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Dante said:
The videos are going to be the most telling, I don't want lifeless expressions on these high res models, they better be rigged nicely, and have some kick ass facial animation, lets just say I got high expectations for the animation in MGS4.

Agreed.
 
Did the GoW animation look improved? N3 is one of the games I was hoping to see, though I doubt it will ever be translated for the West.
 
Shompola said:
What a fucking joke this guy is.
GhaleonEB said:
I added him to 'ignore' months ago. Just a suggestion...

LMFAO.

AltogetherAndrews said:
There's nothing "artistic" about the old man's face. It's an old man's face in a generic comic book style, and that's it. You're seeing things that aren't there because you're under the assumption that, because it's MGS, it's automatically an artistic achievement.

No, I'm seeing things EXACTLY as they are. That's the benefit of not being blind.
 
trmas said:
Did the GoW animation look improved? N3 is one of the games I was hoping to see, though I doubt it will ever be translated for the West.
I think with a smoother framerate the animation will be ok.
Ho I don't know if it's new footage or not but the few seconds they have shown of framecity killer looked 60fps to me. Very smooth.
 
A) These games are built on different foundations. There are too many technicalities to concern yourself with to just simply judge "mug shot A" versus "mug shot B"

Please please please stop acting so mother fucking stupid. Holy shit guys look at yourselves, it's fucking gamefaqs. We've totally skipped IGN and went down the shit.

B) All those games look good. Dead Rising is the best looking game that offers what it offers, 1000 + zombies and frankly I'm digging the themes and it looks good, if not "my god not better than GOW good" than at least it's decent, or on par, or visually impressive albeit not best.

C) I don't think Dead Rising's goal is to floor gamers with the characters mug shot. No offense, but you won't be seeing that. If you do, the game will have -one annoying camera- system.

D) The visual upgrade for Dead Rising is amazing and it really gets me excited for the 360. The jump from alpha to beta was pretty large, how do I make this assumption--because of how kickass Dead Rising looks especially compared to how it previously looked back at E3.

Now, let's fucking hope Page 8 has a slightly higher overall IQ

Stop posting mug-shots! See pictures of a game, give it a thumbs up or thumbs down and move on. GAF should turn communist =/
 
rastex said:
Do you guys ever step back and just look at what you're typing, and realize what you're saying? It used to bother me kind of, now it's just gotten to a level so ridiculously absurd that it's just hilarious.

There ya go. Except I no longer find it funny. Can't we create a fanboy-free forum where people can talk intelligently about games? This forum is great for news, but boy the quality of the posters is really going down the crap slide. It's like people no longer care if they look like fools. I'll never understand the fanboy mentality. At one time I thought it was an age thing, but I was wrong. There are jackasses on all sides as well.
 
Blimblim said:
I think with a smoother framerate the animation will be ok.
Ho I don't know if it's new footage or not but the few seconds they have shown of framecity killer looked 60fps to me. Very smooth.

new frame city footage? gameplay, or bits from the trailer? do you have that and gears of war captured? if so, any plans to uplaod those?

i know i'd be interested in both.
 
Kleegamefan said:
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Dead Rising<<<Killzone guy<Gears of War guy<<Snake<Otacon<<guy in background of Killzone pic
 
GhaleonEB said:
Oh, Amir0x.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. -1 for ignore, huh? Like a fucking clock.

krypt0nian said:
You are making artistic judgement calls and then telling me mine are flat out wrong. That's beneath you. Its something Olimario excels at though. Pick your company because you are taking a huge turn for the worse.

Talk about losing respect.

I'm telling you exactly what I believe. If you think Gears of War face actually looks better, that's you're right. I'm telling you, in so many words, that I feel you now have seriously bad taste.
 
op_ivy said:
new frame city footage? gameplay, or bits from the trailer? do you have that and gears of war captured? if so, any plans to uplaod those?

i know i'd be interested in both.
I have the whole conference captured on my PC.
 
Amir0x said:
I'm telling you exactly what I believe. If you think Gears of War face actually looks better, your right. I'm telling you, in so many words, that I feel you now seriously bad taste.


Great well now I'm telling you that you've treated me like utter shit tonight. Hope you got what you needed out of that.
 
like i said, as far as frame city goes, if its bits from the trailer, dont bother. but gameplay from a recent build would be awesome. the only gam,eplay videos thus far that i am aware of are the e3 "prototype-level" gameplay shit. i'd love to see something much more current.

and gears of war would be awesome too.
 
krypt0nian said:
Great well now I'm telling you that you've treated me like utter shit tonight. Hope you got what you needed out of that.

