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What online game has the most toxic community overall?

schennmu said:
To say something positive, the Dark Souls pvp community seems pretty nice overall. You will get treated like a scrub if you try to abuse cheap gear or tactics but overall there is a lot of respect for good players. (At least from what I have seen so far)
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I have also found this to be true. One of the most positive, helpful gaming communities anywhere. Which is weird considering how unbalanced the game is. Maybe that even helps. Getting beaten by a cheap build or tactic stings a bit less than losing to someone who's simply better at the game than you.
 
The original DOTA takes the cake for me. All the shit MOBA's have now, without any form of moderation, not to mention people dropping games right before you started one, forcing you to make a new game. From my experience, MOBA's seem to be worse than FPS (which are pretty damn bad) and MMO games, but more than enough of it exists everywhere.
 
Nothing can be worse than League of Legends.

On MMORPGs I've found the worst community ever in FFXIV.

Bet let's talk about very good, polite and helpful communities too: LotRO, TSW (before you get into nightmares, at least), DAoC.
 
Dota 2's is probably the worst I've come across (can't compare it to League, as I've never tried it).

Even the official forums feel pretty hostile to newcomers, and even a slight discrepancy in choice of items or build seems to often erupt into huge arguments.

In addition, it seems like the huge requirement on communication in the game has institutionalized hatred against anyone not speaking English. Brazilian and Russian players instantly become the most hated people imaginable.

WoW has often been pretty bad too, especially with the whole war between 'hardcore' players and 'casuals'. I remember plenty of posters on the forums who would basically take the stance that anyone who had achieved more than them must be 'no-lifers' and anyone who hadn't achieved as much must be 'filthy casuals'.
 
I've tried to get into LoL and DotA2, and unfortunately everyone who plays those games online are assholes. I'll wait until Smite comes out on consoles so I have a level playing field.

It's still astonishing, I tried LoL a long time ago, wrote it off because my team mates let alone other players were assholes. Tried it and DotA a few more times here and there, and I thought I was just so miraculously terrible at the game I should just write MOBAs off entirely. I start reading GAF topics and I find out that I'm not alone, and that the LoL community is just THAT terrible. It kind of gives me a sense of redemption.
 
That's why I avoid PvP in games and games based on PvP (MOBA) even more.
Dunno if it's because of my agoraphobia but it affect too much.
 
I feel downright blessed that I'm not into MOBA games like League and Dota, these communities make me die a little on the inside when I interact with them.

As primarily a console gamer, I always thought COD of Duty communities were bad. They got nothing on MOBA communities.
 
antitrop said:
Unless you're PhantomLord, you probably shouldn't be using Revive, anyway. It's kind of a worthless Summoner Spell, you should be picking ones that help you not die instead of ones that help you after you die.

99% of the time someone picks Revive, it's because they're trolling, so they can get back to the lane faster and feed more kills. But the proper thing to do would be to explain that so the person can learn and pick better spells in the future, instead of reporting and banning them, obviously.
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Naw, it's (or was when I played it, anyways) actually pretty useful in late game emergencies when spawn times can take up to a minute.
 
Hypoallergenic Chie said:
someone on Soul Calibur 5 online managed to make their character look like a horseman with a giant penis, does that count as toxic? I hate fighting him. It's embarressing losing to a penis.
that's the only online game I've played in a while, so I don't run into bad players very often.
I think it's worth noting that Borderlands players seem to be particularly good at being friendly.
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My friend who plays SC5 has a horseman with a giant penis that he always plays as...
 
Hypoallergenic Chie said:
someone on Soul Calibur 5 online managed to make their character look like a horseman with a giant penis, does that count as toxic? I hate fighting him. It's embarressing losing to a penis.
that's the only online game I've played in a while, so I don't run into bad players very often.
I think it's worth noting that Borderlands players seem to be particularly good at being friendly.
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Was it H8ter Fistinator?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjm11vYJkbU
 
IMO it is DOTA2 or CS:GO

Apparently you have to be an expert in these games and if you are not, they will let you know you suck. Not what you are doing wrong and how to fix it to help you get better, but just tell you that you suck. LOL!

