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What is the greatest single Star Trek work?
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Firestreak
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Tapestry.
Nuff said.
Nuff said.
I need to defer to trekkies with more knowledge than me to identify the episode, but the Voyager episode that begins with Tuvok saying "Captain, we've encountered a strange phenomenon, enomenom, enonenom, enom, enom...". That's a great voyager episode. Voyager as a whole is my favourite series by far.
There's a book in which Spock and McCoy discuss wether the immortal soul survives teleportation and thus do you actually die whenever you use it. It also had a derelict ship in it. That was a good book.
I rate Star Trek the Motion Picture as the best movie. It and the episode of ToS it's based on (Nomad?) are great.
Enterprise was waaaaaaaaa.......ay too focused on time travel. I just wanted more of the same old trek, and I think that's where they killed Trek. They tried to be to original and innovative where I think most fans just wanted more of the same. I know I did/do. That said, toward the end of Enterprise they did begin to redeem themselves, before the botched finale. It was just too late I guess.
There's a book in which Spock and McCoy discuss wether the immortal soul survives teleportation and thus do you actually die whenever you use it. It also had a derelict ship in it. That was a good book.
I rate Star Trek the Motion Picture as the best movie. It and the episode of ToS it's based on (Nomad?) are great.
Enterprise was waaaaaaaaa.......ay too focused on time travel. I just wanted more of the same old trek, and I think that's where they killed Trek. They tried to be to original and innovative where I think most fans just wanted more of the same. I know I did/do. That said, toward the end of Enterprise they did begin to redeem themselves, before the botched finale. It was just too late I guess.
JoshuaJSlone
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I agree, and I'm usually a time travel nut. It felt like they didn't want to be limited to what should fit in "known Trek pre-history", so they gave themselves an out by allowing people from far beyond even TNG/DS9/VOY era to be major background players.Woakes said:
Escape Goat
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Woakes said:
you must be thinking of the Voyager Rap episode they did where Tuvok and Janeway travel back to the late 1980s and have to bust rhymes with some jive turkeys.
Joe Molotov
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DrForester said:
Sub Rosa was the goofiest, most unintentionally hilarious episode of TNG. I mean, WTF, it's like suddenly TNG became a bad Harlequin Romance TV movie or something. They were definitely running low on ideas at that point.
HyperZone<3
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The Changeling
as only a medium-core Trek fan, I do appreciate all these really good suggestions you guys are throwing out, thanks very much. I wish to nominate my favorite TOS ep. I caught it recently on TV Land and it still is about as scary as it was to me when I first saw it as a wee tyke (back when other kids were into Knight Rider, I dug Star Trek).
Nomad is just a plain awesome villian, and the whole episode is just packed to the gills with the hard sci-fi that TOS series did so well. Also Kirk just about shits himself with fear. Great episode man.
as only a medium-core Trek fan, I do appreciate all these really good suggestions you guys are throwing out, thanks very much. I wish to nominate my favorite TOS ep. I caught it recently on TV Land and it still is about as scary as it was to me when I first saw it as a wee tyke (back when other kids were into Knight Rider, I dug Star Trek).
Nomad is just a plain awesome villian, and the whole episode is just packed to the gills with the hard sci-fi that TOS series did so well. Also Kirk just about shits himself with fear. Great episode man.
BigJonsson
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"There are 4 lights"
"Its a FAAAAAAKE"
"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN"
"I am locutus of borg"
"Double dumb ass on you"
Those are the ones I can remember that I think are the best
"Its a FAAAAAAKE"
"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN"
"I am locutus of borg"
"Double dumb ass on you"
Those are the ones I can remember that I think are the best
Gary Whitta
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There was actually one really good episode of Enterprise, it was the one where the Xindi had actually succeeded in destroying Earth and Archer's Enterprise wound up leading a kind of Galactica-style rag-tag fleet of the remaining human starships out into space to find a new home, while still being hunted by the Xindi.
Of course it all turned out to be a fucking dream or something and they hit the reset button at the end. But then, how could they not? That was the whole problem with a prequel series to begin with.
Of course it all turned out to be a fucking dream or something and they hit the reset button at the end. But then, how could they not? That was the whole problem with a prequel series to begin with.
CeruleanSilver
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One TNG episode that I really love that hasn't been mentioned is Lower Decks. Great episode all around and having a different perspective on the usuals was fun.
JoshuaJSlone
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It was "real", but due to the... anti-time properties of the thing messing with Archer's brain, fixing it in the present fixed it in the past.Gary Whitta said:
Gary Whitta
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lol anti-time
FnordChan said:While perhaps not the absolute best Trek, if only because they rely heavily on familiarity with the series and wouldn't be nearly as good out of context, I've got to pimp two terrific Trek novels, both by the late John M. Ford: The Final Reflection and How Much For Just The Planet?
The Final Reflection - Charting an unusual Klingon's rise to prominence and his role in normalizing relations between the Klingon Empire and the Federation. This novel is notable for essentially creating a serious Klingon culture out of whole cloth, as previously they'd been relegated to a fairly two-dimensional villain role. While no one's admitting anything, it seems very likely that the Klingons we see on Next Generation were directly inspired by Ford's novel, though they're watered down and not nearly as cool. And, influence aside, this is a fine novel, exploring an alien culture and providing plenty of political machinations to chew on.
The Wrath of Fnord
this book is ridiculously good.
i'm reading it before bed and i'm staying up far too late just tearing into it as much as i can before i pass out
it's not just a good trek book, it's a good science fiction book. period.
there are some elements which bother me, but i'm not really that bothered by them. there's a seemingly editorial mandated framing story that tosses in kirk, spock and bones, and some minor annoyances with how it sinks you into an alien culture with few points of relativity for our own societies.
but seriously, i picked it up off amazon for $5 and it's money well spent
I've also since queued up TOS in netflix. The show is a lot better than I recall, so i'm glad this thread inspired me to re-examine trek.
Spainkiller
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Argh! It's £20 on Amazon.co.uk 
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Is it worth $40?
JetSetHero said:Argh! It's £20 on Amazon.co.uk
The Final Reflection? Looks like you can get it cheaper than that without difficulty.
FnordChan
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Cool! Cheers. I must be missing something with using Amazon :s
JetSetHero said:
There's always AbeBooks. Pick up a copy of How Much For Just The Planet? while you're at it. Enjoy!
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