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What it's like to live with clinical depression

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I had to explain that over the years I've become very good at acting normal and bottling up negative emotions. So good that not even my wife was able to tell. Although, she has told me that i do have certain habits that i do when my depression is coming back or getting worse, and she's been getting better at identifying them. And it's helpful since she can keep me from being completely overtaken by depression.

I have this issue too, even my therapist says its a bit common. That you can come across as too "high functioning" and people, even health care professionals won't recognize or offer the help you may need.

Well, more so i used to have this issue. I've got much worse over the last two years.
 
How long have you folks with major depression been experiencing it? Did it begin at a certain age?

Pretty sure I actually nabbed it in late 2008 (at 18) but it wasn't actually diagnosed until the end of 2014 (24), to think I was going to my doctor for a different reason entirely.
Fortunately I've managed to pull myself out of the deepest depths for the time being anyway, just have to try and keep my brain in check when it starts trying to use depression logic on me.
 
Wow, what a perfect depiction OP. I think the thing people have the hardest time understanding about people who are depressed is the level of exhaustion it really causes and how that compounds things. Life is hard when you're running on an empty tank all the time no matter what on top of the feeling of everything crumbling from underneath you.
 
Once you are at the deep end, it's a challenge to to even manage the most basic daily tasks. Adding more stuff to your day is just not realistic. It's not a matter of will.

Depression is not really an on-off kind of a thing. I've suffered from some form of depression half of my life, but some times are worse than others. When I notice I'm getting depressed but it's still mild, I choose to do things that make me feel better and avoid things that make it worse. A lot of it is forcing yourself to do stuff that's good for you even if you don't feel like it, like daily walks, seeing people, keeping the home tidy etc. and not falling for the "quick fixes" like alcohol. When it's really bad, you just need to prioritize daily tasks because there's no energy to do everything.

I went to deep end before. Pretty much have no energy to do anything. Just like what you say here. My solution is simply forced my self to get tired and try to go to sleep as much as I can. Even then I tend to have nightmare. Is like my mind not letting me to rest.

Still I keep trying to find way to escape from that hell. Even if something small like cooking or reading new book.
 
Hey man, first of all: Huge respect for putting yourself out there, telling strangers on the internet about this very intimate thing of yours. That alone is really powerful.

But second: You are hilarious. Had to legitimately laugh out loud once or twice, which made me feel pretty bad for a second there. It absolutely helps to frame this sickness in a more approachable way.
 
Well, I was diagnosed only with anxiety but at the time, I felt immense sadness eating me up inside.

I felt hopeless and detached from the real world.

Every second felt like I was about to die in a world which I didn't feel real (because I couldn't bear to believe that the things I felt were actually happening to me).

And if it wasn't the above, I felt nothing towards any event as if I was a mindless zombie.

Does that count as depression?
 
Reading the OP takes me back, i've been there. I was under a pretty severe reign of depression in my late teens/early twenties that at times i thought would never end.

It did though, thank fucking christ, and i'm mostly alright now *touch wood* and working in mental health. I'd highly recommend trying to get into CBT therapy for anyone going through it, and getting involved locally with mental health organisations.
 
The thing I hate about chronic depression is that people don't realize the work you have to put in. Disclaimer: My wife has it, not me.
She puts in the work. Doctor + Therapist + Meds. If the doctor is no good, change the doctor. Find a new one, set up an appointment. Answer the same dumb questions. If the therapist isn't good, change the therapist. And the meds change over time too, with tolerances and advances. It's this constantly changing mess that you do your best to keep ahead of only to hear people say that same tired ass rhetoric "Well if I could take a pill to make me happy, I would too!". If only it was just the pill. And only if it actually made you happy.

Glad to see people are talking about it more these days.
 
Great OP. Dealing with anxiety disorder instead of depression, but there's so much overlap. I recognize my brain in that OP on some days for sure.
 
This sounds dumb but my mental state depends on how distracted I am, it's why I lie awake at night whereas in the day I try to distract myself with games, movies whatever. Though of course I have days even weeks where I can't bring myself to even do that, those are the worst times
 
I'm seeing my first therapist on the 1st but there's a good chance that therapy might not work at all? Honestly what's the point in going on then?
 
