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currently have GTX 680 4GB in SLI going to wait until probably late 2015 to upgrade to whatever top of the line by then. (GTX 980?)
currently have a asus 7870 2GB ghz
hoping lt lasts me the whole gen lol.
I have the same setup. I bought a second 5850 on the cheap for BF3, and it worked out great. I might just leave the machine as is, because I'd rather get an X51 style form factor for my next build. I'll start looking at a new machine whenever Titan performance reaches the $250 price point.Currently running 2x 5850s.
I think it's silly to upgrade before we get some sort of idea on how games built for the new consoles run on various hardware specs, so I'll be looking at things that come out next summer/fall and seeing how they run on my system, with an obvious eye towards how they run on various PC graphics cards.
It's tricky to predict exactly where the bottlenecks will be with a console transition.
Ten years ago this would've instantly killed any serious desire to upgrade sooner than later, but nowadays I get the impression the i5 2500k STILL isn't really holding anything back. Maybe I just need to dig up newer benchmarks, but it sounds like Intel's decided to focus on making their CPUs more laptop/mobile friendly in power consumption rather than making much more powerful CPUs, and in that case so long as we don't have a change in card slots or anything weird cropping up I think a i5 computer from 2011 really CAN more than keep up just with a new video card.I'm also pretty damn concerned how long my CPU is going to hold out before it's severely bottlenecking my GPU. It would be fucking dumb to stick a 2015 GTX 900 series card in an i5 from 2011 and not be able to get the best grunt out of the GPU. I'm pretty sure my GTX 670 isn't being bottlenecked, but 2015 series cards is a different matter.
i5-2500k is still one of the best processors in existence for gaming. Phenomenal overclocking capabilities and a very solid four-core architecture makes for a great gaming CPU. As you mentioned, with a lack of competition from AMD when it comes to power, they've been focusing elsewhere. It's frustrating, but Sandy/Ivy Bridge are still excellent and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find them causing a real bottleneck.Ten years ago this would've instantly killed any serious desire to upgrade sooner than later, but nowadays I get the impression the i5 2500k STILL isn't really holding anything back. Maybe I just need to dig up newer benchmarks, but it sounds like Intel's decided to focus on making their CPUs more laptop/mobile friendly in power consumption rather than making much more powerful CPUs, and in that case so long as we don't have a change in card slots or anything weird cropping up I think a i5 computer from 2011 really CAN more than keep up just with a new video card.
EDIT: Just going by Tom's Hardware it looks like my suspicions are confirmed: i5 2500k still sits there in that top bracket, unwavering. At this point I think I'd worry about replacing the CPU more in case it dies than because it's obsolete tech, which would normally be a silly concern but right now it really does look like it's going to be taking that long for upgrades to be worthwhile.
If you had a 4GB variant you would stand a chance... at least for the first couple of years.
Ten years ago this would've instantly killed any serious desire to upgrade sooner than later, but nowadays I get the impression the i5 2500k STILL isn't really holding anything back. Maybe I just need to dig up newer benchmarks, but it sounds like Intel's decided to focus on making their CPUs more laptop/mobile friendly in power consumption rather than making much more powerful CPUs, and in that case so long as we don't have a change in card slots or anything weird cropping up I think a i5 computer from 2011 really CAN more than keep up just with a new video card.
EDIT: Just going by Tom's Hardware it looks like my suspicions are confirmed: i5 2500k still sits there in that top bracket, unwavering. At this point I think I'd worry about replacing the CPU more in case it dies than because it's obsolete tech, which would normally be a silly concern but right now it really does look like it's going to be taking that long for upgrades to be worthwhile.
i5-2500k is still one of the best processors in existence for gaming. Phenomenal overclocking capabilities and a very solid four-core architecture makes for a great gaming CPU. As you mentioned, with a lack of competition from AMD when it comes to power, they've been focusing elsewhere. It's frustrating, but Sandy/Ivy Bridge are still excellent and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find them causing a real bottleneck.
No way to know for sure until it's out. Best case scenario, there's no issues. Worst case scenario is about a 5% drop in performance.Wondering if it would be better just to stick with my i5 2500k and Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard then spend the money I save on some other parts(such as a nice SSD). Is it worth upgrading to a newer CPU to gain PCIe 3.0 for the 880GTX GPU?
Bottlenecks don't really work like that. It's not an either/or thing, and is entirely dependent upon the engine and whether it's MP or SP. Translating game state between client and server in MP games is *very* CPU demanding, and you'll always have chugs and slowdows in MP that will get better with a better and higher clocked CPU.i5-2500k is still one of the best processors in existence for gaming. Phenomenal overclocking capabilities and a very solid four-core architecture makes for a great gaming CPU. As you mentioned, with a lack of competition from AMD when it comes to power, they've been focusing elsewhere. It's frustrating, but Sandy/Ivy Bridge are still excellent and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find them causing a real bottleneck.
