Seems like a business model for failure(Quality wise, not money wise). Only the cream of the crop gets to survive long enough to get a proper ending. Though I see the games industry moving in the same direction. Instead of making the next great game. Publisher/Developers are wanting the next great franchise.Patryn said:
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When will America start adapting Asian dramas?
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I've watched a lot of j-drama and more than a few seem like comical takes on western movies (though most of these j-drama are based on manga).
like, Kekkon Dekinai Otoko is basically As Good As It Gets. Great Teacher Onizuka is Stand and Deliver. Dragon Zakura is Billy Madison or whatever.
I realize this is an asinine statement because those western movies are probably based on older works, but still.
like, Kekkon Dekinai Otoko is basically As Good As It Gets. Great Teacher Onizuka is Stand and Deliver. Dragon Zakura is Billy Madison or whatever.
I realize this is an asinine statement because those western movies are probably based on older works, but still.
People comparing them to soaps makes me think they just haven't watched dramas.. :-/ Do I just have a strange view of what a soap is?
Either way, I wouldn't want the US to start making adaptations of these shows. I'd honestly prefer them to come up with something original themselves. :-/
Either way, I wouldn't want the US to start making adaptations of these shows. I'd honestly prefer them to come up with something original themselves. :-/
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I will punch you in your dick.-_-ChiTownBuffalo said:
TheKaeptain
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Mainstream America doesn't like original. That's why all TV is written the sameway.Ronok said:
Technosteve
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2San said:
Straight to video? Fuck this world, =/
TheKaeptain
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It's not horrible. It's not good either.Technosteve said:
MisterHero
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Ultraman Tiga was a failed experiment
TheKaeptain
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Asian Drama and English TV have a good formula.
24 episode a season can be a drag for some shows.
24 episode a season can be a drag for some shows.
polyh3dron
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Remake of a Japanese movie which was adapted from a Japanese book.
Technosteve
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CaptYamato said:
i'm not watching it, it would spoil the memory of my waifu
DonasaurusRex
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wasnt GTO a live action drama in japan? i would love to see that....but at this stage of the game i know it would be too unplausible....meh maybe in a purely private school in the US it would still be...
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You know they made a prequel right?Technosteve said:
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ugh that was the one i meant to put upZoe said:
i knew it had dance in the title
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2San said:
The problem isn't that American shows don't run long enough to get an ending, it's that the ones that get good endings are forced to keep running for years after their good endings. They keep on truckin' until they have outstayed their welcome and declined sharply in quality. They almost never end on a high note.
The second biggest problem is the 20+ episode season, which forces the writers to come up with stupendous amounts of filler. 12 is a good length for a season IMO.
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As much as I would like to see it attempted, I know it probably won't be because Asian dramas are coherent and designed to end in 9 to 13 episodes (JDramas).
For example if 'Prison Break' was an Asian drama, it would have ended once the guy got out and not go on for 3+ seasons and '24' would have gone 22 (The premiere and finale would be 2 hours each) episodes across 2 seasons (Fall and Winter) and would have been followed up with a movie and that would be the end of it.
Chances are, if It can't be milked, it won't make it to air.
For example if 'Prison Break' was an Asian drama, it would have ended once the guy got out and not go on for 3+ seasons and '24' would have gone 22 (The premiere and finale would be 2 hours each) episodes across 2 seasons (Fall and Winter) and would have been followed up with a movie and that would be the end of it.
Chances are, if It can't be milked, it won't make it to air.
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Cartman86 said:
Very true. But I think the idea of doing a 13-16 episode show would appeal to alot of mainstream actors, especially the big ones. They don't have to commit themselves to a long stretch. I don't know, maybe I'm putting to much faith in actors/actresses who love their craft. Obviously if you're a struggling/new actor you probably want to score the big role and yeah you'll get lots of money in syndication. Watching a few Korean dramas now, I like this approach a little more. You won't feel so paranoid as a fan of a new show, because you'll know the show you're investing time in won't cancel two or four episodes into its run. You'll get an ending at least.
I'll take two cute girls and some girly looking guys over a girl with softballs glued to her chest and two guys with the same face.maruchan said:why? their already far superior "dramas", i.e novelas on telemundo, and univsion with english subtitles if you want to watch..
i rather watch this..
than this
And Asian dramas aren't soap operas, not even close. They are completely different in style and stories. "Drama" is kind of a catch-all term since they use the word drama to encompass anything that follows this episode format, many "dramas" are actually comedies, romance, horror etc.