Some day of the week I canÂ’t keep up:
Brain: you are a shitty person who is going to have a shitty life forever.
Also brain: your brain is lying to you, your depression is affecting your judgement.
Me: this is very confusing.
Brain: you just need to stop listening to me! I lie all the time!
Me: I really REALLY need a holiday.
Brain: thatÂ’s a bit much from someone who doesnÂ’t seem to get anything done in a whole week!

I've had this exact "conversation" with myself. Godammit
 
I'm seeing my first therapist on the 1st but there's a good chance that therapy might not work at all? Honestly what's the point in going on then?
Therapy got me from daily, intrusive, suicidal thoughts to last year being the best year of my life through changes I learned from therapy.

What I'd say is important is not to think you're going to be cured, as demotivating as that may be. Go in with the realistic expectation that depression is something you're always going to have to deal with, but you CAN learn highly effective tools that help you recognise bad mental habits and how to care for yourself.

Most importantly, always be kind to yourself. The best thing my therapist taught me is how to treat myself with sympathy and patience. In a way, you have to be a good "parent" to yourself, something many people never learn.

What tools work best for you will come down to your particular circumstances, but absolutely do not miss the opportunity to go to a therapist.
 
Watch the most recent Neal Brennan Netflix special. He has a lot of good things to say on the subject.

In college I had a girlfriend who had clinicical depression. I got so frustrated with her because of it and would often say all the wrong things. 15 years later I still regret a lot of it.
 
OP hits close to home and I can completely relate. Like, holy shit that "Some day of the week I can't keep up" part. I've been furloughed from work for the last 6 weeks, and that is pretty much what I've been fighting every day.

It's worse because I don't have much to distract from it and I don't really have the spare money to go do much. Basically I've been working out a ton and waiting for my company to land another project. Meditation and mindfulness exercises have been a godsend as well, since it's a tangible coping technique I can actually "do" if I'm falling into a bad place. Though I have to be committed to meditating every day, selectively using it when things are bad does not work for me in the least.

I've dealt with bipolar most of my adult life. Though I only really "accepted" the diagnosis after it started to cause major (major) problems in my mid-late 20's. When I say accepted, I mean I grew up in a family that didn't believe in mental illness, and while I never judged people for seeking help, I always thought I could out think whatever may be wrong with me. My Dad's entire side of the family was evidence that I was probably wrong. My Mom's mantras however were "you control your thoughts" and "you need to let God handle it." I dropped religion relatively early, but the other mindset stubbornly stuck with me, and it took some really bad situations before I finally conceded. It's still not easy, but it's a hell of a lot easier then it was.

I had to explain that over the years I've become very good at acting normal and bottling up negative emotions. So good that not even my wife was able to tell. Although, she has told me that i do have certain habits that i do when my depression is coming back or getting worse, and she's been getting better at identifying them. And it's helpful since she can keep me from being completely overtaken by depression.

I'm getting better, but I'll be damned that it sometimes feels like commanding a boulder to roll up a mountain. But it's completely worth it. Not having to wear a mask or fake emotions. Actually having good days and looking forward to another day. It's still sort of bizarre and foreign to me, but much better than what it used to be.

My best friend does the same in my life. She calls it "Professional Mike" when it starts to appear, because I basically transition myself into my work persona (though none of my jokes about shooting myself in the head while yelling "PERSONA!!!!" go over very well, so I'm thinking about getting a deck of cards...).

At that point my speech and mannerisms start tending towards the same person I'd be in an important client meeting at work, a job interview, or meeting a girls parents for the first time. It's a complete mask, but it's one that appears high functioning, ambitious and charismatic. Though it regularly leads to lots of bottled up emotions that will come out when I'm alone in the worst way and make my life a living hell. Fortunately I've gotten better at realizing when this is happening, and what steps I can take to stop the downward spiral, or at least reduce the duration/magnitude of the worst parts.
 
Basically what OP said but the thoughts "kill yourself" every second of third sentence.

Been suffering this since I was like 13 and I'm 27 now and finally trying to get help. On medication, tried CBT and now I'm giving Psychodynamic Therapy a shot. Only 2 sessions in though.
 
I'm seeing my first therapist on the 1st but there's a good chance that therapy might not work at all? Honestly what's the point in going on then?
You won't know until you try it, and even if it doesn't "cure" you at least it's an outlet. If you've taken the steps to see a therapist then you're probably not in a good mental place and it can't really make things worse.
 
