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What's the worst Zelda game?
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I agree.
nckillthegrimace
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I'm glad you asked. Typically these games are linear and you acquire tools in a set order. Since you get the items in a set order, the game designers know exactly what you have at all times and can design the puzzles and dungeons around that. So, naturally, the further you get in the game, the more complex it gets because there are potentially more items you need to consider. That doesn't even take into account that you may need to use different combinations of items in sequence.
Conversely, ALBW has a more open structure. Thus, you can have an combination of items at any time. The game stupidly accounts for this by putting a giant sign with one item on it outside each dungeon. And that's the one item you need to use in that dungeon. You know that saying, "When you only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail?" That's the dungeon design. Just use the item on the sign and you'll get it right away. That's shaving off a great deal of complexity. And all of the dungeons are like that. They never get more complex. It's a totally flat puzzle curve, and it's completely unsatisfying.
If you come to Zelda for dungeons and puzzles (which you might not, I guess, if you're weird), then it is a complete and utter failure.
I haven't played ST in like seven years, but I'm not sure what you're talking about with the signs. I remember them being fairly complex, and really enjoying the sand dungeon in particular.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Phantom Hourglass, by far. The controls were annoying, but the central dungeon was just awful. One of the worst design decisions in a major game ever.
Still haven't played Spirit Tracks (it and Tri-Force Heroes are the only ones I haven't played), but it can't possible be worse.
Also, fuck Skyward Sword haters. That game is so good.
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Still haven't played Spirit Tracks (it and Tri-Force Heroes are the only ones I haven't played), but it can't possible be worse.
Also, fuck Skyward Sword haters. That game is so good.
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I pretty much agree with this. Zelda 2 isn't bad... it just isn't all that amazing to me, either. It's not something I ever yearn to go back and play again sometime like I do with a lot of the other games in the series. The other two games mentioned would probably follow Zelda 2 for me. I don't really dislike any of the main Zelda games but there are some that I just don't really want to go back to.
Ruud_Luiten
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Majora Mask; I hate timers...
Spieler Eins
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Wind Waker trilogy.
Trigonometrize.
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Reported to the authorities. Original Zelda is the BEST Zelda.
Laughing at the people calling Zelda 2's controls bad when in actuality they are perfect. The entire game is a masterpiece compared to the unbalanced, technical mess that is Mega Man 2 people love to hold up as the golden boy of NES action games.
Zelda 1 was groundbreaking for its time, but with it so thoroughly surpassed by its successors, there's not much reason to go back to it. Like Monster Hunter 1, it's worth checking out as a piece of gaming history, but you'll just wish you were playing one of the much better designed games in the series the longer you play it.
Zelda 1 was groundbreaking for its time, but with it so thoroughly surpassed by its successors, there's not much reason to go back to it. Like Monster Hunter 1, it's worth checking out as a piece of gaming history, but you'll just wish you were playing one of the much better designed games in the series the longer you play it.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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You play Phantom Hourglass?
Never liked the co-op stuff in some Zelda titles and having a whole game based around it just doesn't work for me. Four Swords > Triforce only because the story in FS is better and it can be played alone without being horribly tedious.
For console it's going to be Skyward Sword. Loved it my first time through but it's the only console Zelda I have never been able to beat more than once. It's a tough go playing it all again but it does have its' high points, it's just the lows are worse than any of the others.
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the goddamn Oracle games (the only one I've played is Oracle of Ages, but I can't imagine Seasons being much better). My God, they are so freaking boring and repetitive.
On a side note, I actually liked Phantom Hourglass quite a bit, and it's one of my favorite handheld Zelda titles (that and it was also my first Zelda game).
On a side note, I actually liked Phantom Hourglass quite a bit, and it's one of my favorite handheld Zelda titles (that and it was also my first Zelda game).
Thorwaldsson
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Probably Sprit Tracks. For me it feels like the furthest stretch in terms of narrative. Basically the more mind gymnastics I have to do in order to get on board with an idea or setting in a game the less I'm going to like it.