Please, let's not make this into some god-damn spanish novella. No need for melodrama, we ain't getting anywhere. Because it's clear from this thread and others, we're not really going to settle this until the trailer comes.
 
Amir0x, in what way is the GoW head artistically bad looking, while snake better? Is it the cartoonish look of MGS 4? That the GoW guy looks like a stereo type of a commando soldier?

And thinking that the GoW head is looking better than the plastic snake one is bad taste now? Pathetic you are...
 
Man, I've got to be blind because of the 720p shots on Blim Blim's site, they look the SAME as what I've got in the trailer. I recognize the one with him standing on the truck, and the vegetable section.

As far as the animation, in the high res trailer he swings a baseball bat, and it looks like crap. The character really appears kind of slow and jerky in all his movements.

Although the game gets major kudos for allowing you to run over zombies with a lawnmower.
 
Amir0x said:
Because it's clear from this thread and others, we're not really going to settle this until the trailer comes.

:lol :lol :lol

You don't actually believe that, it'd ever be settled at GAF do you? :P
 
Amir0x said:
Please, let's not make this into some god-damn spanish novella. No need for melodrama, we ain't getting anywhere. Because it's clear from this thread and others, we're not really going to settle this until the trailer comes.


It was clear you weren't getting anywhere when you brought "art" and taste into this discussion.
 
satterfield said:
There ya go. Except I no longer find it funny. Can't we create a fanboy-free forum where people can talk intelligently about games? This forum is great for news, but boy the quality of the posters is really going down the crap slide. It's like people no longer care if they look like fools. I'll never understand the fanboy mentality. At one time I thought it was an age thing, but I was wrong. There are jackasses on all sides as well.

I've been thinking very seriously about this for a while now, a place where people who LOVE games could talk about them. Not people who love TO talk about games where it's just arguments for arguments sake, trolling, divisions, alliances and all sorts of ridiculous and petty garbage. A place where mainly positive opinions are given and negative points are done in a constructive manner with intelligence.

But I think the truth of the matter is that trolls are very active posters who bring LOTS of content, and lots of content is what brings people to forums. Though when the trolling gets to this level of absurdity it starts having a negative impact and drives people away. That's why there's always some leeway when it comes to forums, but the mods here have just totally let it get out of hand.

How are the SomethingAwful gaming forums? Their free areas have some great content on them.
 
Shompola said:
Amir0x, in what way is the GoW head artistically bad looking, while snake better? Is it the cartoonish look of MGS 4? That the GoW guy looks like a stereo type of a commando soldier?

And thinking that the GoW head is looking better than the plastic snake one is bad taste now? Pathetic you are...

Why would you even want my opinion now? I expressed a page back why I felt Gears of War face was not quite at Old Snake face level. You can read it if you like, and make some likely failed attempt to be clever in response.

Shogmaster said:
You don't actually believe that, it'd ever be settled at GAF do you? :P

No. But at least we can tell just how the thing moves :P

HookieJoe said:
It was clear you weren't getting anywhere when you brought "art" and taste into this discussion.

This is so silly. Art is a HUGE part of the visual appeal of a title. To try to ignore the giant part it plays is silly, and not even worth trying. How appealing the visuals are is DIRECTLY related to what direction they take.
 
Amir0x said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. -1 for ignore, huh? Like a fucking clock.



I'm telling you exactly what I believe. If you think Gears of War face actually looks better, that's you're right. I'm telling you, in so many words, that I feel you now have seriously bad taste.

hey seriously, get a clue buddy - at one time you seemed reasonable but you are coming off like a total fanboi jerk. we get it, you have a hard on for mgs and anything else is shit compared to it

Because it's clear from this thread and others, we're not really going to settle this until the trailer comes.

and this isn't some schoolyard where "fights" get settled.
 
Ok the new N3 trailer is being encoded right now (only 320x180 for the moment, sorry)
With a 25 kbytes/s upload speed, it will take some time to upload it...
 
Blimblim said:
Ok the new N3 trailer is being encoded right now (only 320x180 for the moment, sorry)
With a 25 kbytes/s upload speed, it will take some time to upload it...


Not 480x272? =)

My PSP has room for love.
 