I prefer to frame my self-communications as logical mind vs. emotional mind. The emotional mind is the one that is sick from depression. My logical mind knows the things I need to do today. It knows that going out will make me feel better. It knows that my friends don't all secretly hate me. It knows that I'm not a complete failure.

But my emotional mind says I should just sit and wallow, that I'm a failure, that some small thing I said will make it so that so-and-so hates me forever and that I should run through dozens of potential scenarios in my head to make it right somehow.

They're both me, but I like that separation because now that I have a diagnosis I know how it all works. I'm just not always able to do what my logical mind says is right. It's like being tricked by the devil into sin, except that you know full well it's the devil talking to you and the best you can do is make it quieter. And hopefully you can some day make it go away.
 
I am very thankful to have never suffered from a mental illness (mild diagnosed ADD as a child really doesn't count!), so thank you for outlining what depression feels like on a day-to-day basis. I hope you are able to get the help you need to eventually kick depression's ass.
 
A few thoughts from someone with depression and who researches the brain/the circuits involved here.

Seems like most people have realized that the brain/us are not just one homogeneous processor but have multiple discrete units working together so to speak. The circuits most involved in depression tend to be the feeling/mood based ones and not the logic/cortical/"smart" ones (unlike schizophrenia which can be thought of as a superset of depression). Depression generally means you just don't get the same feelings that normal people get which we generally live off of. If you don't feel hungry, hard to motivate yourself to get food.

There is hope, however (I'm just getting started with my research but there are far more hard working and smarter people working on these problems). New classes of drugs, new treatment modalities all together.

To anyone struggling or thinking they may have any neuropsychiatric problems, see a therapist/psychiatrist. They do help. The drugs may not be perfect but chances are one of them will work (they aren't all SSRI's, I am on bupropion/wellbutrin which is a bit more stimulant like).

There is a good TED talk (which I normally don't like) that made an interesting point. For some cases of depression (which is a very heterogeneous disease), its not about not being happy, its about not having "Vitality." Or rather, the opposite of being depressed is not being happy, its having the vitality to do the things you can and want to do but can't convince your nuccleus accumbens to react. For some people though, there is more of a distinct sadness to their depression but hopefully we will get some more scientifically based disease definitions but that is another problem for another day.
 
Well, I was diagnosed only with anxiety but at the time, I felt immense sadness eating me up inside.

I felt hopeless and detached from the real world.

Every second felt like I was about to die in a world which I didn't feel real (because I couldn't bear to believe that the things I felt were actually happening to me).

And if it wasn't the above, I felt nothing towards any event as if I was a mindless zombie.

Does that count as depression?

It sounds like it, yes.There is an overlap between depression and anxiety.

Hey man, first of all: Huge respect for putting yourself out there, telling strangers on the internet about this very intimate thing of yours. That alone is really powerful.

But second: You are hilarious. Had to legitimately laugh out loud once or twice, which made me feel pretty bad for a second there. It absolutely helps to frame this sickness in a more approachable way.

To quote Carrie Fisher: “If my life wasn't funny it would just be true, and that is unacceptable.”

Depression is poorly understood, and it kills people. I think sharing about this experience is important, and I would urge others to do the same, if they can without putting more harm on themselves.
 
How long have you folks with major depression been experiencing it? Did it begin at a certain age?

Started for me around age 7, when I changed schools and went into a "magnet" program. This meant I was now going to a school far from my neighborhood, and had a pretty serious effect on my social life.

It wasn't diagnosed until I was 15, a year after I had made a serious suicide attempt that no one found out about at the time.

16-18 were the worst years, for sure. When I finally quit high school and got a job, things began to change for me, and I'd say my depression largely went away. It still took quite a while to figure out how to live as a "normal" person.

In the 17-ish years since, I've definitely had relapses, and ultimately, I think it always sort of lurks just outside the periphery. But I've learned to cope with those moments in a way that younger me never could, and haven't needed meds or therapy to function since.
 
I've only skimmed the topic, so someone may have already suggested this, but...

Monday:
Brain: your sense of time is distorted. Watch the clock. WATCH THE CLOCK. You need to take your meds at 10.
Me: *takes pill at 10*
Brain: WTF you just took the pill twice today! ItÂ’s ten at night, youÂ’re supposed to take it in the morning!
Me: what do you mean itÂ’s not morning?!

...how I got around this problem was to set an alarm. Do I/did I take the pill? Depends, do I hear the alarm? Then no and don't think about it again until I hear the alarm.
 
hugs you all very tight.

