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Whatever Happened to Penny Arcade?

So seems like both the audience and, to some extent, the creators kind of moved on. I thought maybe something else besides dickwolves happened that killed their popularity.
 
This is when their art looked best:

Wow, different strokes I guess, but this looks rough to me. Weird "cut-out" effect, smudgy lighting brushes over the linework, very static expressions which call to mind "Family Guy", the whole thing is just rough. I feel like he's improved a bunch.
 
Web comics are so last decade.

I stopped reading ages ago (along with most web comics) before they had their last style change where everyone looked like pre-teens. It's just not something I find an interest in reading anymore.

You must not have been reading good Webcomics methinks, there are dozens of good ones, but I will say that staying up to date with them is the biggest issue with them.
In my case, I need to catch up to Unsounded, I think the plot is nearing the end and I've been away from it for a year now so there ought to be much covered by now.
 
Definitely the art style.

When the noses started to get shaped like beaks being pointy and red I started to lose interest. Looking at it now it feels like things are slowly getting more exaggerated in a way, but hey if the artist is happy with it so be it.

But it killed my desire to read these.
 
My two reasons:

1. Not a fan of their more recent art style (and by recent I mean the last 4 or 5 years.)
2. I just don't find it funny anymore. I dunno if I changed or they changed, but I think the comic just isn't that funny anymore.

I used to love them back in the "I smolder with generic rage" days, though.
 
I was a huge fan of theirs for a couple of years, but then I stopped caring for them. I don't think I've visited their site for months now. I used to have it bookmarked, but I deleted it.

Reasons?

I know one of them has said some fucked up things on several occasions. That certainly was a reason.

Also, I have felt that they are biased against some of the stuff that I like. Why visit them if they're just gonna insult stuff that I enjoy (and not even in a funny way).
 
I can't speak for perception/relevance of PA as a whole, but for me personally (like several other people in this thread) they pretty much lost me at dickwolves.

I still go take a look every once in a while, but I generally don't find it funny in the same way I used to. Maybe it's me, maybe it's them; it's probably a combination of both. In general though, any comic strip that needs multiple paragraphs of an accompanying news post to explain the joke is not doing what it's supposed to.

Also not a fan of the most recent art style. Middle period was the sweet spot for me.
 
So many awful things happened that I forgot they existed until this thread was created. I think the last time I read one of their comics was 2011.
 
My two reasons:

1. Not a fan of their more recent art style (and by recent I mean the last 4 or 5 years.)
2. I just don't find it funny anymore. I dunno if I changed or they changed, but I think the comic just isn't that funny anymore.

I used to love them back in the "I smolder with generic rage" days, though.


They became fathers. Hard to be internet edgelords when loving children sand off those edges.
 
You must not have been reading good Webcomics methinks, there are dozens of good ones, but I will say that staying up to date with them is the biggest issue with them.
In my case, I need to catch up to Unsounded, I think the plot is nearing the end and I've been away from it for a year now so there ought to be much covered by now.
Many people's concept of a webcomic is "assorted gags about video games", and that style of webcomic has fallen out of popularity. Two gamers on a couch doesn't cut it anymore.
 
I guess their current art style could be worse:

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I largely outgrew it. I don't keep up with the minutiae of games enough anymore to "get" most comics without googling, and I don't find gaming webcomics as entertaining as I used to in general.

Just stopped caring. I will say that I had a rather bad experience on their forums- some of those people are just nasty and take out their real world problems on strangers.

The worst people on a forum I've ever been to. I pitied most of them at first, and then when I saw how they turned their anger and frustration outwards I just left.
 
There was a turning point, probably like six or seven years ago now, where the focus of PA stopped being the comic and became about PAX entirely.

Watch the Penny Arcade reality show. It pretty clearly shows that the comic has become something that Mike and Jerry rush out during their lunch break so they can get back to ping pong and office pranks. Their heart isn't it in anymore because it's no longer their main source of income, and it shows in their work.
 
They're still around and still very popular, especially PAX, but their time in the sun is over. I don't think it has anything to do with their controversies, it's just that controversy no longer gets them the massive amounts of attention and goodwill like in the past. It doesn't help that the strip is more miss than hit these days. I still check em out fairly often though.
 
For me, the comic got stale when it took a heavy focus on table top stuff, parenting, and their side stuff like The Lookouts. And now the art is god awful. It looks like such an obvious love letter to Ren And Stimpy I sort of can't stand it.
 
Strictly in terms of just their comic, they're kind of like The Simpsons: they pioneered the media, and now they're still around, having more misses and hits.

It's definitely an apt comparison. The thing is, most comics that are based around comedy struggle to stay funny after 10 years, much less 20 - just as most comedies on TV struggle stay consistently funny after just five years. I highly recommend folks watch the documentary "Stripped", it's mostly about newspaper strips but it goes into web-comics as well. One commonality amongst the creators is that when you're strip becomes long in the tooth, it can be very, very difficult and tiring to come up with a genuinely hilarious, fresh joke 3-5 times a week.

And with Penny Arcade, you pile on top of that the fact that it's grown into an entire multi-media empire, which means Mike and Jerry have about six thousand other things they're constantly working on outside of the actual comic.

But losing it's edge is not exclusive to Penny Arcade by any stretch. Like, Foxtrot is one of my favorite comic strips of all time, and it's been going nearly 30 years now. Do I think it's as funny now as I did when I was a teenager? Hell no - nor would I expect it to be.
 
