teruterubozu
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I doubt it. All it takes is more Pop-GAF diva albums to keep it going.
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What is this "EDM" phase the USA is going through?
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I doubt it. All it takes is more Pop-GAF diva albums to keep it going.
EDM festivals are a big thing these days (and why not, they're pretty fun). Not really something unique to the US (see Tomorrowland).
Heh, Wake me up was a staple of the top 10 for ages and it's not that old. Then you have Timber, Dark Horse coming up... Not nearly as popular but Burn by Ellie Goulding seems to be climbing up too. Dance pop is not going away anytime soon.
Heh, Wake me up was a staple of the top 10 for ages and it's not that old. Then you have Timber, Dark Horse coming up... Not nearly as popular but Burn by Ellie Goulding seems to be climbing up too. Dance pop is not going away anytime soon.
I wouldn't consider Dark Horse EDM, and Burn has already peaked.
I hope Dance Pop doesn't go anywhere, but I think we're climbing out of the dancebrack-chorus, Guetta-infused, wub-wub-wub type of EDM Pop.
teruterubozu
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The wub is definitely a phase. But the dance break chorus goes back to disco.
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I just noticed this in the last little while, but why are people calling it EDM now? Is it because people are now making a bigger distinction between "dance music" and "electronic dance music?"
When I see it I misread it as IDM and start thinking people are talking about u-ziq or Aphex Twin or something.
When I see it I misread it as IDM and start thinking people are talking about u-ziq or Aphex Twin or something.
Dark Horse is not pure EDM pop but it's still heavily influenced by it. And you're right about Burn, didn't check Billboard and I thought it was still climbing (Ellie remains a one hit wonder in the US...)
Maybe, I hope so. I can't stand Guetta anymore. A bit a variety won't hurt (go Nu-Jazz!)
killertofu
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It's everywhere now. Especially with college kids. Frat bros with neon tanks, raging to Skrillex and 'Levels'
Bitches love 'Levels'
Bitches love 'Levels'
freenudemacusers
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it's only a good thing. even if you hate the mainstream stuff like avicii it's at least an avenue for people who might have only heard 'smack my bitch up' to find new music.
thoseAREmySHOES
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It's an accessible genre. Side note, I'm going to see Krewella tomorrow!
eBay Huckster
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I'm going to see them on Tuesday.
(For several hours, in the middle of Cleveland, while drunk off my ass.)
umop_3pisdn
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I'd take pretense over cheese any day, though the two in combination would be far worse.
Like "Complextro"!
freenudemacusers
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I feel like its just popular enough imo
John Kowalski
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Well Daft Punk just had a super popular hit single and a rather successful album. French House has always been rather popular tbh.
This is some dumb American marketing term. If you want some lols go look at the first few pages of the EDM thread.
DiscoJer
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No, "Electronica" was the dumb American marketing term. Electronic Dance Music has been used at least since the '90s by DJs and producers who didn't want to be pigeonholed into one specific genre like just trance or house or techno.
EBM is different than EDM, it's electronic body music. Basically a dancier version of industrial. Front 242 most notably.
BakedPigeon
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been going to edm shows an festivals here in the U.S. for over a decade and still enjoy them the same, even though they have gotten more popular in recent years. I still have fun no matter what so its all the same to me.
Beyonce and Rihanna's recent releases are urban.
Katy's is full of disco tracks and ballads.
All three of those sold fairly well.
The only two big pop girls that attempted electronic music again both flopped commercially (Britney Jean, Artpop).
Yes. I'm so glad the mainstream has diverted its focus from hip-hop. No one says "bling" anymore or wears tracksuits and huge chains.
makingmusic476
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The music or the label?
I love the music. Though I've always preferred to call it futurepop.
Edit: Seems futurepop is a derivative of EBM. All these subgenres confuse the shit out of me.
There seems to be a difference between electronic dance music as you describe it (and how I would naturally interpret it) and Electronic Dance Music the genre, which seems to be something distinctive in itself, normally characterised by maximalism and masculinity. As I said, look at the first few pages of the EDM thread, there's obviously confusion.
Been listening to EDM since high school. It's more popular now and has been popular in the US since Justice's first album. The only difference now is filtering through a bunch of stuff. Back in the late 90's early 00's I would just take what I could get, other than having Paul Oakenfold shoved down my throat.
