost concerns.

Art can look like whatever the designers want it to look like, which again, is something you can't do with live action.

You can also do subject matter that would cause riots if you did it with real actors. Imagine Elfin lead, or now and then here and there with live people.
 
Good stories for me. Of course, most are crap, but so are most books/movies/tv shows. I just follow good stories and some are in anime format.

There are also other advantages though. Anime series often feel like they have more purpose than live tv shows since they are aimed at finite ammount of episodes.

Also..it's propably the best medium for genre shows. Even Game of Thrones look cheap sometimes, in anime even niche shows can display whatever they want because it's just drawings, which allows for stuff that's simply not possible in live-action.
 
Yo, Space Brothers is the best current thing you could watch to dispel any preconceived notions about anime. It's one of those shining gems that remind me how good high the medium can soar. But then I remember stuff like Oreimo and Evangelion 3.0 and I fall back to Earth. So, I suppose anime is susceptible to highs and pandering lows like any other medium.
 
I don't know this anime. I would like to know this anime. I feel this anime and I could be real friends. What is this anime?
Berserk. Read it or watch it, you will not be dissapointed. My avatar comes from one of the characters of Berserk.

I think the first 25 episode of the original anime are on youtube. The first 25 episodes covers manga volumes 1-13, which are incredible.
 
Hyouka disproves the idea that slice of life=cliche/moe/fan service/pandering/everything bad about anime/etc. Watch Hyouka.
 
Yo, Space Brothers is the best current thing you could watch to dispel any preconceived notions about anime. It's one of those shining gems that remind me how good high the medium can soar. But then I remember stuff like Oreimo and Evangelion 3.0 and I fall back to Earth. So, I suppose anime is susceptible to highs and pandering lows like any other medium.

There are a lot of gems that flew under the radar. Take Asura Cryin and Dennou Coil for example. Great shows, but more or less unknown outside of certain circles.
 
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For me it was the incredible animation and use of color you saw in 80's and early 90's OAVs and films. I also really liked the character designs from that era. Also, the overall sense of weirdness you found in a lot of films like Akira, The Twilight of the Cockroaches, Vampire Hunter D, Ghost in the Shell, and many others. It was very unique at the time, especially compared to the more formulaic US cartoons I was used to seeing.

I don't feel that way about anime anymore, though.


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In addition to all those shows about high schools and moe, there are dramas about boxers and baseball players. Bizarre psychological thrillers. Supernatural detectives. Slice of life like the currently trending comic Silver Spoon, which is getting an anime adaption (city student goes to agricultural school, experiences culture shock and rethinks life).

People go where the content is. You can find certain kinds of storytelling in anime that you can't quite replicate anywhere else. The fact that it's animated leads to flexibility that's difficult with live action due to practical matters like actor contracts and being able to afford sufficient cast members for certain scenarios. In the west animation is still seen for the most part as children's cartoons and low-budget animated comedies for prime time on Fox. As we've unfortunately seen, outside of The Last Airbender franchise, dramatic and action-adventure animation has a lot of trouble gaining traction in North America - fallen flags like Young Justice, Tron Uprising, and even shows like Motorcity and more cartoony Green Lantern: The Animated Series.

As an example people are going crazy for Game of Thrones right now because, in part, it's still uncommon to see fearless and ruthless storytelling in live action TV series - especially stories that require a cast of dozens and where anyone can die without warning.

That sort of thing is much more common in dramatic animation leading to interesting and unpredictable storytelling.

The thing that does hold a lot of western viewers back from anime I would say, is the harsh transition to another culture's standards for dialog, timing, comedy, and mannerisms. Even in purely dramatic shows and films, these things can still throw a lot of people at first.


Are both great answers I agree with.
 
what about new american cartoons like Avatar the last airbender(or Avatar: Legend of Korra), thundercats, he-man, young justice, etc?
I don't watch any of those either. Some of my favorites are:

Looney Tunes
Tom & Jerry
Pink Panther
SWAT Kats
Ed Edd n Eddy
The Simpsons
South Park
90s Nicktoons
Regular Show
Futurama
Family Guy

I gave up on Nick and CN years ago but Regular Show may be the newest cartoon I watch. I've concluded years ago that TV just sucks now. I barely watch anything new because I'm just not interested. I miss the 90s.
 
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