RustyNails
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What? They're the same thing. Except they appeal to their respective countries' demographics' tastes and interests.Zoe said:
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When will America start adapting Asian dramas?
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BlueWord said:
This is largely the problem with trying to adapt Japanese dramas for an American market. The content and focus isn't compatible at all. There are a lot of interesting premises and stories in Japanese dramas but doing a straight adaptation would fail horribly most of the time.
RustyNails said:
Come on, I expected better of you. They are not the same, it's just an appropriation of a word we have in our language to have a different meaning in another - quite common.
Suzu said:
Not all genre, but it is much more encompassing than our definition of the word.
wikipedia said:
It basically says that dramas are an art form that tells a story though the acting of stage characters, and that in everyday conversation, when people say 'drama' they often mean 'TV drama'.
wikipedia said:
So looking up TV Drama, it basically says that they are film works that paint a fictional world and primarily use TV as the means do so. A TV Program.
Don't get our word drama confused with their word drama, they have different meanings.
Shouta: Yeah, they definitely wouldn't be able to be brought directly over.
Hobs said:Below is some from Three Kingdoms, I think it is alright, but still don't feel like they're at the level of shows like Game of Thrones or something of that caliber.
Lu Bu vs. Three Brothers
The new adaptation of Romance of the Three Kingdoms is awesome, but it shouldn't be compared to Game of Thrones. For one, it's a pretty direct adaptation of a 700 year old novel. Two, it's around 90 episodes and has a much larger scope/way more characters than GoT, so it has a comparatively tiny budget (plus Chinese dramas already have tiny budgets compared to American and British productions).
Anyone vaguely interested in Romance of the Three Kingdoms should check it out. Yeah, the battles are cheesy, the CG is bad, the writing is antiquated and at times can be cheesy, but it's so awesome for what it is; a completely in-depth adaptation of the novel, which is a masterpiece and anyone who is interested in history should experience.
RustyNails said:
No they are not. Asian dramas actually have some sort of a greater overarching plot, and have self contained stories written with a resolution in mind. Soap operas are intended to last forever until the audience gets sick of it.
Having watched both, I prefer korean/chinese dramas. They have less of a feeling that the plot is actually made up as they go. You are always assured that the story is always working its way onto some final conclusion.
I'm not shitting on Three Kingdoms 
, my reason for saying it is "alright" is because I enjoyed the way more cheesier 1994 version due to nostalgia. Sometimes I wish I had never seen the old version so I can accept the portrayals by these new actors.
You're right though, it is not fair to compared it to Game of Thrones, but still, my point is that nothing they ever produce has the quality that you get from American shows.
But then like you said, since every series they make has to be 40-50+ episodes nonstop, can't really expect it to great quality.
I think they did a pretty good job with the latest adaptation of "Water Margin/Outlaws of the Marshes/Suikoden" though, and can't wait for the new Journey to the West one... which was supposed to air in April.
Fuck, I'm such a hypocrite, Chinese shows are awesome.
Whoa, I just checked, Game of Thrones cost like $50-60million just for season 1, Three Kingdoms had $15million for the WHOLE series. Also just read the thread title, I guess I'm missing the whole point of this, sorry haha.
, my reason for saying it is "alright" is because I enjoyed the way more cheesier 1994 version due to nostalgia. Sometimes I wish I had never seen the old version so I can accept the portrayals by these new actors.You're right though, it is not fair to compared it to Game of Thrones, but still, my point is that nothing they ever produce has the quality that you get from American shows.
But then like you said, since every series they make has to be 40-50+ episodes nonstop, can't really expect it to great quality.
I think they did a pretty good job with the latest adaptation of "Water Margin/Outlaws of the Marshes/Suikoden" though, and can't wait for the new Journey to the West one... which was supposed to air in April.
Fuck, I'm such a hypocrite, Chinese shows are awesome.
Whoa, I just checked, Game of Thrones cost like $50-60million just for season 1, Three Kingdoms had $15million for the WHOLE series. Also just read the thread title, I guess I'm missing the whole point of this, sorry haha.
RustyNails said:
The weeaboos just deny it so that they can keep thinking their glorious Asian "dramas" are much deeper and thoughtful than your average American soap POS.
That said, there's some OK series here and there but even in its best form it is not much more than throwaway entertainment. TVB used to have some good shows back in the early 90s/late 80s but now it's mostly all shit. And I won't even talk about all the Japanese and Korean crap, that shit is downright embarrassing. My ex-GF once made me watch the entirety of that popular series with Rain and I still haven't recovered from it.
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Htown said:
A fantastic season is a fantastic season, it's just that a fantastic season of star trek has filler episodes that are crap and gets you clip shows or bottle episodes to save money. Having fewer episodes to work with means you cut the fat and distill the show down to its bare essence. It doesn't waste my time. Wanting more is natural, but if the "more" isn't going to be the same high quality, then it's worthless.
N.B. Shows that are terrible become concentrated terrible with fewer episodes, but at least it wastes less of your life that way.
Apple Sauce
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This thread needs more names for me to check out. Particularly horror or maybe comedy dramas.
I'm going to check out Iris.
I'm going to check out Iris.
Enosh
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wait what?Forkball said:
I tried many times to watch HK films, like this three kingdoms thingy, but I just can't stand the "look how I dodged that sword/spear/arror" and the god damned wire fuHobs said:I'm from HK, and I fucking hope no one else sees the quality of dramas we have here and in mainland China, that shit is pretty embarrassing.
Very few are alright, like the historical ones, but most of them are still stuck with using CG technology from like 10 years ago which sticks out like a sore thumb.
Below is some from Three Kingdoms, I think it is alright, but still don't feel like they're at the level of shows like Game of Thrones or something of that caliber.
Lu Bu vs. Three Brothers
simply not for me
Zoe
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RustyNails said:
Soap operas are low-budget, filmed and broadcast daily, ongoing serials that last for years upon end. There are many threads within a series with plotlines hardly planned in advance. They also have the tendency to cycle out actors within the same role. The tone is rarely anything other than melodramatic.
Asian dramas are short, contained series with a set plot. The budgets are probably akin to something SyFy or USA would put out. They can be anything from dramatic, comedic, period, or even horror.
Edit: forgot, soap operas are almost always filmed on closed sets. Asian dramas do location shots.
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Hell, the US can't even properly adapt Iron Chef. And they've tried twice!Blackace said:
I don't care if anyone thinks the current Iron Chef America is decent, they've changed the format enough that I don't think it compares
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XiaNaphryz said:
There is a new Iron Chef?
XiaNaphryz
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There was the Shatner attempt and then the current one running on Food Network.CaptYamato said:
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XiaNaphryz said:
How could one forget this?
Considering Asian primetime dramas are heavily serialized, they wouldn't work for the western market at all. Audiences here are way too fickle with short attention span. Not to mention the fact that they are usually one season deal, the networks can't milk them. Totally different way of running things.
Zoe said:
I disagree. Shows that do well year after year are not heavily serialized ones. In fact, they are often the ones that are in danger of getting cancelled. I'm sorry, but the basic structure of Asian dramas are fundamentally different than western shows. In terms of how they are conceived and produced. They don't constantly come up with scripts and shoot month to month. They don't have to worry about renewal. Not the same at all.
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I'd rather see Korea embrace a Flavor of Love-style show.
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