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When you like thick/curvy people but...

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Izuna

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They hate that about themselves.

"I wish I had skinny legs," or "My ass is too fat".

If only they saw themselves the way we see them. This is the true atrocity of society.
 
if society at large felt like you did then this wouldn't be an issue. people shouldn't need to learn to love themselves.
 
I think that curvy is the single most useless descriptor for a person. I've seen girls ranging from straight up skinny to morbidly obese call themselves or get called curvy.
 
It's hard being in a relationship when you're attracted to that kind of figure when society is doing their utmost to tell them that there's something wrong with carrying a bit of extra weight (I'm not talking about obesity as that's an entirely different issue). I can't begin to imagine the mental drain my GF must go through on a daily basis.

And even then you start to doubt yourself and be like "why do I get turned on by these kinds of women when there are perfectly good 'healthy' people out there". I feel like I'm made to believe that these people are monsters of some sort and by associating with them makes me as bad as these "monsters".

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Yeah, I hope you understand what I'm getting at.
 
If only they saw themselves the way we see them. This is the true atrocity of society.

I guess I'm the one wrong person in this thread but I think people should achieve to look like they want to. And I don't believe for a second that everyone who wants to be skinny is a brainwashed zombie looking to be saved from the pressure of fashion culture. If she wants skinny legs and a small butt, why should she conform to what "the society" wants of her? I mean if it was the other way around (wanting thick women to be skinny), it'd be really shitty wouldn't it? So what's the difference, assuming health is not at risk?
 
It's hard being in a relationship when you're attracted to that kind of figure when society is doing their utmost to tell them that there's something wrong with carrying a bit of extra weight (I'm not talking about obesity as that's an entirely different issue). I can't begin to imagine the mental drain my GF must go through on a daily basis.

And even then you start to doubt yourself and be like "why do I get turned on by these kinds of women when there are perfectly good 'healthy' people out there". I feel like I'm made to believe that these people are monsters of some sort and by associating with them makes me as bad as these "monsters".

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Yeah, I hope you understand what I'm getting at.

I dated a girl who went from thick to wearing UK size XS. It was only then that she knew I weren't kidding when I said I liked her figure.

"You do you".

It's a shame because "oh you're just saying that" is the only solace a fine girl can have without bordering on overconfidence in this society.

Skinny or nah, it's a shame girls especially aren't brought up to know that people aren't lyin' when they have preferences.
 
I guess I'm the one wrong person in this thread but I think people should achieve to look like they want to. And I don't believe for a second that everyone who wants to be skinny is a brainwashed zombie looking to be saved from the pressure of fashion culture. If she wants skinny legs and a small butt, why should she conform to what "the society" wants of her? I mean if it was the other way around (wanting thick women to be skinny), it'd be really shitty wouldn't it? So what's the difference, assuming health is not at risk?

If they can't love their bodies, for as long as it ain't a serious threat to their health, they're brainwashed. Skinny girls also have this problem when they don't think they're skinny enough.

You're such a gentleman.

Kate > Catherine
 
If they can't love their bodies, for as long as it ain't a serious threat to their health, they're brainwashed. Skinny girls also have this problem when they don't think they're skinny enough.

Does this mean that wanting to be fit means that you're brainwashed?
 
Then encourage them to diet and workout to achieve whatever their arbitrarily goal is.
Being repeatedly told you're perfect when you want change is annoying.
Don't let your preference or fetish get in the way of their happiness.
 
It's hard to tell what someone means by thick/curvvy without reference pics.

Don't post reference pics though.
 
tell her,

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The 2 women I've dated this year are curvy/fat whatever the right word is and neither are very self-conscious about it, both confident, flirty and talkative etc.

But whenever they brought it up they would obviously express a wish to be slimmer, go to gym etc. and I would be confused, as I like them how they are.
 
if somebody wants to have a different body shape and it's within their means to accomplish it, then you shouldn't deny them that opportunity just because you happen to like how they look now. Your opinion isn't more important than theirs.
 
if somebody wants to have a different body shape and it's within their means to accomplish it, then you shouldn't deny them that opportunity just because you happen to like how they look now. Your opinion isn't more important than theirs.

This isn't about denying what they want to work at, it's about how the compliment just can't be taken sincerely because "beauty standards"

Also, for context, it's bad when it's >99% of people hate their perfectly fine, healthy body.
 
This isn't about denying what they want to work at, it's about how the compliment just can't be taken sincerely because "beauty standards"

Also, for context, it's bad when it's >99% of people hate their perfectly fine, healthy body.
It's not about "beauty standards".
At least don't always assume that, the US has a 40℅ obesity rate for women, let's not pretend all females are starving themselves.
As someone who lost weight despite my partner always telling me I look perfect, I can unequivocally state that it made me happier and feel better. I didn't do it because Vogue told me to.
 
