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Which games has bad sequals?
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RickSanchez
Gold Member
I see a lot of people mentioning Forbidden West and TLOU2 as bad sequels, even when they have improved every technical and gameplay aspect over their predecessors, better more fluid exploration, better combat, hugely improved visuals, QoL/accessibility improvements. The only thing that is polarising about them is the story, which is subjective. I personally find that the story was better in the first installments of both, but the second games make enough improvements such that they feel better to play; hence i would consider both of them superior sequels.
God of War Ragnarok is different for me because i feel it does not make any critical mechanical improvements upon GoW2018. It feels like a sequel made in the exact same engine with some noticeable visual improvements, that's it.
God of War Ragnarok is different for me because i feel it does not make any critical mechanical improvements upon GoW2018. It feels like a sequel made in the exact same engine with some noticeable visual improvements, that's it.
EverydayBeast
ChatShitGPT Alpha 0.001
It's amazing how many sequels suck.
Starbuck2907
Member
While not "bad", the sequels to F.E.A.R. were not nearly as good as the first.
DemonGamerTTT
Member
Parasite Eve.
The first was a amazing masterpiece with a very interesting characters and story, the second one is a travesty.
The first was a amazing masterpiece with a very interesting characters and story, the second one is a travesty.
cartman414
Member
The poo brain is strong in this one.
Completely ignoring the existence of DOOM or System Shock?
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
The Ark had some cool parts about it, but it doesn't come close to all the NYC landmarks of the first game.
Trogdor1123
Member
I've never actually played it. What is so bad about it?
Trogdor1123
Member
Agreed on Majora. Worst Zelda by far
DemonGamerTTT
Member
The gameplay change was the worst IMO.
Davevil
Late October Surprise
Excuse me? LOL
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
Well it surely didn't feel as epic as the original, having to go through the same areas over and over again felt like a chore and the story didn't connect with me. The original is in my top 3 FFs of all time.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
I should've seen this thread earlier. 'Worse' is not enough to describe that mess. Random encounters spawning out of nowhere in a real time action game? Wtf they were thinking? I will probably skip it.
Loke
Member
Pretty sad just how after each installment the quality went down pretty significantly. F.E.A.R. 2 felt bland and uninspiring with somehow worse combat compared to the first one and F.E.A.R. 3 was just Call of Duty with limited horror elements. I actually prefer Extraction Point and even Perseus Mandate over both of them.
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
The Famicom Disk System version is way better. US version was made much harder, though palaces were better in that version, I still prefer it to OG Zelda.
Zacfoldor
Gold Member
Horizon Forbidden West
1. Dumpy Aloy got fatter and uglier
2. She also became a complete asshole
3. The game also didn't change much after the first game besides being a bloated mess and I expected the game to be revolutionized considering how much the first game lacked in many areas but also how much money it made, I assumed they would build it out and give it a bit of charm or magic or something but no, it's the same boring shit. This was the game that made me realize Sony was no longer interested in improving games or iterating really, rather they just want to pump out the same game over and over again. Also the combat somehow became more tedious so the changes that existed weren't what I would have chosen.
4. The story was so boring but the story in 1 was okay
1. Dumpy Aloy got fatter and uglier
2. She also became a complete asshole
3. The game also didn't change much after the first game besides being a bloated mess and I expected the game to be revolutionized considering how much the first game lacked in many areas but also how much money it made, I assumed they would build it out and give it a bit of charm or magic or something but no, it's the same boring shit. This was the game that made me realize Sony was no longer interested in improving games or iterating really, rather they just want to pump out the same game over and over again. Also the combat somehow became more tedious so the changes that existed weren't what I would have chosen.
4. The story was so boring but the story in 1 was okay
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Zacfoldor
Gold Member
While I enjoyed Zelda II for the music and some of the gameplay, I don't think of it really as a Zelda mainline game in my head, it is so different.
IIRC wasn't Zelda 2 a reskin of some other game that may not have even been a Nintendo game? Seems like they got the idea for Zelda 2 from some other very similar game but I may be going crazy. I'm not sure if that is accurate.
Let me throw in Castlevania 2 Simon's Quest.
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ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
Once again, I was wrong about another Zelda game. I'm having a lot of fun know lol. Never doubt a Zelda game, just play some more.
The_hunter
Member
Force unleashed 2
Pasta la Vista
Member
I actually think Blasphemous 2 is worse than the first so far. I haven't finished it yet though.
It feels kinda janky compared to the original and I'm not finding the exploration as satisfying.