GashPrex said:
hey seriously, get a clue buddy - at one time you seemed reasonable but you are coming off like a total fanboi jerk. we get it, you have a hard on for mgs and anything else is shit compared to it

Uh, no. MGS4 looks good, sure. But other things don't look like SHIT compared to it. Quite the contrary, MGS4 just happens to be one of the best we've seen and the fact that the XBX360 has any game that even allows debate over which looks superior is a huge victory for Microsoft. Because those games DO look great.

GashPrex said:
and this isn't some schoolyard where "fights" get settled.

Wow. Is that, uh, really how you read that sentence? Did you read it and say "sounds like a schoolyard fight!" Your first thought wasn't that we're having a discussion that cannot be settled on limited information?

Yeah, you should get that whole reading shit checked.
 
I'm telling you exactly what I believe. If you think Gears of War face actually looks better, that's you're right. I'm telling you, in so many words, that I feel you now have seriously bad taste.

The gears of war shot looks better than the pic of snakes face in just about every way. I dont see whats so artistically impressive about it.
 
Amir0x said:
Why would you even want my opinion now? I expressed a page back why I felt Gears of War face was not quite at Old Snake face level. You can read it if you like, and make some likely failed attempt to be clever in response.


Are you deliberately acting like a bit hostile tonight?

This has been the closest to an explanation of you and it consists of dumb bashing of yours. Everything else has been just pure people bashing. Naturally I wanted you to be civile and explain it a bit further. It would be ok if you just said that snake has a more appealing look... but no instead you were bashing people back and forth.

"
No. Because you're wrong, end. Gears of War face looks like an impersonal, pathetically jingoistic, UE3.0 spoon-fed design that is not only inferior to the Old Snake on a detail level (however "slightly" you may deem it), but is inferior on an artistic level. It's as simple as that."
 
Jesus, GoW looks good. MGS4 looks good. RE5 looks good. DMC4 looks good. They all look about on par visually with each other. Let's see how they animate, but it's all artistic choices and we could argue this until Hell freezes over.

Personally, the amount of bloom lighting in GoW bothers me, but it isn't that big of a deal. I'm interested to see MGS4 in motion since Kojima said they were concentrating on physics, not graphics. GoW will hopefully have its animation cleaned up before release. The sad thing is that you have to have both systems to get all these games, and that will cost around $1000 before all is said and done.
 
TheDuce22 said:
The gears of war shot looks better than the pic of snakes face in just about every way. I dont see whats so artistically impressive about it.
direct feed hd pic vs. a scan of a mag.
the otacon face looks better than both
 
why are we hating on amir0x again? mgs looks fucking awesome. the faces look amazing. hate on me too while your at it

by the way;
<----- xbot360
 
op_ivy said:
why are we hating on amir0x again? mgs looks fucking awesome. the faces look amazing. hate on me too while your at it

by the way;
<----- xbot360

Naw, he is just getting 'hated on' because of his attitude. He is bringing this on himself.
 
Amir0x said:
This is so silly. Art is a HUGE part of the visual appeal of a title. To try to ignore the giant part it plays is silly, and not even worth trying. How appealing the visuals are is DIRECTLY related to what direction they take.


KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK,

Hell-O... MCFLY

Of course art is huge part of it. No one is saying that it isn't. The point is, one man's trash is another man's treasure. By it's very nature is subjective, and you're trying to assign some empirical scale to it. That's fine, just understand that it applies to you; and don't troll others who might disagree with you.
 
No mention of Perfect Dark Zero, aye? Wonder if that means it's not launch anymore, or if it's just not one of the titles they're spotlighting for Japan (certainly a possibility -- give Kameo some time to shine).
 
rastex said:
I've been thinking very seriously about this for a while now, a place where people who LOVE games could talk about them. Not people who love TO talk about games where it's just arguments for arguments sake, trolling, divisions, alliances and all sorts of ridiculous and petty garbage. A place where mainly positive opinions are given and negative points are done in a constructive manner with intelligence.

But I think the truth of the matter is that trolls are very active posters who bring LOTS of content, and lots of content is what brings people to forums. Though when the trolling gets to this level of absurdity it starts having a negative impact and drives people away. That's why there's always some leeway when it comes to forums, but the mods here have just totally let it get out of hand.

How are the SomethingAwful gaming forums? Their free areas have some great content on them.

I think, honestly, it's all about the mods. When people starting pathetically going back and forth like in this thread they should just pull out the warning/ban stick and get to whacking. Maybe that's something I should look into creating myself.
 
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