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What's up with Theater Wide?

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akachan ningen said:
I don't see why so many people still use 2.35:1. Isn't 1.85 wide enough? It's like they're thinking "ooh, the wider it is, the more cinematic it is and therefore the better it is!"

1.85 is basically 16:9. the difference is tiny. I wish 2.35:1 was the standard for tvs today.
 
I love the clarity and resolution that you get when you view content shot at 1080p on a 16:9 1080P screen. Although 2:40:1 is great for the theater, I'm starting to selfishly wish directors would use 16:9 more often so the Blu-ray image is as high resolution as possible.
 
big_z said:
1.85 is basically 16:9. the difference is tiny. I wish 2.35:1 was the standard for tvs today.

When images are getting beamed directly onto our retinas at resolutions higher than 4k, aspect ratio will be a moot point.
 
DarkJC said:
While a 2.35:1 film had pretty massive bars on a 4:3 screen, they're not nearly as big on a 16:9 screen.
Basically 2.35:1 on a 16:9 screen will have as much black as viewing 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen does. Each jump is an increase of about a third in width.
 
Seeing as at least half of all my viewing is movies, i would give my left nut to have a native 2.35:1 screen in my front room.

I think 16:9 is the optimum for TV and sports viewing however.
 
Solo said:
Fair enough, perhaps I read incorrectly. It always irked me that Raimi changed ratios. Im big on continuity, and while I prefer the 2.40:1 that he shot 2 and 3 in, Im of the mind that if he shot the first film at 1.85:1, he should have continued that way. Im sure 80% of people watching never notice anyways, but Im a stickler for visual continuity like that.

He decided to switch to 2.35 for the sequel because of Doc Ock, he wanted to have as much room as possible in the frame to show him off and his arms.

As for the varying aspect ratios, there are TONS of movies in 1.85 and TONS in 2.35. There are also lots of films shot in 1.33. Basically anything before 1954 will be 1.33, such as Citizen Kane, Wizard of Oz, Casablanca, etc. Spielberg shot a lot of his films at 1.85, such as Jurassic Park and Schindlers List, but he uses scope (2.35) for things as well, such as Indiana Jones and his older films. Certain directors have preferences.The reason for HDTV spec chosing 1.78 as the ratio is because it was the happy medium between all the varying aspect ratios. When you watch old tv and film you get slight bars on the sides, while 2.35+ films you get black on top and bottom. There is no catch all screen size for everything.

I am surprised you people havent started complaining about Ben Hur which is in a 2.55:1 aspect ratio. Even on an HDTV the bars are massive.

As as for everyone wanting things in 16:9 only, get your priorities straight. The film you are watching is the most important part, and however said director shoots it, you should watch it at that. Do you chop up a painting to fit it into your frame? No, of course you dont.
 
FTWer said:
Fun fact, this is how they get "Theater Wide" into 4:3 TV's & what you're missing.
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what movie is this?

and don't mention
the shining
in the thread, or else prof. lobo will be driven insane. :o
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Basically 2.35:1 on a 16:9 screen will have as much black as viewing 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen does. Each jump is an increase of about a third in width.

Except, I was talking about viewing 2.35:1 content on a 4:3 screen...
 
That's why projectors are the way to go if you're a die-hard movie lover. The prices of HD projectors has really come down in the last couple of years.

HD Projector + do-it-yourself screen + do-it-yourself anamorphic lens = Unparalleled movie watching experience for a fairly low price.

/weeps in memory of his old set up
 
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