It feels kinda janky compared to the original and I'm not finding the exploration as satisfying.
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existensmaximum
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Mass Effect
Certinty
Member
Marvel's Spider-Man 2 was bad.
- Horrible side content
- Awful story with the last act rushed beyond belief
- Miles has no relevance in the game
- MJ missions no one wanted
- Completely broken at launch
- No post-game content
Could go on and on but a downgrade over the first game in every way besides traversal.
- Horrible side content
- Awful story with the last act rushed beyond belief
- Miles has no relevance in the game
- MJ missions no one wanted
- Completely broken at launch
- No post-game content
Could go on and on but a downgrade over the first game in every way besides traversal.
PeteBull
Member
It went 3d, and was clunky/junky af, here on emulator looking 10x more crisp vs psx, but still its gameplay flaws are clearly seen:
Major Insano
Member
Super Mario Bros 2
As a kid, I was so disappointed with this game. Just the pace of it seemed so much slower than the og.
Learned to appreciate it a bit more later though, but still by far the weakest 2d Mario imo.
As a kid, I was so disappointed with this game. Just the pace of it seemed so much slower than the og.
Learned to appreciate it a bit more later though, but still by far the weakest 2d Mario imo.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Borderlands 3 - atrocious story
Halo 5 - atrocious story
Destiny 2 - a trainwreck that never ends
ME Andromeda - franchise killer
Dragon Age Failhard - franchise killer
Pretty much all modern sony sequels have been a step down from their predecessors
Halo 5 - atrocious story
Destiny 2 - a trainwreck that never ends
ME Andromeda - franchise killer
Dragon Age Failhard - franchise killer
Pretty much all modern sony sequels have been a step down from their predecessors
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Final Fantasy 7
Beretta
Member
TLOU2 still catching strays lol I enjoyed it.
Ghostbusters: Sanctum of Slime
Ghostbusters: The Video Game was a great game, captured everything Ghostbusters I wanted in a game, and then this steaming pile of shit is the follow up. It's totally different and basically is just a bunch of nobodies in Ghostbusters gear with a shit story and shit gameplay. Total trash.
Ghostbusters: Sanctum of Slime
Ghostbusters: The Video Game was a great game, captured everything Ghostbusters I wanted in a game, and then this steaming pile of shit is the follow up. It's totally different and basically is just a bunch of nobodies in Ghostbusters gear with a shit story and shit gameplay. Total trash.
Holammer
Member
I tried B2 and it did not hook me at all. Biggest problem it just keep throwing exposition at you with cut scenes & talking.
Very pretty presentation mind, but it killed the pacing.
Ghost and Goblin has the the right amount of exposition IMO, devil grabs girl. Got it!
Randall365
Member
Kick Off 3 was a pile of shit.
Civ VII too.
Civ VII too.
semiconscious
Member
for me, aside from infamous: second son, every major tent-pole sony single-player franchise sequel (including uncharted 4) for the last 2 generations. none of them unlike, say, uncharted 2, equaled or exceeded their predecessor. that, after 5 years, astro bot is the highlight of the ps5 so far tells you all you need to know...
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TheGrat1
Member
I always find it funny when people people knock TLOUII. The story in the first was so generic and formulaic that I never got invested into it. Executed well, mind you, but the narrative was so filled to the brim with zombie movie tropes it felt like I had ESP every time a cutscene triggered. So Part II "ruining" the story by killing Joel never bothered me. I did not play it for the story anyway. I enjoyed Part I purely for it's gameplay and production values.
Part II has way better gameplay and cutting edge production values so I much prefer it as a game. Ellie being a boss fight was such a cool concept and boss fights in general were done much better.
Part II has way better gameplay and cutting edge production values so I much prefer it as a game. Ellie being a boss fight was such a cool concept and boss fights in general were done much better.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Only counting their first sequel since there would be many many choices if I include all possible sequels for every franchise.
The Last of Us
Fear
Silent Hill - While SH2 isn't bad but it's not as cool as SH1.
The Last of Us
Fear
Silent Hill - While SH2 isn't bad but it's not as cool as SH1.
Gojiira
Member
Fallout 3-4-76…All terrible in terms of story,lore,setting,quest design,rpg mechanics…Bethesda just does not understand Fallout at all hence the trashpile towns, hence the constant lore breaks and retcons. In a vacuum they are fine but utterly inferior as experiences to Fallout 1-2-New Vegas.
phant0m
Member
Funny(?) thing is, of the 5 games you listed the Destiny 2 'trainwreck' is still a league if not several above the other 4.