That given, Sprit Tracks is a really, really good game still. Worst Zelda game would be a bloody medal for the vast majority of games released from most AAA studios out there.
Edit: I've decided that my first ever thread on Neogaf is going to be an RTTP for Skyward Sword, or maybe all of the Zelda games (has been down I know, I still wanna do it). Now all I need is to become a full member... at this rate I should be done by late 2025.
That given, Sprit Tracks is a really, really good game still. Worst Zelda game would be a bloody medal for the vast majority of games released from most AAA studios out there.
Edit: I've decided that my first ever thread on Neogaf is going to be an RTTP for Skyward Sword, or maybe all of the Zelda games (has been down I know, I still wanna do it). Now all I need is to become a full member... at this rate I should be done by late 2025.
MaybeBurger
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I couldnt finish the train one on DS.
Blackquill
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Sad to see Skyward Sword mentionned so much. I loved the controls personally but that's understandable if it doesn't please to everyone
AppleSeason
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Skyward Sword, no contest. It's never been that easy to answer this question. To this day, I refuse to call it "Zelda". And the controls weren't the problem, just everything else.
PS: Fuck your tadtones.
PS: Fuck your tadtones.
crazy monkey
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Skyward sword is worst 3d one i agree. Still better than many games but we are talking Zelda games so bar is high.
Oni Link 666
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I want to know if people saying anything besides Spirit Tracks have played Spirit Tracks.
Supermanisdead
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Skyward Sword
Edit: I've played spirit tracks and phantom hourglass, SS is still the worst.
Edit: I've played spirit tracks and phantom hourglass, SS is still the worst.
SpaceCadetKeon
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Of the ones I've played, Spirit Tracks. Haven't played Phantom Hourglass, but touch screen controls to make Link move AND attack? Yuck.
I would say either Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword. Those are the only main Zeldas I haven't finished yet because of how boring they get at times. Painfully long intros with silly tutorials and lot's of handholding and annoying quests that are not enjoyable at all. Praying to the gods all of that would be gone on Zelda UNX.
Purple Cheeto
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Skyward Sword or Ocarina of Time.
Cow Mengde
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I already did. Link's Awakening is in the same category.
I just remembered Minish Cap. That's a different level suck. More like wasted potential and lackluster dungeon design.
Yeah, if only Zelda 1 really was surpassed by any of its successors, that would have been nice. It's kind of sad that it's actually still the best.
Eyemus Lutt
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Spirit Tracks is the Worst.
Twilight Princess is the best.
Twilight Princess is the best.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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Either Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks, and that control scheme alone would be enough to do it. With Skyward Sword's controls you can at least understand the choices they made with the controller, but with the DS games I can't fathom why using the stylus to move and attack seemed like a good idea. Everything else in those games just cements the placement. Of the two, I don't know which one I'd choose. Probably Spirit Tracks, just because the trains destroyed any ability to explore the world. At least Linebeck's ship let you sail around wherever you wanted.
Twilight Princess is my least favorite and I think it's a huge piece of shit, but at least the game controls well.
I hardly played any Triforce Heroes, so that's the only one I can't comment on.
Twilight Princess is my least favorite and I think it's a huge piece of shit, but at least the game controls well.
I hardly played any Triforce Heroes, so that's the only one I can't comment on.
brickarts295
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Gameplay wise, Skyward Sword. I guess its fair to mention that I have not played the DS games, but I have played the 3DS games.
Spirit Tracks is the worst for me. First Zelda I ever quit without finishing. The lqck of real overworld exploration really dampened my enthusiasm for this game. Strangely, I really liked Phantom Hourglass, I think the ocean gave an illusion of exploration that the train track system just couldn't.
bobawesome
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This, word for word.
Linkstrikesback
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Easily the DS games. Having movement be entirely touch controlled was downright stupid with few if any benefits.