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Which games have better music: Mario, or Sonic?

Mario just on 64 and Galaxy 2 alone

Mario 64 soundtrack is grossly overrated. There's only a couple of tracks, and even then there's still a few of them I don't like or care for.

However, Mario takes this matchup ridiculously easily.. For all its consistency Sonic has a hard time establishing truly memorable tracks. I play a lot of Sonic, but there's shockingly little music I could start humming or imagine in my head, whereas there's basically dozens and dozens of Mario tracks that are engraved in my head forever.
 
Pluggin my own post here but I put my own sampler with three songs from Adventure, Unleashed, and Lost World. Would love to hear thoughts! Galaxy is easily Mario's best (mainline), but Unleashed puts up a great fight. Same year too ✌️️

It's a good sample list considering how much there is to choose from (especially in Adventure and Unleashed). For Unleashed though I always feel the need to point out those beautiful hub themes; if Galaxy is the ideal soundscape for a space adventure, then Unleashed definitely hit the globetrotting side of the equation perfectly.

Spagonia ~ Night
Holoska ~ Day
Shamar ~ Night

Off that note, I wanted to post these just because they're both great
and it's hot as all cheese right now
. Snowball Park & Snowball Waltz
 
If we're talking 16-bit era, Sonic by a considerable margin. The melodies, harmonies, arrangements, consistency and genre variety were absolutely light years ahead of what Nintendo were doing with Mario games at the time. And I disagree that Mario's highs were higher than Sonic's. The underground theme in Yoshi's Island is undoubtedly top quality and the highlight of the 2D Mario soundtracks, but it can't hold a candle to Chemical Plant, Hydrocity Act 2, Star Light or the Sonic 3 staff roll. The fact that Sonic manages to sound so much better even on a console with inferior sound quality just highlights the gulf in class in composition.

If we're talking 3D games, it becomes closer. On the one hand, I think Crush 40 are absolutely terrible and the "butt rock" direction was a really bad one to go in. The Sonic Heroes theme is just vomit worthy Saturday morning crap. On the other hand, I like most of Sonic Adventure's soundtrack despite their influence, dreadful game though it undoubtedly is. The underground section of Casinopolis, Final Egg and in particular Tikal's Theme are highlights. As for Mario, it was just more of the humdrum same really, Galaxy excepted, which was quality. Even Super Mario 64, which is probably the best non-Galaxy 3D Mario soundtrack, is basically 2 or 3 good tracks and a load of mediocre annoying ones which just repeat throughout the whole game. Mario wins this round marginally for me, but Sonic is still ahead overall.

I'd say so, Mario, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Kid Icarus Uprising, Kirby, F-Zero, Golden Sun, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Xenoblade, Mother, plus more easily surpasses the soundtrack of SEGA games.

It's clear that's my own opinion. Btw, how much experience do you have with everything I mentioned that isn't DK and Metroid?

You probably shouldn't be asking that question when it's pretty clear you know next to nothing about Sega soundtracks yourself.

Shenmue and the Panzer Dragoon series (particularly Saga) have osts that completely annihilate anything mentioned in your first post (and yes I have played them all). It's seriously not even close. And that's not even mentioning the Sonics, Streets of Rage, Jet Set Radio, Virtua Fighter 2, Nights, Rez and countless others.

Nintendo have always made the best games but there are many Japanese developers, including Sega, who have consistently outperformed them in the auditory stakes.

What is lately with SEGA fans desperately trying claim Sonic does something better than Mario..

This is just lolz quite frankly.

In the early to mid 90s the Nintendo fans were at least reasonable enough to argue that "apart from music and visuals, Mario is better than Sonic in every way" (which is 100% true), yet even that's not good enough for your average 2016 GAF reading Nintendo fanboy who insists that Nintetndo have to be the absolute best at absolutely everything at absolutely every moment of gaming history. It's pretty embarrassing some of the revisionist ignorance you read from them in old console wars threads and makes it abundantly clear that most of them have very little experience of games from that era that weren't developed by their favourite company.
 
