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Which Kingdom Hearts game to begin with?
- Thread starter PusherT
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Ugh, see this is why I feel slightly burned by being a fan of the Kingdom Hearts games. I'm actually in it for the Disney characters and the story around Sora meeting up with all these wonderful childhood characters I used to know and they all had this one common universe-annihilating force of pure hatred working against them and wishing to remove everything I used to love. Sure having the Final Fantasy characters was a nice novelty but I don't know them that well and I'm glad their roles were mainly bit-pieces. The game went downhill when it started getting into all this super serious guff with Organization XIII and Nobodies and DiZ and yadda yadda yadda.
But I understand that people who are also fans of Kingdom Hearts are in it for entirely the opposite reasons, the ones who want all of this stuff and wished all the child-centered colourful stuff would go away and it'd be cool and edgy and trendy.
It's probably one of the only series of games where two people can be fans of the same games and hate each other entirely for it. Maybe that's a sign that, as well as Square-Enix has made it work against all odds, it's still an alien concept and, at its core, an incompatible merger of two cultures.
But I understand that people who are also fans of Kingdom Hearts are in it for entirely the opposite reasons, the ones who want all of this stuff and wished all the child-centered colourful stuff would go away and it'd be cool and edgy and trendy.
It's probably one of the only series of games where two people can be fans of the same games and hate each other entirely for it. Maybe that's a sign that, as well as Square-Enix has made it work against all odds, it's still an alien concept and, at its core, an incompatible merger of two cultures.
letsbereasonable
Member
This is like a girl-age thread: several posters give the OP the right answer to a question he had already decided on anyway.
While KH2 has great presentation, the first game has better gameplay and isn't as stupidly easy as the second.
Org xiii is just as dumb as anythin else in the series; I can't imagine why you're so hyped for them. This is coming from someone who likes all 3 games, too.
While KH2 has great presentation, the first game has better gameplay and isn't as stupidly easy as the second.
Org xiii is just as dumb as anythin else in the series; I can't imagine why you're so hyped for them. This is coming from someone who likes all 3 games, too.
TurboLibre
Member
letsbereasonable said:
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Really?
The jungle in KH1 was pure hell. Holy fucking shit. I never touched that game again because of that area. KH2 was much more improved and the combat was a lot more fun imo. You'd be fine just starting with the second one to save yourself the raise in blood pressure from the first game.
HamPster PamPster
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SovanJedi said:
Well said
I blame those deep dive secret movies!! They seemed so cool at the time...
Play which ever game you want, gaf tends to over stress the importance of playing things in order (in my opinion)
Theres nothing in the first game you couldn't understand after an hour with wiki and youtube
letsbereasonable
Member
Tkawsome said:
Both games were close enough that it's probably a personal preference, but the second game was super easy and linear. I think it also recycled too many areas as main worlds and did too much backtracking to artificially extend the game's length. It did make the gummi crap a little more bearable, though. Don't get me wrong, the gameplay wasn't terrible or anything; I just thought 1 was better.
Regulus Tera
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Tkawsome said:
I'm just gonna copy-paste Himuro's argument since his is less badmouthed than mine:
Himuro said:
Hellsing321
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WTF is this shit!? Just play the first one first if you want to know more about anything in the Kingdom Hearts universe. Otherwise you'll just be confused as fuck. I played KHII before playing CoM and I was confused as fuck. I'm sure if I hadn't played KH1 before CoM I would also have been confused as fuck.PusherT said:
I could agree with Himuro's points, but considering how awful the camera was in the first game and the improvements they made to it in the second I'd have to give it to KH2 for that. Also, item selecting and magic casting in a fight was MUCH less fiddly. The number of times I'd try and pull out an Elixir during Sephiroth's fight and then he'd leap over and poke me in the eye with his long stringy arm and giant toothpick sword because I couldn't get to the item easily enough just made me cry.
Also, singalong sections in The Little Mermaid, Tron bikes and Gummi Ship sections that were more enjoyable than any Arwing section in Starfox Adventures* make for loads of fun and just an enjoyable experience.
