Barrylocke
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I imagine looking into indepth all time lists would be good for old ones. For new ones, I guess it's a matter of reading preview synopsis's and taking a gamble.
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What's the deal with anime?
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I imagine looking into indepth all time lists would be good for old ones. For new ones, I guess it's a matter of reading preview synopsis's and taking a gamble.
Finaika
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Who does this guy think he is?
FO-totality
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Ask for suggestions?
BinaryPork2737
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John Kowalski
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if you think that's bad you should meet some sayaka x madoka people i swear to god they are sin walking upon this holy land
Anime is cool, but I do think some people get too obsessed with it to the point that it's embarrassing. But I don't think it makes sense to ignore the medium just because it has a lot of whack fans.
I enjoy checking out good animes. And by that I mean I seek out shit that's highly regarded or recommended to me, same as I do with TV shows and movies. There's garbage in every medium or entertainment and I personally do my research so I don't end up wasting my time consuming garbage. I think the anime medium is great because it has a lot less limitations in terms of length (eg. long story arcs with a lot of character development) and visuals (don't need to spend millions on CGI to have awesome fights/explosions/craziness). And I don't speak Japanese, but I love most of the Japanese voice acting I've heard in anime, to the point where I only watch subbed stuff. It just seems so much more expressive and effective.
I enjoy checking out good animes. And by that I mean I seek out shit that's highly regarded or recommended to me, same as I do with TV shows and movies. There's garbage in every medium or entertainment and I personally do my research so I don't end up wasting my time consuming garbage. I think the anime medium is great because it has a lot less limitations in terms of length (eg. long story arcs with a lot of character development) and visuals (don't need to spend millions on CGI to have awesome fights/explosions/craziness). And I don't speak Japanese, but I love most of the Japanese voice acting I've heard in anime, to the point where I only watch subbed stuff. It just seems so much more expressive and effective.
I didn't start watching anime again until last year, but I've been mainly using this list http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=&limit=0 and going through the top stuff. That and GAF has had some good recommendation threads that you can search for. Other than that I guess just seek out the genres you like.
heliosRAzi
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No, because Korean and Chinese shows aren't considered anime. Probably just because japanimation sounds kinda stupid.
The fact that you, of all people is asking this makes me proud for some reason.
I will never reach your level, sensei.
FO-totality
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Those are blantant edits, though admittedly their bases are Key-blobs that definitely on the far end of the scale.
Miyazaki, the Ever-Trolling.
A good show is a good show. I'll not turn my nose up at anime just like I won't turn my nose up at western animation, sitcoms, dramas, or whatever.
Some is shit. Some is good. Some is great. Some is mediocre.
Now, in general, I enjoy the freedom that anime provides. The medium provides flexibility. Stuff like Hunter x Hunter would look awful live. Slice of life anime involves teenagers mostly. Most teenagers are shitbox actors and actresses, so animation works.
To summarize: idgaf ayyyy its just anime b o y s
Some is shit. Some is good. Some is great. Some is mediocre.
Now, in general, I enjoy the freedom that anime provides. The medium provides flexibility. Stuff like Hunter x Hunter would look awful live. Slice of life anime involves teenagers mostly. Most teenagers are shitbox actors and actresses, so animation works.
To summarize: idgaf ayyyy its just anime b o y s
DoktorEvil
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Neff
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Oh there was a ton of crap anime from those decades, but I think there's something unique about Japan's relatively insular anime culture during that time. It changed forever once the rest of the world found out about it, and lost something in the process. There's a sincerity and creativity (which partly came with the more modest budgets and lack of commercialism compared to today) in older anime which is more endearing to me. I'd rather watch a bad old anime than a bad new one anyday.
victreeb3l
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You should check out Aldnoah Zero, Sword Art Online (especially the first half of second season) and Black Bullet. They have great action, complex and well developed characters and some of the most engaging storylines in the medium.
Miyazaki, Tomino, Shinji Hashimoto...etc...
To OP...think of it like comic books culture in the US.
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Chairmanchuck
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I would say it is some kind of an own medium just as Korean, Taiwanese, Japanese dramas are almost an own medium with own standards.
The kind of which stories are told in Anime is still different from how they are told in western media quite often.
What I think nowadays is, that anime itself didnt change that much (though a lot of pandering happens), but the market is a different. Just from my anecdotal experience, when I started reading manga and watch anime in the end of the 90s beginning for 2000s, we got all the 80/early 90s anime here. And I would say the people watched more mature anime. The same could be said about manga in Germany during that time. The good selling one besides things like Dragonball or Ranma were mature/Seinen manga like Eden - Its an endless world, Blame and similar ones. Then something changed in like 2003/2004 when more people got access to the internet. I would say the demographic became younger and what was selling then was Shounen-stuff and a little while after that the "moe"-stuff besides Yaoi-stuff.
And then you got the "weaboos", that actually dont know really many anime, but get invested in the whole "fan-cutlure", plastering their room with chinese-made wallscrolls, they buy at a convention, try to convert anyone by telling them anime is for adults while watching Naruto, use japanese phrases when they talk, listen exclusively to japanese music etc.
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The kind of which stories are told in Anime is still different from how they are told in western media quite often.