I am currently dealing with some depression right now, I'm am not as happy as I used to be, energy is a little low but i find exercising helps me. My head feels all over the place and jumbled, I feel slow but I feel like its going 100 miles a second. My fiancee is very supportive her holding me helps alot

You all have my support and I pray for you all to get better (even if you're not religious)

We can get through this together guys/girls, let us unite and conquer our other half thats leaves us in the dark.

We can do it together
 
I'm sorry to hear this OP.

Can I ask you and others who may know this. Is it unusual for clinical depression to manifest itself in extreme anger and frustration?

I have a family member who is like this sometimes, and can be difficult to deal with, but of course, not her fault, just want her to be cured.
 
OP Have you been tested for physical causes such as hypothyroidism and neurometabolic disorders like cerebral folate deficiency?

And those of you living with depression, do you feel you have a purpose in life?
 
And those of you living with depression, do you feel you have a purpose in life?

Sort of? The only reason I'm kind of happy is to see my nephew's smile whenever I'm over at my sister's house. I need to still be "functional" to see him grow into his teens. I'm also not good with kids at all.

I.... Just don't have the energy and motivation I used to have anymore. I know some say you have to force yourself through it and just go and get it but, fuck is it hard to just get up and do something. Some days I get up, cook for my siblings and mom, most days I just lay in bed for nearly the whole day with weird thoughts in my head.

I used to work out some months ago and it never did much to help motivate and energize me. I used to go out with my friends and family but then it all comes crumbling down at the end of the day.

Cheers to the other people here who deal with depression.
 
I've had MDD for about 17 years now and I tend to avoid these topics.

Technically you might be right, "never tell someone with depression to just, cheer up" or trying to give insight into how shitty it can be. It ends up being a thread of justification to accept their current situation because it makes it seem like its outwith their control to set things right.

It's ok to justify your circumstances, to a certain degree, to be made to feel like a your inner core youre still just a normal person like everyone else, it gives us support and makes us feel a little better. But that support is also a crutch, because good things/feelings whatever rarely seem to come and go and when it does we can latch onto it for too long, which in turns blinds us.

We still have a lot to learn about the mechanisms of depression and how it affects us, its cause is usually stated as an imbalance of chemicals in the mind, yet we find medications that are believed to rebalance these chemicals perform significantly worse if just taken alone without therapy to compliment it.

Personally, my theory on that imbalance just comes from you. It's hard to explain, but its your brain responding to the mental prison you have yourself trapped in, and the side effects of your brain responding to your mental state come back and perpetuate and negative mental state. Which is why, I believe SSRIs suck on their own, because essentially the imbalance is caused by something not physically tangible.

And we all crave it right? Happiness and what we associate ourselves with happiness. Everyones goals are different right? As in, what makes people happy. But ultimately thats what we all want right? Or more eloquently put, we dont want to continually feel like shit all the time. However, i think when we set out to achieve that in our minds, we start maybe asking ourselves questions like "what can i do now that would make me happier" or maybe any attempts to change their life will fall into a category of "will this make me happier", you get the idea. And such a focus on that priority actually hides the truth from us. What happens when we try to answer questions based on that target?

Well, we slip into things that makes slightly happier, but is comfortable. So binge watching something on netflix, games, maybe drinking/weed, eating. Then regret we made the wrong choice the next day but end up doing it over and over, instant gratification.

If we dont fall into that category, we find other routes make us even more unhappy because we feel like its achievable because of road blocks or just because its taking too long.

personally i found that, changing my priority, taking things one step at a time. You can restore balance and happiness. If those things aren't your targets. Something that really stood out to me was that scene in south park when butters was talking about how beautiful sadness is, because without it he wouldnt be able to appreciate the times when life was really good.

For me thats where I found balance. Day by day, step by step, I tried things that were just different. "have i done this before" "is this new" were my new questions. Some challenges were really difficult, and some days I turn off all modes of communication and retreat into myself. I didnt always like what i was doing. But eventually your life starts to become a lot clearer. You will learn things about yourself that no amount of lying alone in your mind could ever teach you. You will find things you like and more things you dont. And you will start building something out of that information.

Is it a cure? No. Does depression become more manageable? Hell yes.

I know how hard it is to make those first steps and how scary it is. Eventually we all will have to break free from justifying ourselves and actually start changing ourselves. Or we will disappear from history like homo ergaster who literally just thunk themselves to death.
 