This isn't about denying what they want to work at, it's about how the compliment just can't be taken sincerely because "beauty standards"

But what if it's not about beauty standards and just because they want to look different? People not liking your compliments and them not changing what they want for themselves doesn't mean that they're brainwashed.
 
It's not about "beauty standards".
At least don't always assume that, the US has a 40℅ obesity rate for women, let's not pretend all females are starving themselves.
As someone who lost weight despite my partner always telling me I look perfect, I can say unequivocally state that it made me happier and feel better. I didn't do it because Vogue told me to.

Let me clear up, I am not talking about obesity.

I fear there's too much devil's advocate for a problem everyone knows about.
 
The 2 women I've dated this year are curvy/fat whatever the right word is and neither are very self-conscious about it, both confident, flirty and talkative etc.

But whenever they brought it up they would obviously express a wish to be slimmer, go to gym etc. and I would be confused, as I like them how they are.
If people want to exercise, don't discourage it. Not everyone wants some actually unhealthy magazine body type. If there's something they want to improve about themselves, they should, it helps with mental health. Telling they look great or talking them out of it because that's your preference or fetish seems selfish.
 
This isn't about denying what they want to work at, it's about how the compliment just can't be taken sincerely because "beauty standards"

Also, for context, it's bad when it's >99% of people hate their perfectly fine, healthy body.

I think you have a completely wrong read on the situation. A healthy person wishing she's more fit is not because she thinks she's unhealthy, but because she recognizes she could do better, and because of social competition. Consider for example olympic athletes—merely making it to the olympic events is an amazing accomplishment, but that doesn't stop them from trying for gold.

And if you compliment someone for something that they're trying to change, of course it's going to not be taken sincerely. That's just plain insulting.
 
If people want to exercise, don't discourage it. Not everyone wants some actually unhealthy magazine body type. If there's something they want to improve about themselves, they should, it helps with mental health. Telling they look great or talking them out of it because that's your preference or fetish seems selfish.

Fetish?

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I think you have a completely wrong read on the situation. A healthy person wishing she's more fit is not because she thinks she's unhealthy, but because she recognizes she could do better, and because of social competition. Consider for example olympic athletes—merely making it to the olympic events is an amazing accomplishment, but that doesn't stop them from trying for gold.

And if you compliment someone for something that they're trying to change, of course it's going to not be taken sincerely. That's just plain insulting.

Let me give you an example then. You meet up with a person, with the pretence of dating, and you say "you look great (too)." Then you hear "I hate my body I wish I were skinny". It's a pandemic, because it's every damn time.
 
Not everyone likes what you like, OP. Not everyone looks in the mirror and thinks, well, I'm perfect, nothing needs to be done here at all.

If a "thick" person wants to lose some weight and change their body, more power to them, they deserve the body they want to see in the mirror, there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Let me give you an example then. You meet up with a person, with the pretence of dating, and you say "you look great (too)." Then you hear "I hate my body I wish I were skinny". It's a pandemic, because it's every damn time.

But why are they wrong and you right? Why is your opinion on their own body more important than theirs?
 
If you don't like your current body, do something about it instead of moaning all the time over the years with no change. Get that look, as long as it's a realistic goal. It's only a problem when you're going through an eating disorder to achieve the look you're seeking. Avoid unhealthy looks like a thigh gap, too.
 
But why are they wrong and you right? Why is your opinion on their own body more important than theirs?

I never said any of these things...

The undertone that certain looks are achievable for everyone is troubling to me.

That fact that "skinny" is the de facto "improvement" is an issue.
 
How about instead of telling people how they should look like, we let them look however they want and give them mental support if they have to work for it? (with moderation of course, I wouldn't give mental support to someone complaining about not being obese enough).
 
But why are they wrong and you right? Why is your opinion on their own body more important than theirs?

The essence of the complement is simply to encourage the recipient that Cobalt sees value in something they don't. I don't think Cobalt or anyone is attempting to force anything on the person they're complementing.
 
I never said any of these things...

The undertone that certain looks are achievable for everyone is troubling to me.

That fact that "skinny" is the de facto "improvement" is an issue.

I just don't get why you think it's an issue that someone wouldn't want to be thick.

It's akin to someone wanting to be "thick" and you telling them that they're just brainwashed by instagram and skinny is actually beautiful.

If someone wants to be thick or skinny and they want to work togethers one or the other, it's on them and not you to decide what is best.

The essence of the complement is simply to encourage the recipient that Cobalt sees value in something they don't. I don't think Cobalt or anyone is attempting to force anything on the person they're complementing.

Is it much of a complement when you're telling them that they're brainwashed for wanting to change their body? Seems more like an insult than a compliment.
 
no one gives a shit what you think about their body and I can't begin to imagine how obnoxious this must sound to most women
 
If a woman asks you what you think about her body don't tell the truth and don't lie and don't say anything at all.
 
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no one gives a shit what you think about their body and I can't begin to imagine how obnoxious this must sound to most women

You wouldn't tell a girl you find her attractive, in any situation?
 
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