DanteFox
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She probably is no worse than your average DJ you'll find at the local club, because she likely doesn't actually have anything to do with the music being played.
If you mean the drug use itself, that's been going on for far longer than the recent boom in EDM. If you mean the phrase ("Popped a molly, I'm sweatin' WOO"), it actually originated in a hip hop song. Drug use is hardly limited to festivals/concerts/clubs of a specific genre of music.
"Dance music" would also include hip hop, pop, rock, hell anything you can dance to. It's just a term of convenience, and I don't get why there's such confusion over it. It's electronic music that is made with the intention of being played so people can dance to it.
I think the biggest fault with the term is that it's generally used to refer to big-room, festival-type music, and the rest of the scene/genre/whatever just instantaneously rejects the term because of that - even though their music would fall under that label, if you're going by the strict definition of the words.
It's only a good thing. More exposure = more people making music = more good music. You'll get more bad music too, but the wonderful thing about the internet is that you can choose what you expose yourself to. Hip hop is the best it's been since the 90s because of this (largely driven by the internet).
Some people just can't stand that their secret club is going mainstream, but most of it is just that people are scared that the exposure will "taint" the music, but if - out of all the new people being exposed to it (who go on to make their own music) - they can't find a single person/producer/artist/whatever that they like, they're probably not looking hard enough.
I agree with this sentiment. It did baffle me a little seeing people I went to school with hyping some of the music I listen to when in school the same music was just referred to as techno. I actually think edm in the mainstream may be on the decline. It is a phase in the mainstream, but it will exist after the phase just as it did before it gained popularity. I dont think it will leave the mainstream entirely though.
I do agree exposure can be great, but it does change trends and kill genres as well. Unless this track pumps life into "breakbeat hardcore" (no good name for it, what you hear there, but with cheaper samples and M1 piano) it will still be dead which it has been since the mid 90s.
Genres getting broader also makes it much harder to find what you want. I had no idea I liked trance a few years ago because I liked "that" trance and not "that" trance.
when i go to shows i just stand there and nod my head
unless we get a revival of italodisco with poorly written lyrics i dont care
It's part of the deal. Artists themselves grow and evolve, much like sounds and genres do. Trying to fight that seems pointless to me. I understand not wanting artists to change their sound if you like what they're doing, but even if they keep the exact same sound for 30 years, they'll retire eventually.
phosphor112
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The EDM that the US is currently falling head over heels is nothing more than garbage.
Fuck the haters, but I've been listening to DnB and trance since the 90's. None of that bastardized dubstep.
Fuck the haters, but I've been listening to DnB and trance since the 90's. None of that bastardized dubstep.
metalmania4evr
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Went to TomorrowWorld this year, had an amazing time. Q-fucking-Dance. I can't wait for next year.
Dubstep isn't even the problem. I dislike the term EDM to begin with because it's so broad that it has no meaning to me. The biggest offender for me is that, and this applies to generally mainstream aimed songs than anything else, is that they are all centered around a build up to a drop. It's incredibly irritating to constantly hear because they all follow the same formula for it.
Tiesto could make it work years ago
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-5mGwyhruo&noredirect=1
The buildup doesn't take center stage and the song doesn't exist only for that moment. Great track all around.
homeworkfilms
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Tomorrowland is now owned by a US company that is traded on the NASDAQ exchange. EDM is big business in the USA and has been for some time. SFX Entertainment is the name. The guy who started it has owned the rights to Elvis Presley, American Idol, and what became Live Nation.
Madeon 2 guud. Mozart of da electronixx. He's kind of cute too, i'd totally holla at Adele Exarchopoulos's ass if i was him.
IrishNinja
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it's been a thing
seriously, particularly with R&B i feel it's nearly overdue at this point - shouldn't we be cycling back to some male/female groups/harmonizing/etc shit by now? having people actually sing would bring the added bonus of minimizing rihanna/etc which'd be a win/win
seriously, particularly with R&B i feel it's nearly overdue at this point - shouldn't we be cycling back to some male/female groups/harmonizing/etc shit by now? having people actually sing would bring the added bonus of minimizing rihanna/etc which'd be a win/win
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