ElectricBlue187
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I saw a bit of Korean historical drama while waiting in the checkout line at Don Quixote. I don't know if it was a good one but it was pretty mindnumbingly stupid.
Forkball said:
Exactly, "Drama" just means a short run live-action television series that is not reality tv/sketch comedy/game show/or news.
I think it would be great if they were brought over to the US, even as adaptations, however I doubt it would work, because most dramas have a gimmick. Not saying US shows don't have a gimmick, they all do, but the gimmicks in many Korean and Japanese dramas may seem a bit more contrived than the average US viewer is used to.
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Because the vast majority of them are just downright awful and even on network television, they wouldn't find even a remote audience worth capturing.
The hesitation is due to the fact that every network knows it's not a venture worth any while. The only audience that exists for it are the weeabos, and they won't watch it because they can't marathon the fuck through it.
The hesitation is due to the fact that every network knows it's not a venture worth any while. The only audience that exists for it are the weeabos, and they won't watch it because they can't marathon the fuck through it.
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bluemax said:
Oh, hey. Mine too.
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RevDM said:
Damn you for making me laugh out loud in a coffeeshop!
TheKaeptain
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That second poster is magical.
I disagree.ThoseDeafMutes said:
As an American, I find one of the most frustrating things about watching TV from, for example, Britain, is that there's not enough of it. The seasons are, at best, half as long as a season of an American show. The argument for that, of course, is quality over quantity. For the shows I've seen though (not many, to be fair), you get the same ups and downs in a 13 episode British series that you'd get in a 26 episode American series. There's just less of it. A fantastic season of Doctor Who, for example, isn't substantially better than a fantastic season of Star Trek.
And now you are starting to get seasons that are INSANELY short. Doctor Who is only like 12 or 13 episodes this time around, and there's still a large break between the first half of the series and the second half. AND we have to wait two weeks between the last two episodes of the first half for some reason.
Sherlock's first "series" was only THREE EPISODES. To be fair they're more like TV movies than actual episodes, but you still run into the same old problem of inconsistent quality. The first and third episodes were great, the second one was just okay.
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Its called The Big Bang Theory.XiaNaphryz said:
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america -> asia -> america?
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RevDM said:not till we do indian action flicks first..
Epic
And to the OP, no thank you. Asian dramas are good because they are culturally relevant. Hollywood can't even adapt British dramas to Amrerica... I cringe at them trying to do a Korean one
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Htown said:
Because you don't notice a lot of what building less episodes on a similar budget does for a show.
Sure, Star Trek has a bigger budget, but look at the episodes, so many of them are ship-based and use standings sets, while with Doctor Who, the only consistent standing set is the Tardus. A lot of their shows are done out in the field, which costs more money, but it's money they can spend because they don't have to produce a lot of episodes while still having a decent sized budget.
There's no clip shows in Doctor Who. Why? Because they don't need to. Clip shows exists to save money for later episodes. They're cheap filler episodes to make, in order to free up money for a bigger episode.
More money equals more specials, more real locations, more guest appearances, etc etc. And it means the writers and directors have more room to play with in terms of creativity.
I'm from HK, and I fucking hope no one else sees the quality of dramas we have here and in mainland China, that shit is pretty embarrassing.
Very few are alright, like the historical ones, but most of them are still stuck with using CG technology from like 10 years ago which sticks out like a sore thumb.
Below is some from Three Kingdoms, I think it is alright, but still don't feel like they're at the level of shows like Game of Thrones or something of that caliber.
Lu Bu vs. Three Brothers
Very few are alright, like the historical ones, but most of them are still stuck with using CG technology from like 10 years ago which sticks out like a sore thumb.
Below is some from Three Kingdoms, I think it is alright, but still don't feel like they're at the level of shows like Game of Thrones or something of that caliber.
Lu Bu vs. Three Brothers
We used to watch these all the time in Japanese class. Going by those, at least, I can't see how they could be that popular over here. Can't speak for Chinese or Korean shows, but the Japanese shows were very feel-good, very conventional shows.
I do like their talk-show format, though. Those were fun to watch.
I do like their talk-show format, though. Those were fun to watch.
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