My favorite part is how everyone else thinks they are progamers, even if they have horrible stats and are doing stupid stuff too.

Both games are tons of fun so I usually just ignore them when directed at me, but I hate to see new players getting shit talked to them because they are trying to play the game and are trying to learn it.
 
fluffydelusions said:
Never really had any issues with DOTA 2...maybe a couple times but then again I never know what that 1 Russian is saying that doesn't speak English on your team.
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Same here,sure you have bad apples sometimes but i just mute and report them there are enough players that don't know what the hell they are doing for example. My overall experience in Dota 2 is rather ok for the rest.
 
animlboogy said:
I would defend CS normally but it's summer. The games are indeed several magnitudes worse. Can't wait for school to start so these little bastards can't play all day.

Here's an actual conversation heard during competitive warmup:

"WHO HERE HATES NIGGERS?"
"I FUCKIN' DO! I hate niggers so much!"
"I just got my college roommate assignment and its a fucking nigger."
"How'd he even get into college? They let niggers in?"
"He's a nigger, and he plays hockey."
"Fuck, that's one confused individual."
"Its like he doesn't know he's a nigger."

Then the match started. These were people on two separate teams. This is a conversation that can be had between two randomly matched people.
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This shit right here is why I hate the anonymity... These two should be punched in the head. But I just ignore that stuff online because it's so pathetic that it's obvious they doing it for attention
 
Let me preface this by saying I do not have any first hand experience with this, but I've heard Heroes of Newerth has an absolutely terrible community.
 
PseudoViper said:
I gotta put my money on Monster Hunter.

It's hard to play that game online if you're not above a certain Hunter Rank. People will kick you just for joining.
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I never had a single experience of that in 130 hours of online in Tri, best online community ever for me.

Veteran hunters were happy to help newbies on early quests as they were there to farm materials, and then I did the same later on. As long as you check out exactly what each group are after you'll be OK, expecting three veterans to sign up to continuallt do all of your low level quests for you while you just turn up to carve the beast at the end is a bit poor, especially if what they want to hunt is something you aren't allowed to join because of a low HR. The best thing to do if you're struggling is to join hunters who are just slightly above you, that way you all still get a challenging hunt and you aren't stopping them taking a full-strength team on a high-level hunt.

If it's veteran hunters farming bosses you can only just access, you aren't going to be much help and you aren't going to learn much as your equipment means that you are a liability, a one-hit kill when you only have three lives between four of you and they might be waiting for a more powerful player. The best thing to do is to start your own room, listing what you want to hunt, and get going. People of a similar level (or experienced hunters happy to help out) will join you soon enough and you can all learn together.

There's a fair bit of etiquette in Monster Hunter- take turns in posting quests, leave a room if the other three are farming a quest over and over (one of them is after a very rare drop). If you want help with something you are stuck on, start your own room so you can say so when others arrive. If it's quiet, join a room and sign up to help the others first, then post your request. Don't just arrive and immediately post your request, as the others are probably mid-cycle in helping each other- another hunter may have been patiently helping others for an hour, waiting for help with their own task. Having a new arrival run in paste up a request isn't going to get the other three to join, as they already know whose turn it is, and it isn't the new guy.

It only takes one decent hunt to get a crowd that will farm with you all evening, it's just about putting others first for a change, and not expecting a room to immediately change what it's been doing because you need help. We once had a new guy beg for help with the last boss of Tri online, Aleotron. We went in, and this guy stayed in camp for the whole battle. Another hunter had server issues and disconnected. That left two of us, half-strength, to do a long, tough battle for a player we had never even seen before. It took 35 minutes, we almost failed, and he stayed in camp the whole time. When he finally ran out to carve, each of us kept interupting him as we felt he didn't deserve the items as he had made no effort to learn the battle. He was so pissed off, but to be honest so were we with him. We kicked him immediately after too, but only for taking the piss, not for needing help.

