There is no ignorance about it, not everyone lives in the gaming forum bubble that you do. Not everyone gives a shit about forum list wars. Not everyone bases their enjoyment of games on whether or not they are exclusive.
You're obfuscating the point by hurling insults.
The people who frequent Neogaf know a lot more about the behind-the-scenes of video games than other gamers. It's true.
But once again, you're arguing for ignorance and that doesn't help what you're saying.
We're talking about real value, not perceived value. You're arguing that the 360 had real value, but only because people perceived it that way through ignorance.
It's not about list wars, either. I wasn't talking solely about numbers of exclusives.
I mentioned practices. Microsoft charges the gamer to play the multiplayer portion of their games. In the case of Halo 3, I was also subjected to mode lockouts until I purchased the DLC maps. I thought that was unfair. I paid to play team slayer and was told I couldn't play it until I paid more money.
And you're still talking about exclusives and multiplats as though I'm arguing that one is better than the other.
What I was arguing was that a multiplatform games (if running comparably the same on other platforms) don't really provide any additional value to a console so they don't factor into it.
Again, there's a whole lot more stuff I said before, not regarding games but regarding subscription models, shoddy hardware manufacturing, and shady business practices like bullying small studios and paying for timed exclusivity. This was all in the OP post as well, but I guess you chose to ignore it.
You're also forgetting how many of the 3rd party games ran better on the 360, a good while. Not to mention that system didn't apply mandatory updates and installs, which took forever. And your also forgetting how Sony didn't support the PS3 that well in the beginning of it's launch. Bad online, lack of quality software and 3rd party exclusivity. Because of this, a lot of people turn to the 360. They've done a great job improving their library lately and the ps4 looks even better.
I do agree, MS titles have been growing stale lately but the 360 has given me a great run. I've enjoyed playing games since i've had it and now it is the time to retire.
Lets hope MS has something good cooked up for the next gen.
I'm not forgetting it. In fact, what I'm remembering is that many of the major third party support that the 360 received was still through multiplatform games like Mass Effect and Bioshock, which later went to the PS3.
As for the installs and updates, yes they are annoying. They're also completely innocuous issues not worth mentioning because they don't hamper the quality of the PS3 at all.
Sony's initial support for the PS3 could have been better. I'm not sure how that matters now. Ultimately, we saw where Microsoft went with their console and we saw where Sony went with theirs.
