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What is the deeeeaaal with these CSI shows?

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Odrion said:
That's kind of sad/indicative of the terrible current state of your opinion.

Castle owns, Nathan Fillion owns.

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I like Castle in spite of the fact its a police procedural. In fact, I usually fast forward through the police shit. I would have much preferred a show about Nathan Fillion being awesome in NYC, but then it would never have been picked up. Stupid Hollywood.
 
BattleMonkey said:
It's difficult, but what they do for grand jury is that unlike a regular jury, it has set days in the week that it operates. For us it was Wed and Thursdays. Also since we worked for the state attorney basically we had lot of protection from losing our jobs since you can't be fired or such because of jury duty. One jury member for example was getting harassed for missing so many days but the State attorney as well as a judge set the employer straight on the matter.

We were paid $15 a day, nothing more, though we got free parking at the courthouse :lol

For me it was not an issue since the family owns our own company so we can do what we want. During the jury selection process though many many people used work as an excuse out of jury duty. Basically you can't use work as an excuse out, but people basically up front told the judge and attorneys at selection that having to serve would "influence" them negatively during their duty. Those who didn't get off and had to stay on for the duration had lot of negativity towards it though of course.

Grand jury though can be different from state to state, the laws and roles change all the time. We had one sexual battery case brought to us which is unusual, but they had to do it because it was a case that happened back in the 70's and at the time of crime the grand jury took on such cases.

wait wait wait. so the US government can basically, at will, pull any given person out of their jobs, force them trade 2/5 of their earnings for 7 months to 15 bucks a day? And maybe get even fired because of not doing their job? That's insane in so many ways. First of all, any normal household economy would collapse. Secondly, this basically would ensure that anyone not totally pissed off would be homeless / unemployed / insane.
 
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He really stands funny. He has a bit of a duck-like waddle when he walks, too.
 
DMczaf said:
The least they could do was have 1 serial killer over the course of a season, or half a season.

Instead, they have a new one every episode which they always catch :lol

They had a show like that, it was called Profiler. And it sucked. And of course they catch them, what a fucking let down would it be if they didn't?
 
ConfusingJazz said:
I like Castle in spite of the fact its a police procedural. In fact, I usually fast forward through the police shit. I would have much preferred a show about Nathan Fillion being awesome in NYC, but then it would never have been picked up. Stupid Hollywood.
Yeah it's police procedural, but I figured "Hell I don't watch those shows anyways" so it's formula isn't too worn thin for me. I just love the writing and the characters.
 
CSI and police procedurals in general are the McDonalds of TV shows. I feel dirty for watching Castle sometimes (not comparing with the absolute turd that is the CSI franchise but still a little embarassing sometimes). Damn you Fillion.
 
DMczaf said:
I'm watching CSI NY, and I'm wondering why do the lab techs also at like detectives, then like SWAT team members, and then like beat cops? Why do the lab techs always do the interrogations? This shit makes no sense.

The episode I'm watching now, one of the lab techs played bait for a murderer by pretending she was the woman that he was trying to kill. Right before he steps behind her with a knife, she turns around with a gun and reveals its a setup and SWAT guys run in. What the fuck is she doing there? Wouldn't this get people fired?

Well to be fair, the original CSI wasn't like that. None of them carried weapons, they were always working with detectives, and interogations wasn't handled just by them. They would only come in with the evidence. NY and Miami just kinda made them everything. Also the tech involved was all realistic back then and what I liked about the original, besides actually having good and likeable characters, was that there were twists to the end results where sometimes it was just an accident even though it looked like murder. I liked how that twist was there that you didn't know who it would really be.

Vegas >>>>>>>>>>>>>NY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miami
 
I used to like Law and order CI -ALOT. But when they brought in wheeler and that other dude, I lost interest.
 
Tater Tot said:
I used to like Law and order CI -ALOT. But when they brought in wheeler and that other dude, I lost interest.
A barometer for how good an random episode of LOCI is by how fat the lead actor is. The fatter dinofrio got, the worse the show got. Then they brought in Goldblum and bam! the magic is back!
 
On the NCIS dvds they talk about how funny it is that Abby does the jobs of like 12 people. And the guy that plays Dinizzo is such a huge movie buff they added it to his character.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
The lab stuff is what drives my wife nuts. The speed at which they get results and the accuracy drives her up the wall. She works as a chemist and gets so annoyed with her bosses and whatnot that question what takes so long with procedures. Apparently her higher ups watched too much CSI and whatnot and expect results as accurate and speedy.

Yea we got this a lot with medical examiners we talked to during our time on the grand jury. Getting DNA analysis is not as simple as it's done on tv and it can often take weeks to process, not a few minutes like it does on CSI. Cases have to be presented to a grand jury often without DNA evidence because there is time limit for prosecution of an arrested individual. The evidence should be available for the actual trial, but it does take time.

Other things like finger printing was brought up alot, as on TV and CSI like shows especially finger prints are so easy to get and fast to evaluate, yet in reality getting finger prints is very difficult. Many factors can screw up prints including sweaty hands, greasy fingers, rubbing of fingers on a murder weapon while committing a crime, shape of object.... it's very difficult to get a proper finger print that can be considered evidence.

Chittagong said:
wait wait wait. so the US government can basically, at will, pull any given person out of their jobs, force them trade 2/5 of their earnings for 7 months to 15 bucks a day? And maybe get even fired because of not doing their job? That's insane in so many ways. First of all, any normal household economy would collapse. Secondly, this basically would ensure that anyone not totally pissed off would be homeless / unemployed / insane.

Jury duty is supposed to be part of a being an American, it's your "duty". It is pretty shitty situation and for some I don't see how they can handle it. Majority of people who do jury duty though are only for a single day of service and then you are exempt up to a year.

If you have issues that can cause problems with your jury duty you can contact them before your appointed date and they will excuse you usually if you have a good enough excuse. For example students can pretty much always get off due to having classes. You can and probably will be called at a later date to attend.

When you get selected you usually just have to hope it's a one day thing and that you don't get placed in a trial jury which is for some really long and elaborate case that can take weeks. Grand Jury duty is the worse you can possible get since it means you have to set aside several days each week for months.
 
What gets me most about CSI is I immediately know that it is one without seeing the screen or having any stars appear, the dialogue has this horrible sticky wrongness that is unmistakable.
 
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