How long have you folks with major depression been experiencing it? Did it begin at a certain age?

I don't really recall when it started with me. I got diagnosed and medicated at... 30? 31? I don't remember exactly. A good chunk of my adult years are pretty fuzzy, lol. The earliest I can recall having suicidal thoughts though would be around 4 I think. Defenitely pre-kindergarten.

Many of the OP's description is fairly similiar to my experience, especially the internal arguments in my brain. The medication has mostly helped enough to remain more stable. I find it doesn't eliminate the problem, but helps compartmentalize it some. Like it's still there and a part of me, but not completely dominating my being. Like, usually I can make it through a workday and have normal conversations with customers and co-workers. Unfortunately, a good chunk of the time outside of work I'm fairly useless.

Seems like whenever I start making real progress with my life, something bad happens like an illness or injury, probably related to working too hard and the effort it takes to get through the day. Had a head injury at work last year which screwed things up right when I was starting back at school. Post concussion symptoms have suddenly come back with a vengence and I'm not quite sure what to do about it. It really kicks my depression and anxiety into high gear. One thing some people don't understand is the physical stress it can have on some people. Like real physical pain.
 
Does it make you happy? Cause maybe you can build off that.

I've had MDD for about 17 years now and I tend to avoid these topics.

Technically you might be right, "never tell someone with depression to just, cheer up" or trying to give insight into how shitty it can be. It ends up being a thread of justification to accept their current situation because it makes it seem like its outwith their control to set things right.

It's ok to justify your circumstances, to a certain degree, to be made to feel like a your inner core youre still just a normal person like everyone else, it gives us support and makes us feel a little better. But that support is also a crutch, because good things/feelings whatever rarely seem to come and go and when it does we can latch onto it for too long, which in turns blinds us.

We still have a lot to learn about the mechanisms of depression and how it affects us, its cause is usually stated as an imbalance of chemicals in the mind, yet we find medications that are believed to rebalance these chemicals perform significantly worse if just taken alone without therapy to compliment it.

Personally, my theory on that imbalance just comes from you. It's hard to explain, but its your brain responding to the mental prison you have yourself trapped in, and the side effects of your brain responding to your mental state come back and perpetuate and negative mental state. Which is why, I believe SSRIs suck on their own, because essentially the imbalance is caused by something not physically tangible.

And we all crave it right? Happiness and what we associate ourselves with happiness. Everyones goals are different right? As in, what makes people happy. But ultimately thats what we all want right? Or more eloquently put, we dont want to continually feel like shit all the time. However, i think when we set out to achieve that in our minds, we start maybe asking ourselves questions like "what can i do now that would make me happier" or maybe any attempts to change their life will fall into a category of "will this make me happier", you get the idea. And such a focus on that priority actually hides the truth from us. What happens when we try to answer questions based on that target?

Well, we slip into things that makes slightly happier, but is comfortable. So binge watching something on netflix, games, maybe drinking/weed, eating. Then regret we made the wrong choice the next day but end up doing it over and over, instant gratification.

If we dont fall into that category, we find other routes make us even more unhappy because we feel like its achievable because of road blocks or just because its taking too long.

personally i found that, changing my priority, taking things one step at a time. You can restore balance and happiness. If those things aren't your targets. Something that really stood out to me was that scene in south park when butters was talking about how beautiful sadness is, because without it he wouldnt be able to appreciate the times when life was really good.

For me thats where I found balance. Day by day, step by step, I tried things that were just different. "have i done this before" "is this new" were my new questions. Some challenges were really difficult, and some days I turn off all modes of communication and retreat into myself. I didnt always like what i was doing. But eventually your life starts to become a lot clearer. You will learn things about yourself that no amount of lying alone in your mind could ever teach you. You will find things you like and more things you dont. And you will start building something out of that information.

Is it a cure? No. Does depression become more manageable? Hell yes.

I know how hard it is to make those first steps and how scary it is. Eventually we all will have to break free from justifying ourselves and actually start changing ourselves. Or we will disappear from history like homo ergaster who literally just thunk themselves to death.

No. Just no. This is not a question of "fixing your thinking".