LOLQuad 7970, I should be good for a while.
Quad 7970, I should be good for a while.
I wish I had bought another as a backup, to be honest. They're a lot harder to find now, and generally more expensive than their successors.Cheers, great posts. Gives me confidence my i5 will be worth keeping around for awhile.
Cheers, great posts. Gives me confidence my i5 will be worth keeping around for awhile.
I'm not sure what exactly you're saying here. Benchmarks say that OC'd 2500-series is still one of the fastest processors on the market when it comes to gaming. You're not going to get higher clocks on Ivy or Haswell, both of which use a shitty heatspreader in comparison to Sandy. There's a very small clock-for-clock performance advantage on Haswell against Ivy (and Ivy against Sandy), but not enough to justify any kind of upgrade.Bottlenecks don't really work like that. It's not an either/or thing, and is entirely dependent upon the engine and whether it's MP or SP. Translating game state between client and server in MP games is *very* CPU demanding, and you'll always have chugs and slowdows in MP that will get better with a better and higher clocked CPU.
He was talking about how bottlenecks work, not saying the 2500k isn't good. He explicitly says its still great and will continue to be great.I'm not sure what exactly you're saying here. Benchmarks say that OC'd 2500-series is still one of the fastest processors on the market when it comes to gaming. You're not going to get higher clocks on Ivy or Haswell, both of which use a shitty heatspreader in comparison to Sandy. There's a very small clock-for-clock performance advantage on Haswell against Ivy (and Ivy against Sandy), but not enough to justify any kind of upgrade.
Until Skylake in late 2014/early 2015, anyone with a Sandy or later should not upgrade. Depending on how much of an improvement it is, it still might not be worth it to upgrade. It's a weird situation for PC gamers, to be able to go so long not only without needing an upgrade, but being completely unable to justify it as well...
I'm pretty sure your 7870 could do 60fps at low settings with next-gen cross-platform games. You're greatly overestimating what these consoles can do. Greatly.My plan? Well, it depends on what motherboard I grab for my next CPU. (already have the CPU.)
If I get a motherboard with good Crossfire X capabilities, I drop in a second 7870 OC Edition and get by for another eighteen months or so. If it ends up being a single slot motherboard, I wait six to twelve months and try to buy a card with at least 1600 Shaders.
I tend to figure that people will need at least that many, to display cross platform titles at 60fps on at least low settings. That'd be a fantastic card for right now, but once the next round of consoles hits, it'll probably only be passable.
Even if you were at 1080p, the 760 would still be a fine card.I just upgraded from a GTX 460 1gb to a GTX 760 2gb.
I dont game at 1080P (monitor only supports 1680) so it doesnt matter.
Just a question as i see multiple people say they will buy a next gen GPU with six GB.
Titan aside . is there some basis to believe that the 800 series will have one or is this just wishful thinking by those people .?
Oh, I see. Not sure why he brought up bottlenecks, my mention was only in the general sense of the term.He was talking about how bottlenecks work, not saying the 2500k isn't good. He explicitly says its still great and will continue to be great.
Yup. Even if it doesn't happen with launch cards, there will be a 6GB card at some point.The 600 series (Kepler) had 4GB versions of the 660Ti and up. There will almost certainly be 6GB versions for Maxwell. It's not guaranteed, but it's 99% likely.
The 600 series (Kepler) had 4GB versions of the 660Ti and up. There will almost certainly be 6GB versions for Maxwell. It's not guaranteed, but it's 99% likely.
Yup. Even if it doesn't happen with launch cards, there will be a 6GB card at some point.
You said, "I think you'd be hard-pressed to find them causing a real bottleneck."I'm not sure what exactly you're saying here. Benchmarks say that OC'd 2500-series is still one of the fastest processors on the market when it comes to gaming. You're not going to get higher clocks on Ivy or Haswell, both of which use a shitty heatspreader in comparison to Sandy. There's a very small clock-for-clock performance advantage on Haswell against Ivy (and Ivy against Sandy), but not enough to justify any kind of upgrade.
Until Skylake in late 2014/early 2015, anyone with a Sandy or later should not upgrade. Depending on how much of an improvement it is, it still might not be worth it to upgrade. It's a weird situation for PC gamers, to be able to go so long not only without needing an upgrade, but being completely unable to justify it as well...
Those people are silly. Feel free to not care.Just a question as i see multiple people say they will buy a next gen GPU with six GB.
Titan aside . is there some basis to believe that the 800 series will have one or is this just wishful thinking by those people .?