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What makes one drug illegal and another one legal?
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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Pot also causes second hand depression.
OJdaKiller
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As others have said it's typically history, money, current attitudes of society. Sure as shit is never about concern for public safety...
BakedPigeon
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MrHicks said:
I wasn't diehard serious about that comment btw. I just think its funny to imagine everyone stoned out of their minds.
SapientWolf
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The funny thing is that some pharmaceutical companies now want to see if they can profit from THC, so if marijuana ever gets legalized it'll be because they lobbied for it. And in the end it'll probably still be illegal to grow your own.
umop_3pisdn
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SapientWolf said:
Well yeah. That was the whole idea with marinol. Take cannabinoids, and pharmaceuticalize them by trying to eliminate all recreational value.
Masaki_ said:
Bill Hicks - Mandatory Marijuana (rant on war on drugs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZqYV9KKOZQ
he says it in allot of sets:lol
UltimaPooh
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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Nice name.
Mr. Blonde
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I don't agree with the argument that marijuana is illegal because it would be too hard to tax. If that was the reason, then how come other things people grow aren't illegal?
My opinion is that marijuana is illegal because past generations had different opinions of it than today's young people do.
My opinion is that marijuana is illegal because past generations had different opinions of it than today's young people do.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Stabbie said:
You manage a Taco Bell, don't you??
joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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Never noticed the robo-cod piece before.Lionel Mandrake said:
I have no clue why weed is illegal. 13 days from today there is going to be a Caribbean festival in Miami with all the Marley's performing. I will be smoking weed there, in front of cops, with other people, the entire time(2 til whenever). I just want it to be legal so I can smoke in public with no concerns.
UltimaPooh
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Stabbie said:
It's the reason why it's not legal...
Do you know how much we spend on just the Marijuana portion of the War on Drugs? About 3/4s of the 49 million or so. That's taxes form us going to Police and other drug fighters to fight the supposed crime that is happening.
Now on the other side of the fence, the growers and dealers. They like it to be illegal because when the shit goes into the U.S. the prices double.
Then there are all the people to the side that benefit from it being illegal like cotton manufacturers and cotton farmers.
The only thing the drug laws do is hurt actual law abiding citizens who pay their taxes.
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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Stabbie said:
UltimaPooh
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Lets not forget about all the benefits we would get from stopping the war on Marijuana alone... It would save us billions we can put towards the shortfalls in our budgets or help with education...
Then you can also throw on the taxes, tax them the same as cigarettes if you have to, fine by me. And regulate them like alcohol, making the legal age to use 21.
Then our clothing and textile industries will have new competition through hemp manufactures and growers coming into the industry.
This is currently the worst thing we could be spending our taxes on.
It makes perfect sense.
Then you can also throw on the taxes, tax them the same as cigarettes if you have to, fine by me. And regulate them like alcohol, making the legal age to use 21.
Then our clothing and textile industries will have new competition through hemp manufactures and growers coming into the industry.
This is currently the worst thing we could be spending our taxes on.
It makes perfect sense.
H.Cornerstone
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Because Tobacco and Alcohol are so ingrained American culture they would be impossible to get rid of. Remember Prohibition in the 20's? All it did was cause more crime, so they got rid of it. And I guess you haven't been watching TV or been to a school lately. All you hear all day is "Don't drink and drive." Plus, one beer isn't going to impair you. One joint? Probably.
And what makes what drug legal and another not? Medical benefits. Codeine can be used for many reasons, Weed? Not so much.
And what makes what drug legal and another not? Medical benefits. Codeine can be used for many reasons, Weed? Not so much.
PflargBlarg
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H.Cornerstone said:
Maybe you should inform yourself on the uses of marijuana and its effects before you say something as dumb as this. (Hint: alcohol impairs you wayyyy more than weed does)
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Gilby said:
People don't need to smoke pot as much as they do eat or drink. With tobaccoo people smoke a lot more than with pot.. The daily sales wouldn't be there enough to drive the price down into veggie/beer/camel lights like pricing...
Sometimes the culprit is the misinformation. Here in my country, cannabis is illegal because it's an "hallucinogen" and dude i've never met someone who trips with weed (and cannabis is a psychoactive)... But they keep teaching fear at schools instead of teach about the difference of plants with history, plants used by old civilizations in rituals like the incas and bad drugs like crack.
grap3fruitman
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And here's the thing, who are you to tell me or anyone else what to do? You're not my parent and neither is the government. How can you call this a free country if I can't do what I want to my own body (as long as I'm not hurting anyone else)?Immortal_Daemon said:
SlaughterX
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How easily it's made. Weed can be grown almost anywhere, so it's illegal. Tobacco can't so it's all good!
sneakypete
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Immortal_Daemon said:
You're wrong. You could smoke/ingest raw tobacco and develop a dependence because of the nicotine in the plant. The additives are for flavor/preservation/etc. I know this first hand due to smoking hookah, which contains very different ingredients than cigarettes.
I highly(pun intended) doubt this assumption is correct. Just because you no longer have to illegally obtain weed doesn't mean you're going to consume more. Where's there logic in that? Peoples lives would go on just as before.
CharlieDigital said:
With a 100 dollar investment (and an increased electricity bill), i can grow weed in my closet that is just as good as the weed i buy in dutch coffeeshops or from canadian mailorder. Any master brewer would punch you in the face if he heard you suggest that you could brew beer of equal quality with some home brewing kit.
PuppetSlave
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Stabbie said:
Oh yes we do. It's not popular though and having eaten there I understand why.
Jedeye Sniv
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BakedPigeon said:
Alcohol is legal, not everyone goes to work drunk all the time, why would legalising drugs be any different?
Immortal_Daemon said:
I think this is an interesting point though, I know quite a few stoners who can barely get anything done without getting mashup first, they smoke like cigarette smokers do, it's daft. I can make it through a whole day at work without even breaking a sweat, those people are just weak and making excuses for wanting to get stoned. Use drugs responsibily like you'd treat alcohol and everything is fine, sneak off for a stoner-break in the middle of the day and you're starting to fuck your life up IMO. After all, you rarely get people nipping off at lunch to down half a bottle of vodka.
Well, a society that isn't using recreational drugs all other things being equal is better than one that does. Generally, being on drugs makes you a useless person during that time, and society does not benefit from having useless people. They tried to ban alcohol, it didn't work. There's a huge history and culture behind it, and it wasn't happening.
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