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[jesu]

1)James Brown
2)Stevie Wonder
3)Ella Fitzgerald
4)Jimi Hendrix
5)Aretha Franklin
6)George Clinton
7)Sly Stone
8)Marvin Gaye
9)Bob Marley
10)Tina Turner

Is Kanye a proper legend or just another flash in the pan?

 

[daviyoung]

he doesn't

 

[Nibel]

Nope

If he would focus on music instead of fashion he might end up in the top 25 or something, but as of right now? Nooope

 

[Champagne]

He's obviously up there but of course you'll have plenty of "hurr durr gay fish" "burr autotune" "hurr no talent" garbage in this thread.

His run of albums from College Dropout to Yeezus are the stuff of pop legend at this point, and he's not finished yet.

 

[deli2000]

Kanye has no talent because real music is played by white people with guitars.

 

[Aureon]

I.. don't quite get with what criteria that list is made, honestly?
Greats of what? pop? music in general?

Kanye has no talent because real music is played by white people with guitars.

What?
If there's one thing black people hardly ever have been negated, it's music.

 

[Peanut0423]

He's up there.

Graduation and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are in the top 20 albums of all time for me.

 

[jesu]

He's obviously up there but of course you'll have plenty of "hurr durr gay fish" "burr autotune" "hurr no talent" garbage in this thread.

His run of albums from College Dropout to Yeezus are the stuff of pop legend at this point, and he's not finished yet.

Will he be remembered as a legend like my top ten though?
I didn't even include hip hop stars.
I doubt he would make it into a hip hop top ten.

Kanye has no talent because real music is played by white people with guitars.

Read the op.

 

[toastyToast]

Not a flash in the pan but he's not bumping anyone from that list.

 

[JordanKZ]

he doesn't

Kind of where I stand on things. He's clearly talented, but among the 'greats'? Hah, not a chance.

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

Why is Bob Marley on your list op?

 

[Hip Hop]

Isn't this comparing apples to oranges?

I mean, I'm not a big fan of the genres up there, so those people wouldn't be anywhere near my "list".

 

[jesu]

1 The Beatles
2 Bob Dylan
3 The Rolling Stones
4 David Bowie
5 Bruce Springsteen
6 Radiohead
7 Elvis Presley
8 Neil Young
9 Prince
10 R.E.M.
11 The Beach Boys
12 U2
13 Led Zeppelin
14 The Who
15 The Velvet Underground
16 Marvin Gaye
17 Jimi Hendrix
18 The Clash
19 Kanye West
20 Elvis Costello

Why no James Brown?

 

[jesu]

Why is Bob Marley on your list op?

Because he's a proper Legend.
Would you not include him?

 

[BocoDragon]

I like Kanye a lot. And yet this question makes me cringe. He would have a hard fight amongst other rappers or pop stars, let alone the "greats".

I'll put him on the list of "I like him", but I wouldn't dare rank him in a top ranked list of anything.

 

[Ryaaan14]

Kanye West is the Michael Jackson of this generation.

 

[jesu]

Not my list. This is a list of the twenty most acclaimed artists of all time.

Acclaimed by who?
Is there some science behind that list?

 

[Ostinatto]

Don't know any of his songs. but i know everyone from that list. so no.

Spoiler

Im not from the states.

 

[jesu]

Kanye West is the Michael Jackson of this generation.

Kanye is not a child molester.

 

[Carl2291]

Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston and Beyonce would all probably be on that list before him. And that's just 3 names off the top of my head.

In 5 to 10 years time? Who knows.

 

[Grinchy]

Maybe someone near the bottom of the top 1000.

 

[Ryaaan14]

Kanye is not a child molester.

Allegedly.

 

[Gr1mLock]

Why no James Brown?

Where's Curtis Mayfield, Al Green, Nat King Cole, Bill Withers, Ray Charles, B.B. King on YOUR list hmm?

 

[Anas]

with that much of an auto-tune lately..
i don't think so

 

[jesu]

http://acclaimedmusic.net/

I like lists like that even if I don't agree with them hah!

 

[Dilly]

Kanye has no talent because real music is played by white people with guitars.

Not only is this a silly statement to make because black artists are very valued, considering the OP exists purely out of black musicians really makes it even worse.

I will never understand the fascination a lot of GAF seems to have with Kanye West and trying to rank him among the all time greats. Same for that "generation defining artist" thread.

 

[jesu]

Where's Curtis Mayfield, Al Green, Nat King Cole, Bill Withers, Ray Charles, B.B. King for YOUR list hmm?

I know, Curtis at least should be there.
I just found it weird James Brown wasn't in that big list.

 

[deli2000]

Read the op.

I was making a dumb joke about yesterday's Glasto performance.