Considering the amount of racist, bigoted nonsense that other communities can spawn, calling monster hunter toxic because high-level hunters don't want a quarter of their strength to be a liability when farming tough beasts seems a bit inaccurate, especially for a game where you can play for 45 mins and end up with nothing if a player dies three times.
 
League.

Side thought- I remember running into my first internet troll/griefer in Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition.(i was kind of late to get internet lol) I got pretty upset by the whole thing, and wondered why anyone would say and do such things. Haha
 
Either fighting games or LoL

PseudoViper said:
I gotta put my money on Monster Hunter.

It's hard to play that game online if you're not above a certain Hunter Rank. People will kick you just for joining.
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I know you're banned, but I feel like I have to clear this up for people who haven't played MH. Your rank isn't just something for show, it affects what quests you can go on. Chances are your rank was too low to do the quests the people in the room are doing. Always look for rooms that have people of the same rank as you until you hit the highest tier of quests.
 
redcrayon said:
I never had a single experience of that in 130 hours of online in Tri, best online community ever for me.

Veteran hunters were happy to help newbies on early quests as they were there to farm materials, and then I did the same later on. As long as you check out exactly what each group are after you'll be OK, expecting three veterans to sign up to continuallt do all of your low level quests for you while you just turn up to carve the beast at the end is a bit poor, especially if what they want to hunt is something you aren't allowed to join because of a low HR. The best thing to do if you're struggling is to join hunters who are just slightly above you, that way you all still get a challenging hunt and you aren't stopping them taking a full-strength team on a high-level hunt.

If it's veteran hunters farming bosses you can only just access, you aren't going to be much help and you aren't going to learn much as your equipment means that you are a liability, a one-hit kill when you only have three lives between four of you and they might be waiting for a more powerful player. The best thing to do is to start your own room, listing what you want to hunt, and get going. People of a similar level (or experienced hunters happy to help out) will join you soon enough and you can all learn together.

There's a fair bit of etiquette in Monster Hunter- take turns in posting quests, leave a room if the other three are farming a quest over and over (one of them is after a very rare drop). If you want help with something you are stuck on, start your own room so you can say so when others arrive. If it's quiet, join a room and sign up to help the others first, then post your request. Don't just arrive and immediately post your request, as the others are probably mid-cycle in helping each other- another hunter may have been patiently helping others for an hour, waiting for help with their own task. Having a new arrival run in paste up a request isn't going to get the other three to join, as they already know whose turn it is, and it isn't the new guy.

It only takes one decent hunt to get a crowd that will farm with you all evening, it's just about putting others first for a change, and not expecting a room to immediately change what it's been doing because you need help. We once had a new guy beg for help with the last boss of Tri online, Aleotron. We went in, and this guy stayed in camp for the whole battle. Another hunter had server issues and disconnected. That left two of us, half-strength, to do a long, tough battle for a player we had never even seen before. It took 35 minutes, we almost failed, and he stayed in camp the whole time. When he finally ran out to carve, each of us kept interupting him as we felt he didn't deserve the items as he had made no effort to learn the battle. He was so pissed off, but to be honest so were we with him. We kicked him immediately after too, but only for taking the piss, not for needing help.
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Yea, really shocked at a couple MH3 shout-outs. I've put 80 hours into the game myself over the last year and have had nothing but wonderful experiences with strangers and helpful veterans willing to help farm or rank up. One of the most inspiring and helpful communities I've come across, very passionate about the game and garnering more interest from others...and I became one of them.

I wonder if the above posters are using the lobby interface properly? Actually searching for rooms that feature their own HR rank and not just diving into whatever has space. Of course you will get kicked if you are a lowly HR1 trying to game with G-rank peeps because their room had two open spaces.
 
MOBAs.

FPS has some ragers, but it's not as bad as MOBAs because it's mostly voice chat. People are less likely to be toxic when they're using their voice.
 