Without delving too much into my personal life and making this all about me, I've spent the past year trying to build myself a life that suits me. I've started my own business. I've had to learn new skills, I have autonomy and a creative outlet, plus all sorts of challenges I typically find interesting. I've purposely gone to this direction because these are things I've wanted into my life. The problem is that I have less and less energy or motivation to put into it. I can force myself to physically go through the motions, but I can't force myself to care about what I'm doing. That's the thing about depression. It's mostly not about the feeling of sadness, but feeling nothing at all.
 
The thing I hate about chronic depression is that people don't realize the work you have to put in. Disclaimer: My wife has it, not me.
She puts in the work. Doctor + Therapist + Meds. If the doctor is no good, change the doctor. Find a new one, set up an appointment. Answer the same dumb questions. If the therapist isn't good, change the therapist. And the meds change over time too, with tolerances and advances. It's this constantly changing mess that you do your best to keep ahead of only to hear people say that same tired ass rhetoric "Well if I could take a pill to make me happy, I would too!". If only it was just the pill. And only if it actually made you happy.

Glad to see people are talking about it more these days.
The worst part is that depression actively hinders your ability and/or desire to put in the work. And then when you do finally have energy and motivation to get stuff done, you focus on "normal" stuff and you convince yourself you don't need the help anymore.

I really should get a regular therapist to deal with the terrible habits I learned when I was severely depressed. (Particularly sleeping whenever I have free time and having low motivation for anything I'm not immediately held accountable for.) But I function enough that it just seems like more busy work. :/
 
No. Just no. This is not a question of "fixing your thinking".

Without delving too much into my personal life and making this all about me, I've spent the past year trying to build myself a life that suits me. I've started my own business. I've had to learn new skills, I have autonomy and a creative outlet, plus all sorts of challenges I typically find interesting. I've purposely gone to this direction because these are things I've wanted into my life. The problem is that I have less and less energy or motivation to put into it. I can force myself to physically go through the motions, but I can't force myself to care about what I'm doing. That's the thing about depression. It's mostly not about the feeling of sadness, but feeling nothing at all.
So you started a business without having any drive and feeling no emotion? Would you say those experiences have helped or hindered your condition? I'm just trying to understand the difference between someone clinically depressed and the hypothetical "normal" person.
 
Sadly coincidental that I read and participated in this thread early this morning. Just woke up to hear a family member killed himself and left his wife alone.

Whether I understand it in my own life or not, please get help. Even if it's just talking to us NeoGoofs. If you are lurking and wanna just come in and vent, please do.

And thank you to those that listened to me earlier in the thread. You have given me positive things to think about.
 
Sadly coincidental that I read and participated in this thread early this morning. Just woke up to hear a family member killed himself and left his wife alone.

Whether I understand it in my own life or not, please get help. Even if it's just talking to us NeoGoofs. If you are lurking and wanna just come in and vent, please do.

And thank you to those that listened to me earlier in the thread. You have given me positive things to think about.

Wow, this is such a sad story, sorry to hear.

Depression is no joke, for sure.
 
Sadly coincidental that I read and participated in this thread early this morning. Just woke up to hear a family member killed himself and left his wife alone.

Whether I understand it in my own life or not, please get help. Even if it's just talking to us NeoGoofs. If you are lurking and wanna just come in and vent, please do.

And thank you to those that listened to me earlier in the thread. You have given me positive things to think about.

Wow sorry man. Feel sorry for him, his wife and family and you.
 
Yeah I tried to talk to my grandma about my depression and go "well if anyone should have depression it's people who grew up in sharecropper fields." and about how she had sickle cell. Like. That's not helpful. It just feels like I'm being attacked for not having a bad enough background to being depressed.
 
I kept reading the conversation like there were three voices/people. Brain, you and Brian, whom I figured was your roommate or a friend... clearly something went wrong in my brain.
 
Sadly coincidental that I read and participated in this thread early this morning. Just woke up to hear a family member killed himself and left his wife alone.

Whether I understand it in my own life or not, please get help. Even if it's just talking to us NeoGoofs. If you are lurking and wanna just come in and vent, please do.

And thank you to those that listened to me earlier in the thread. You have given me positive things to think about.

I'm really sorry that happened, man. If you need someone to talk to, PM me.
 
This sounds accurate.

I'm doing pretty ok at the moment, but I've experienced times when I'd lay in bed thinking about how I'd kill myself, only to postpone it due to not having enough energy to go through with it.. in hindsight that was a good thing but it made me feel even more angry at myself at the time.
 
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