What I think nowadays is, that anime itself didnt change that much (though a lot of pandering happens), but the market is a different. Just from my anecdotal experience, when I started reading manga and watch anime in the end of the 90s beginning for 2000s, we got all the 80/early 90s anime here. And I would say the people watched more mature anime. The same could be said about manga in Germany during that time. The good selling one besides things like Dragonball or Ranma were mature/Seinen manga like Eden - Its an endless world, Blame and similar ones. Then something changed in like 2003/2004 when more people got access to the internet. I would say the demographic became younger and what was selling then was Shounen-stuff and a little while after that the "moe"-stuff besides Yaoi-stuff.
And then you got the "weaboos", that actually dont know really many anime, but get invested in the whole "fan-cutlure", plastering their room with chinese-made wallscrolls, they buy at a convention, try to convert anyone by telling them anime is for adults while watching Naruto, use japanese phrases when they talk, listen exclusively to japanese music etc.
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Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!
Do not watch any of these shows.
FO-totality
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A lot of people have serious nostalgia goggles when it comes to older shows. I'm not saying shifts in the markets and demographics haven't occurred, but a lot of people forget, or don't realize, there was still a ton of garbage released back in the day too, especially if they're western fans who would've had a very limited scope on what was being show to them. You see a lot more shit now because it's a lot easier to get a hold of the worse or niche shows, imo.
There are still tons of great shows being made out there but, there's still this stigma that a lot of people can't get past. Which is unfortunate, because there are some really amazing works that have been released in even just the past couple of years.
"Anime" is just a word for animation.
Animation is awesome. It just so happens that Japan produces a lot of it.
I... er... no. Just.... NO.
I can't comment on Black Bullet but absolutely do no watch SAO or Aldnoah Zero, both are trash.
Animation is awesome. It just so happens that Japan produces a lot of it.
I... er... no. Just.... NO.
I can't comment on Black Bullet but absolutely do no watch SAO or Aldnoah Zero, both are trash.
themagicalkitsune
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Me and Miyamoto are now friends.
The Silver
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damn, those are some good animes to make someone swear off them for good.
throw in some School Days.
victreeb3l
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This made me laugh my ass off for some reason
DoktorEvil
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Transhuman
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You can't outfox a fox effingvic.
Can you not do "this" - and by "this" I mean recommending shows you and everybody else knows are shit :/
-_- I disagree. A lot.
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What you probably see as "anime" is an ever changing medium in terms of art. I'm not a fan of many older shows because of the state of the art, but in recent times I have come to like it a little more.
This actually goes for western animation at the moment. I love a lot of current shows.
This actually goes for western animation at the moment. I love a lot of current shows.
Anime has a collection of tropes that crop up more often in that medium which some are drawn to. All media have that to a certain extent, the concentration of tropes just gets stronger and more refined the more specific you are about medium, country-of-origin, genre, format etc.
Twilight Gap
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first step to enjoying and understanding anime is to ignore everyone else's opinions. the appeal largely depends on what you find interesting, and it wildly varies from person to person.
DoktorEvil
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I feel the same way regarding Naurto and I bet the kids today would say the same about Fist of the North Star and DBZ.
Heartwarming!
Chairmanchuck
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Sadly the problem is the majority of fans are not really big fans. I mean Attack on Titan...
I would recommend you Tatami Galaxy, Monster, One Outs, Kaiba, Uchouten Kazoku, Mushishi and maybe Casshern Sins.
The problem is, that the ones who are calling themselves fans are often, in my experience, the ones who do not have that much knowledge about anime and just watch "the favorite popular show of the season".
FO-totality
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To address the OP: I watch anime because it provides me with types of shows that other mediums don't provide. Western animation is mostly just family friendly shows or adult comedies, and while I enjoy some of them, I find a lot of their animation to be kinda lacking, and would like to be able to watch more serious, focused, animated dramas that generally look a lot more pleasing than Western stuff. I also like that most shows have a story to tell and have a limit, more or less, to tell it. I can't really get into live-actions shows that are popular because the seem kinda too open ended and not prepared to tell a concise story. At least, that's my perspective. It's probably really biased and uninformed about somethings, but I'm always open to amending my views.
Finaika
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Hollywood is nothing without anime.
SAO was the giveaway that this was a troll.
Unfortunately someone might take it seriously and make a huge mistake.
I've hated almost every anime I've tried to watch, but I know there's at least one or two shows out there I'd enjoy. Just a matter of finding them. I rarely make it past the second episode before realizing it's not for me. Death Note and the Persona 4 Anima have been the exceptions for me. Oh, and I watched that show where people turn into monsters when they get turned on. That was weird.
I watched a full season of that racist-ass cockroach anime. That was so absurd and terrible.
I watched a full season of that racist-ass cockroach anime. That was so absurd and terrible.
I'm not sure I understand the question, we could say what's the deal with comic books but that doesn't mean comic book fans are a monolithic entity that follows everything. You just follow what you want from a specific medium and the outsiders of that medium decide to label you as an "anime fan", "comic book fan", etc.
At least in my case, I started watching anime because it wasn't as formulaic and timid in it's themes as western animation, also the artstyle is pretty eye catching.
Of course, that changed and now lots of anime shows are even more formulaic than western animation but you can still find jewels among the crap if you follow the medium closely.
At least in my case, I started watching anime because it wasn't as formulaic and timid in it's themes as western animation, also the artstyle is pretty eye catching.
Of course, that changed and now lots of anime shows are even more formulaic than western animation but you can still find jewels among the crap if you follow the medium closely.
I assumed Attack on Titan wasn't for kids because of all the blood and guts, and general people-getting-massacred vibe it gave off, but the quality of its writing said otherwise.
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