The snazzy quicktime sections were great too, but I agree with Himuro that they made the fights a bit too dull and easy. And actually I would say the first game had better bosses, if only because the first game had Chernabog and he was frickin' huge. I was so expecting them to try and get the Firebird in to the second game as a counterpart/nod to him, but they really missed out on a golden opportunity there. Gaaach!
*Not that that was hard.
Also, singalong sections in The Little Mermaid, Tron bikes and Gummi Ship sections that were more enjoyable than any Arwing section in Starfox Adventures* make for loads of fun and just an enjoyable experience.
The snazzy quicktime sections were great too, but I agree with Himuro that they made the fights a bit too dull and easy. And actually I would say the first game had better bosses, if only because the first game had Chernabog and he was frickin' huge. I was so expecting them to try and get the Firebird in to the second game as a counterpart/nod to him, but they really missed out on a golden opportunity there. Gaaach!
*Not that that was hard.
TurboLibre
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I was just curious as to why people loved the first game so much. I don't remember anything about the game. I beat it, but its like any memories of the game were completely erased. Same thing happened to me with Chrono Cross actually...
Because I don't remember anything about it, I came to the conclusion there was nothing special about it, since I would have remembered enjoying the game. Guess it's just me then.
Because I don't remember anything about it, I came to the conclusion there was nothing special about it, since I would have remembered enjoying the game. Guess it's just me then.
TheChillyAcademic
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I don't understand why this thread is still alive, the OP made his decision like an hour ago and bounced.
I will never understand how this game series has so many fans
. I got bored around little Mermaid on the first one and I ADORE Disney.
I have some friends who enjoyed II as their kids got a kick out of watching it, but gameplay wise it just felt sterile.
Am I missing something or just not the target market?
- well ones over 16 anyway
I have some friends who enjoyed II as their kids got a kick out of watching it, but gameplay wise it just felt sterile.
Am I missing something or just not the target market?
TheChillyAcademic
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nli10 said:
Has something to do with both Disney and Final Fantasy nostalgia, at least for me. I still remember the first time I saw the Cloud/Vincent in a Famitsu issue, I was SO hyped I was certain it was unhealthy. Its an RPG, my favorite genre, and while the gameplay wasn't exactly PERFECT, it was still enjoyable.
I think what I was most attracted to was the production values of the game, voice acting and graphics and how the pushed the narrative into the next gen (its completely subjective as to whither or not the story was "good"). The voice talent the game employed and the amazing music just completed the package.
Oh and, eventually, The Chilly Academic
Didn't your avatar character "ChillyAcademic" vexion get killed by another Org XIII member Axel?TheChillyAcademic said:Has something to do with both Disney and Final Fantasy nostalgia, at least for me. I still remember the first time I saw the Cloud/Vincent in a Famitsu issue, I was SO hyped I was certain it was unhealthy. Its an RPG, my favorite genre, and while the gameplay wasn't exactly PERFECT, it was still enjoyable.
I think what I was most attracted to was the production values of the game, voice acting and graphics and how the pushed the narrative into the next gen (its completely subjective as to whither or not the story was "good"). The voice talent the game employed and the amazing music just completed the package.
Oh and, eventually, The Chilly Academic
UltimaKilo
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This thread deserves a ban...
donkey show
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DANCE WATER, DANCE!!!Tkawsome said:
KH1 ftw. It gets unnecessarily convoluted later on.
.Adam Prime
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Kingdom Hearts 1 has a massive cliffhanger ending, reason enough to avoid it and just skip to part II.
AdawgDaFAB
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letsbereasonable said:
100% this! I enjoyed both games a lot, but I felt 1 was sooooooooo much better and more rewarding to play. 2 was waaaay too easy even on the hardest difficulty and even though there was more gameplay options, you hardly needed any of them to beat most of the game and the bosses. I thought the story was so dumb with the first half having you basically chase Pete from world to world trying to catch him as he did stupid stuff in each. Once the Org stuff started happening in 2 it became more interesting, but imo its not worth playing 2 if ALL you care about is them. Plus Org XIII was MUCH cooler in CoM than they were in KH2 as well imo.