I've been playing a lot of Dota 2, LoL, and CS:GO recently, and I have to say, CS has been far and away the worst for me in the past few months. I'm sure it varies a bit depending on what bracket you're in for each game, but CS is filled with annoying fucks from every conceivable stereotype, and they're all on the mic constantly. Dota has been fairly quiet, and the LoL stuff is tame by comparison. Although nothing will ever touch the horrible community HoN had. The game makers themselves were pieces of shit, and I've never been a part of a more vicious and annoying gaming sphere in my 10+ years of playing competitive games online.
 
The problem isn't the games - it's the internet. People act like dicks on the internet, I don't think that's unique or particularly worse on any game
 
Does the fighting game community still have problems like it did a few years ago? Just thinking of that sexism controversy at a SFxT thing, although admittedly that controversy probably concerned prominent players in the community and not a large percentage of the player base. In my own experience I have little issues with the FGC. I start an online game, I lose, we go our separate ways.

FIFA's community can go either way, I usually mute people chatting over the microphones. I did once leather a guy so comprehensively in FIFA 13 that he sent me a voice message over Xbox Live telling me to fuck my grandfather which was a bit out of order.
 
From what I played: Chivalry

I played it during the free weekend, played on 5 servers total, got banned from 5 servers for spamming and hacking :/
 
Online gaming...

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Yeah, MOBAs. As someone who only dabbled a little bit into them, they are extremely daunting moreso because of the toxicity thrown around at people learning the ropes and turned me off on actually learning.
 
Any game with multiplayer that relies on private servers has the potential to become insanely toxic. Valve games are some of the worst offenders.

Allowing people to host servers is giving server owners an uncomfortable amount of control over the community. You know how racist subreddits give the entire website a bad name? It's significantly worse in private video game servers, because the toxicity isn't advertised. Well-adjusted people end up playing on servers run by mouthbreathing manchildren who spout racial slurs as if they're punctuation.
 
Serra said:
Stop misusing the word toxic, please.
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"Toxic" as a metaphor for player behaviour is fine to use.

As a huge LoL player, it can be awful for people learning the game. You will often be matched with smurfs because they are the ones on new accounts because their main account got banned. The game's huge popularity and F2P model also lets people have no barrier to entry, they can just jump in and start trolling people. The downtime between deaths also gives people a huge window to be abusive, rather than an FPS with fast respawns.

However, I believe a lot of it is exaggerated. It's less than 1% of the player base who end up with punishments, but confirmation bias can make the problem seem a lot worse than it really is. We always remember that one game where the troll abused people and ruined the experience, but not the 20 other games where everyone was civil and sportsmanlike.
 
Meffer said:
Your HR helps people know how far along you are. If you are a low rank taking a higher rank Guild Quest you really couldn't do much. You weapon would likely bounce off from most of the monster, making you unable to damage it. And the monster would CRUSH you.
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Kinsei said:
I know you're banned, but I feel like I have to clear this up for people who haven't played MH. Your rank isn't just something for show, it affects what quests you can go on. Chances are your rank was too low to do the quests the people in the room are doing. Always look for rooms that have people of the same rank as you until you hit the highest tier of quests.
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In MH3U you can continue to raise your HR after beating the 'end boss' of G-Rank, it's mostly just cosmetic but IIRC it was an alternative method of unlocking some monsters. It wouldn't surprise me if there were people out there who somehow equated that number with skill and would exclude someone if they weren't HR150 or something stupid like that.

At least, that's the gist I got from the original post. Probably can't get it clarified since they're banned now, lol.
 
redcrayon said:
I never had a single experience of that in 130 hours of online in Tri, best online community ever for me.

Veteran hunters were happy to help newbies on early quests as they were there to farm materials, and then I did the same later on. As long as you check out exactly what each group are after you'll be OK, expecting three veterans to sign up to continuallt do all of your low level quests for you while you just turn up to carve the beast at the end is a bit poor, especially if what they want to hunt is something you aren't allowed to join because of a low HR. The best thing to do if you're struggling is to join hunters who are just slightly above you, that way you all still get a challenging hunt and you aren't stopping them taking a full-strength team on a high-level hunt.