 

[Dilly]

I was making a dumb joke about yesterday's Glasto performance.

Wouldn't be the first time someone made that statement though.

 

[Disgraced]

Acclaimed by who?
Is there some science behind that list?

Even if there is it's a list that was made by the music industry.

 

[zorlaczerohero]

1 The Beatles
2 Bob Dylan
3 The Rolling Stones
4 David Bowie
5 Bruce Springsteen
6 Radiohead
7 Elvis Presley
8 Neil Young
9 Prince
10 R.E.M.
11 The Beach Boys
12 U2
13 Led Zeppelin
14 The Who
15 The Velvet Underground
16 Marvin Gaye
17 Jimi Hendrix
18 The Clash
19 Kanye West
20 Elvis Costello

Kanye doesn't hit that shit until somewhere around 450. Do people really think he is more important in Hip Hop than Ice T, NWA, Run DMC, Public Enemy etc? He isn't. He's a cunt with a platform and good publicists.

 

[You Know Nothing]

Guys, deli2000 is clearly being facetious.

As to the OP's question, he's up there definitely.

 

[daviyoung]

Where's Curtis Mayfield, Al Green, Nat King Cole, Bill Withers, Ray Charles, B.B. King on YOUR list hmm?

And Sam Cooke!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28tILqie1o

 

[Champagne]

Will he be remembered as a legend like my top ten though?
I didn't even include hip hop stars.
I doubt he would make it into a hip hop top ten.



Read the op.

Name me a rapper with a better discography.

Spoiler

You can't

 

[jesu]

I was making a dumb joke about yesterday's Glasto performance.

You get some decent non white people playing guitars at glastonbury.
But admittedly they are in the minority.
Mavis Staples was great, better than Pharrell at least.I was switching between them.

 

[deli2000]

Seriously though, I think he's in the top 100 easily. People forget how influential College Dropout was on the pop rap landscape when it came out. And he's been riding a wave of critical and commercial success for like 11 years now. Love him or hate him, that's impressive.

 

[jesu]

Name me a rapper with a better discography.

Spoiler

You can't

lol where to begin.

let's start with N.W.A.

Or do they not count because they're a group?

 

[itsgreen]

Not?

 

[Champagne]

lol where to begin.

let's start with N.W.A.

Or do they not count because they're a group?

You're seriously deluded if you think the totality of their material is even close to the consistent quality and influence of Kanye's.

 

[neorej]

He doesn't.

He's not even the best West.

 

[daviyoung]

Name me a rapper with a better discography.

Spoiler

You can't

This is where people list a bunch of better/more influential/more profitable (insert metric here) rappers and then you say:

"well, name me a producer with a better discography"

for the goalposts are constantly shifting with Kanye fans

"ok, well name me a rapper with more expensive merchandise"

 

[Hatchtag]

You're seriously deluded if you think the totality of their material is even close to the consistent quality and influence of Kanye's.

I wouldn't say Kanye has god-like consistent quality, unless we're in an alternate dimension where 808s doesn't exist.

 

[Hip Hop]

Kanye doesn't hit that shit until somewhere around 450. Do people really think he is more important in Hip Hop than Ice T, NWA, Run DMC, Public Enemy etc? He isn't. He's a cunt with a platform and good publicists.

lol where to begin.

let's start with N.W.A.

Or do they not count because they're a group?

Is this like an old school vs "new school", where the new stuff totally doesn't matter because it's not good and Hip-Hop died in the 90's sort of thing?

serious question.

 

[Champagne]

I wouldn't say Kanye has god-like consistent quality, unless we're in an alternate dimension where 808s doesn't exist.

808's is his most important work dude.

Seriously look at the hip-hop landscape in the 2010's.

That shit has 808's influence plastered all over it. That album birthed Drake's career.

 

[Gr1mLock]

And Sam Cooke!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28tILqie1o

And the Four Tops!

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

Because he's a proper Legend.
Would you not include him?

No, Bob Marley songs are OK, I guess.

 

[thefro]

He'd be high-up on the producers list

His albums have done well both critically and commercially.

He's not the most talented MC or the best live performer, so he'll come up short there compared to others.

 

[Hatchtag]

808's is his most important work dude.

Seriously look at the hip-hop landscape in the 2010's.

That shit has 808's influence plastered all over it. That album birthed Drake's career.

I'm not denying it had influence. I even like a lot of the things its influenced (Drake's career, Kanye's post-808s albums). I just think it's a shitty album.

 

[Tablo]

Probably not but when I listen to Kanye, esp first two albums, I feel it's pretty damn special

 

[daviyoung]

And the Four Tops!

And Smokey Robinson!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNS6D4hSQdA