I turned my back on PA when they killed the community threads. Splintered off with a bunch of the people who used to populate the Xbox 360 community thread. That forum eventually died and I washed ashore here. Haven't left.
 
They stopped being relevant. They used to have their finger on the proverbial pulse of the industry. They really don't anymore.

And it has gone through multiple awful artstyle changes. It's really unappealing to look at.
 
The PA forums were great, once upon a time, back before they switched to Vanilla forums. I spent years there. After the switch though, there was a mass exodus and now all that remains is a smallish core group of people that can be very insular from time to time. I honestly don't think gaf is any better and is often times much worse but I've mostly switched from PA to gaf for the community size alone.
 
Just stopped caring. I will say that I had a rather bad experience on their forums- some of those people are just nasty and take out their real world problems on strangers.

Garbage people, generally. I still have an account but don't post. The forum admin once made a promise to donate to Child's Play if the forum met some goal and then he backed out of it. Banned a bunch of people who called him out on it.



The new art style reminds me of Toby from Unico.
 
The PA forums were great, once upon a time, back before they switched to Vanilla forums. I spent years there. After the switch though, there was a mass exodus and now all that remains is a smallish core group of people that can be very insular from time to time. I honestly don't think gaf is any better and is often times much worse but I've mostly switched from PA to gaf for the community size alone.

Yeah, this is the large issue. Most of the moderators are names I recognize has having been posters there since 2005 or earlier. It's super insular. They will seriously push away newcomers for not getting injokes that come from an old game thread that isn't even in the forum database anymore.
 
Honestly? They got old. You start a webcomic in your early 20s and by the time you're in your 40s? The well is dry. How many video game three-panel punchlines can you churn out before you run out of material?

They're doing a million other things now. The comic is mostly vestigial.
 
I turned my back on PA when they killed the community threads. Splintered off with a bunch of the people who used to populate the Xbox 360 community thread. That forum eventually died and I washed ashore here. Haven't left.
Oh 360arcadians are gone? Haven't kept up, didn't know. I drifted elsewhere as well at that time.
 
I feel bad that I read enough Mega Tokyo to recognize the characters in that image above.

You must not have been reading good Webcomics methinks, there are dozens of good ones, but I will say that staying up to date with them is the biggest issue with them.
In my case, I need to catch up to Unsounded, I think the plot is nearing the end and I've been away from it for a year now so there ought to be much covered by now.

It was either a bunch of video game comics or geeky ones and I agree it became too much of a chore to keep up with. GPF was probably my favorite of the period because of the involved story lines that sprung up from its very meager beginnings. I know the guy still updates it too and the art has remained relatively consistent throughout, but there's just too much going on that catching up would take far too long than I'd want to invest.
 
What a drag it is getting old
"Kids are different today, "
I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day
 
They became fathers. Hard to be internet edgelords when loving children and off those edges.

I think it's kinda cool to have followed them for so long that now they're playing games with their kids. I still enjoy their viewpoints and news posts, I check the site three times a week, an old habit. I'd agree the strip itself probably isn't as funny as it used to be, but it's always at least worth checking out IMO.
 
I understand not being a fan of the new art style, but it's not "bad". It's just different.

This is when their art looked best:
Case in point. I'm not a fan of this style at all. It's very stiff and sterile.

I read every single comic for years and years.

Nothing really happened so much as I just kind of got out of the habit of reading it. I don't really read any other webcomics either, save for every time I remember Oglaf exists.

More or less my take on it. I just dropped out of the habit. I don't really follow any web comics nowadays though.
 
Gabe can't really draw consistently and neither of them are really that into the modern landscape as much as they were when they were younger.

Nowadays it's just a brand that they keep around for the convention and the charity.
 
Yeah, this is the large issue. Most of the moderators are names I recognize has having been posters there since 2005 or earlier. It's super insular. They will seriously push away newcomers for not getting injokes that come from an old game thread that isn't even in the forum database anymore.
Yeah. It used to be a really open and welcoming place with reasonable mods. I still miss the old PA forums.
 
I really don't like how different they look IRL compared to the characters in the strip. I know that's stupid, and it shouldn't bother me.

But it does.

Other than that I still read occasionally. Never visited the forums, have no idea about their political views or whatever. don't care either.
 
Here's one of their most recent strips. With this quality it's no wonder VG cats ate their lunch.

It originally wasn't censored either.

They're still pretty great and their empire is as big as ever. They're busy running multiple conventions, making board games, doing streams of games, hosting other comics, and so on. They've become a lot more than just their strip and Tycho's news posts.

Also, this thread is funny, especially the art criticisms, considering a recent comic they did:
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Need one of these with the in-between artstyle (~2015?) making fun of the current one.
 
It's pretty clear that they're focused on all the non-comic stuff they do these days - PAX, podcasts, D&D, Child's Play, etc. Couple that with the fact they're getting older and raising kids and they've grown away from the "mainstream" of gaming culture when it comes to their comics. To each their own.

I don't really hold any ill will against them. They've said some pretty dumb stuff over the years but I get the impression they're trying to learn about the things they've screwed up on - or at least learn what they don't know enough about to talk about.
 
I feel like an old man thinking of all these old webcomics because of this thread. I miss 'em! Not any of the drama around them, but the comics themselves haha. I loved A Modest Destiny and Ctrl Alt Del especially. Haven't read CAD in years after the change in direction.8 Bit Theater, VGCats... fun stuff.
 
What a drag it is getting old
"Kids are different today, "
I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day

Her life life ticks away on the grandfather clock
And the hand on it looks like an alligator cock
lol.
 
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