If it's veteran hunters farming bosses you can only just access, you aren't going to be much help and you aren't going to learn much as your equipment means that you are a liability, a one-hit kill when you only have three lives between four of you and they might be waiting for a more powerful player. The best thing to do is to start your own room, listing what you want to hunt, and get going. People of a similar level (or experienced hunters happy to help out) will join you soon enough and you can all learn together.

There's a fair bit of etiquette in Monster Hunter- take turns in posting quests, leave a room if the other three are farming a quest over and over (one of them is after a very rare drop). If you want help with something you are stuck on, start your own room so you can say so when others arrive. If it's quiet, join a room and sign up to help the others first, then post your request. Don't just arrive and immediately post your request, as the others are probably mid-cycle in helping each other- another hunter may have been patiently helping others for an hour, waiting for help with their own task. Having a new arrival run in paste up a request isn't going to get the other three to join, as they already know whose turn it is, and it isn't the new guy.

It only takes one decent hunt to get a crowd that will farm with you all evening, it's just about putting others first for a change, and not expecting a room to immediately change what it's been doing because you need help. We once had a new guy beg for help with the last boss of Tri online, Aleotron. We went in, and this guy stayed in camp for the whole battle. Another hunter had server issues and disconnected. That left two of us, half-strength, to do a long, tough battle for a player we had never even seen before. It took 35 minutes, we almost failed, and he stayed in camp the whole time. When he finally ran out to carve, each of us kept interupting him as we felt he didn't deserve the items as he had made no effort to learn the battle. He was so pissed off, but to be honest so were we with him. We kicked him immediately after too, but only for taking the piss, not for needing help.

Considering the amount of racist, bigoted nonsense that other communities can spawn, calling monster hunter toxic because high-level hunters don't want a quarter of their strength to be a liability when farming tough beasts seems a bit inaccurate, especially for a game where you can play for 45 mins and end up with nothing if a player dies three times.
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Great post. And yeah the community in MH has been fantastic overall, in my experience. That might be because it's a 100% cooperative game, though, nothing competitive? I don't know. I have 130 hours or so in MH3, and recently started 3U (currently HR3, about to do my Urgent), and the only negative experience I have is either the beggars/freeloaders as you say (I can't imagine how this could be fun for people to idle in the camp while the others play the game for you...), of which I have seen very little, and the opposite, OP folks barging into a novice room while we're just starting out and want a challenge. Though to be fair, if we politely ask them to use a weaker weapon to not kill the monster in 40 seconds, they usually do (if not I just kick them or leave for another room).

Then sometimes you have trolls who'll sabotage your quest by stunning you on purpose or trying to bomb you or whatnot, but when I see players like that I just abandon the quest and leave/kick.
 
Monster hunters are welcoming. Don't know what you're doing? Stay back, try to get a few hits in, don't die 3 times. It's all good.
 
I bought Rainbow 6 Vegas about 3 months after launch. My time playing the game was filled with all sorts of vile shit being thrown at me because I was new or just being kicked from every game.

Such a great community, they must be so proud of themselves.
 
A bit old and shameful but RuneScape for me.
Your either a max level 'no life' or a noob. They tend to be elitist.

I play as a female and everyday I am accused of being male or if not I have to be fat, ugly, Virgin or a slut. Because they can't comprehend that a normal person would play.
 
Silky said:
MOBAs
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Yup. I love Dota 2, but I refuse to play a game with such a toxic community.

Additionally, I would say the Smash Bros community is very toxic, although the game still is mostly played local, since the online sucked (hopefully it will be better in the upcoming games). A small and vocal part of the Smash Bros fandom (mostly the overly competitive players) is so toxic . You can't even like a game that isn't Melee or Project M without they jumping down your throat and apparently, you can't prefer the 3DS version of the new game without some of them looking down on you. When you read stupid things like "Sakurai should publicly apologize for making the 3DS version" and "Brawl killed people's interest in Smash Bros", you know there is something really wrong with the community.

That said, I should add two things: 1. There is a lot of nice people in the community, but the rotten apples always stand out more, unfortunately. 2. I am not referring to the NeoGAF Smash community, but the whole Smash community in the internet.

Sorry for the rant. lol
 
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