I feel like Sonic Unleashed by itself has more musical variety than 75% of the Mario series (and it's all really good).

A lot of the "Nintendo" music on my MP3 player was actually made by Sega (like F-Zero GX and Olympics versions of Mario themes). On the other hand, I have six full Sonic soundtracks. The 3D Sonic games are so much more musically diverse than people give them credit for, and even terrible games like Black Knight have some amazing songs.

I don't even like Unleashed much, but that soundtrack is absolutely never leaving my MP3 player.

There's already been so many links in this thread, so I won't add any more, but seriously... if you haven't heard it, listen to the Unleashed soundtrack.
 
They both suit their style very well. Mario is very run, jump, happy. Sonic is very "gotta go fast".

But overall I have to give it to Sonic. The songs get stuck in my head way more often.

But I've learned a few songs on piano, and they're all Mario because they're much easier and more recognizable.
 
Honestly, I keep forgetting that 2006 and Unleashed had pretty amazing soundtracks too. Silver's theme and theViolin (un-butt rocked) version of His World are some highlights. But see, that's what happens you add butt rock to your game soundtrack. They become so obnoxious and stand out sooo much that they're the only things you can remember the game by.
 
2D Sonic wins this by a landslide. Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic and Knuckles, Sonic CD.

3D sonic is full of bad wannabe 90s top 40 radio tracks.

All Mario has is that underground theme with the hip hop beat.
 
They both suit their style very well. Mario is very run, jump, happy. Sonic is very "gotta go fast".

But overall I have to give it to Sonic. The songs get stuck in my head way more often.

But I've learned a few songs on piano, and they're all Mario because they're much easier and more recognizable.

What are we talking about though? Only mainline?

Cause if include Mario Kart, Paper Marios, Mario & Luigis, etc, Mario gets a pretty huge net of diversity
 
They're both great, and although I vastly prefer Mario over Sonic in just about every other aspect, you gotta give credit where credit is due, the music in Sonic is phenomenal.
 
Cool. I hope you enjoy them! =)

Hey. It took awhile for me to find time to sit and listen to the examples you posted.

They're all definitely good tracks. I personally wouldn't put them in the same category as Metroid, Donkey Kong Country or my favourite Sega offerings... aside from Dark Pit... that track was fucking ftantastic, and I can see myself listening to that one quite a lot. I'll have the give the entire soundtrack a listen, as it's possible that the tracks that would be standouts for me, aren't the same ones you'd choose to represent the OST with. But yea, that Dark Pit track is damn good, so thanks for drawing my attention to it.
 
This is the perfect answer.

Mario Galaxy in particular is amazing, Sonic 3D soundtracks are trash.

2D Sonic is amazing and gives me serious nostalgia shivers any time I hear it.
Actually, since Sonic music is far superior to Mario's limited offerings, this thread has shown that such a simplistic answer completely misses the mark.

Mario Galaxy is only one game, from nearly a decade ago. Granted, while it's an important game for the Nintendo fanbase I find it telling that there's a noticeable lack of Mario music being contributed throughout this thread. Barring a few exceptions, it's either Mario Galaxy or bust it would seem, when it comes to defending Mario's musical history.

In contrast, the Sonic franchise has a wealth of music from both 2D and 3D games, covering just about every genre imaginable. That in both quality and quantity Sonic music has well and truly surpassed Mario music.

And just for good measure here's another great piece of Sonic music, Sonic Unleashed's - Dark Gaia Phase 2
 
Dang clearly I'm doing this wrong, I obviously should have said modern Mario music is garbage without actually listening to any of it. "It's all BAH BAH's".
 
Glad to see I'm not alone in liking Sonic Unleashed soundtrack.
 
Dang clearly I'm doing this wrong, I obviously should have said modern Mario music is garbage without actually listening to any of it. "It's all BAH BAH's".

Even still Past/Classic Mario music was still pretty repetitive with few tracks.

An even better example to show how bad Sonic beats Mario in music:

Which has better music?

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There's only a handful of good tracks in Sonic games while there's dozens and dozens of great tracks in Mario games, so it's no contest. Mario is clearly the winner.
 
I really appreciate that any time I think of a Sonic track it has a lot of particular visuals and level design stuff associated with it that come to mind. Mario's music is a fair bit less dynamic in that regard unless you count spinoffs and RPGs, then things even out a bit. Shame Sonic never really had a great RPG.

Unless you just go nuts and count PSO since you can play as Sonic and pals in that technically. PSO's OST is pretty amazing.
 
Does Super Mario RPG count? Because that soundtrack was amazing. I really liked Sonic Adventure 1 on dreamcast's music too though. This is kinda hard...... But overall though including everything from both I think Sonic has this.
 
koji kondo's mario output after mario 3 sounds like music from a game show or some shit. doesn't detract from the games, but i'm not particularly a fan either

edit: Galaxy is godly, though. forgot about that
 
Sonic, easily. Though Mario's recent OSTs (namely the Galaxy games, 3D World, & Mario Kart 8) made the decision a little difficult.

The remixes from the Mario-Sonic Olympic crossovers proves how good Sega is at music.
 
How much experience do you have of Sega's 80s/90s arcade, Sega Saturn and Dreamcast titles?
I'll admit that's fairly limited. Although i've listened to the music of pretty much every major game they've made, Skies of Arcadia, Panzer Dragoon, Shenmue, Jet Set Radio plus the stuff already mentioned.

Have you even listened to the soundtracks I mentioned Guess you haven't.
Sonic dozens of times, Streets of Rage likevise, both are definitely Nintendo level in that department, both listnened to and played Space Harrier (not very impressive, liked the title screen though) I have also listened to bits of the other stuff you mentioned, but now because of you, I listened to the entire soundtrack of Revenge of Shinobi (aside from Chinatown, nothing really impressive), Outrun (meh) Afterburner (really cool, although there isn't much variety in the style), Super Hang-On (ok, but man the Genesis soundchip can be grating) and Nights Into Dreams (really good) and I still stand by my opinion that Nintendo soundtracks are better.

Compared to what Sega games, might I ask?
Everything mentioned in mine and the posts I reply to.
You probably shouldn't be asking that question when it's pretty clear you know next to nothing about Sega soundtracks yourself.

Shenmue and the Panzer Dragoon series (particularly Saga) have osts that completely annihilate anything mentioned in your first post (and yes I have played them all). It's seriously not even close. And that's not even mentioning the Sonics, Streets of Rage, Jet Set Radio, Virtua Fighter 2, Nights, Rez and countless others.
I disagree.

Nintendo fanboy
I'm definitely a Nintendo fan, but if you want to make the claim that i'm a fanboy, then that shows you haven't read some of the stuff i've posted on here.
Even still Past/Classic Mario music was still pretty repetitive with few tracks.

An even better example to show how bad Sonic beats Mario in music:

Which has better music?



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The one with these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9-cZuX3l2g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4dIENnLO8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDggkM-_34s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYPPwgLew98
 
Sonic dozens of times, Streets of Rage likevise, both are definitely Nintendo level in that department, both listnened to and played Space Harrier (not very impressive, liked the title screen though) I have also listened to bits of the other stuff you mentioned, but now because of you, I listened to the entire soundtrack of Revenge of Shinobi (aside from Chinatown, nothing really impressive), Outrun (meh) Afterburner (really cool, although there isn't much variety in the style), Super Hang-On (ok, but man the Genesis soundchip can be grating) and Nights Into Dreams (really good) and I still stand by my opinion that Nintendo soundtracks are better.

Thanks for taking the time to listen to the soundtracks I suggested. After that "kek"-post, I wasn't expecting a serious reply :p

Anyway, if you're interested, there's a lot more great Sega music to enjoy (stuff like Shenmue, Panzer Dragoon, Virtual-On, Golden Axe and the works by composer Richard Jacques, for example). Those soundtracks might not convince you of Sega's superiority, but there are certainly worse things to listen to :)
 
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