It's okay to disagree. I preferred Vesperia to Abyss in nearly every way (although Fields of Fonons added a bit to the co-op, seeting up fields for each other) and it's definitely more memorable for me but it's okay if you thought otherwise.
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It's okay to disagree. I preferred Vesperia to Abyss in nearly every way (although Fields of Fonons added a bit to the co-op, seeting up fields for each other) and it's definitely more memorable for me but it's okay if you thought otherwise.
I'd agree that Abyss has the best story (from what I've played), but Vesperia's cast does a better job of driving their narrative
Is that the reason they gave? How on earth does something like that come about?
Is that the reason they gave? How on earth does something like that come about?
I've played thousand hours of Civ2, ToA is still the best Tales game all around (><)
lol sorry, couldn't resist
I played ToA one time and ToV one time, and any Tales game one time, I do plan to get back to ToG though, because of the great gameplay, and ToA still is better than ToG all things considered. You see what I mean?
All of this abyss hate makes me sad. I completely and utterly adore that game and its cast...But I was also in high school when I played it, which was during my emo stage.
But yeah, Abyss has the best villains in the English Tales. My major problem with Vesperia was its inability to have a "big bad." But Vesperia was fantastic too.
But yeah, Abyss has the best villains in the English Tales. My major problem with Vesperia was its inability to have a "big bad." But Vesperia was fantastic too.
BassForever
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Yea it's still in English, but a lot of the emotional impact is lost when you have 5 minute scenes of silent talking IMO also it doesn't forgive the first half of the games story for being garbage.
And yeah kangaroo was bad, but it's still better then fucking like a tiger :|
It's been a while, but basically it can be said that the main story ends halfway through the game. The second part are basically 'Character Quests' where each character gets their own quests that are mostly independent of each other. They add up to about half the playtime, but I guess they figured it was okay to leave it without voices.
I guess I'd have to give it a shot to really understand. Legendia is pretty much the only Tales game released in the West (post-PS1) I haven't played for some reason.
The lack of voice acting is definitely a travesty, but I think the immaculate OST helped convey emotion in stead of voicing. Voicing would without a doubt have been preferable ... But I still enjoyed it. (Also I enjoyed the first half of the story, but I guess that's just a difference of opinion.)
I haven't played the DeJap translation of Phantasia, but it sounds humorous! Is it unenjoyable?
Finn of Ooo
Member
Well all thugs considered I think I'm going to go with duck tales, thanks for all the input guys!
Why does tos2 get so much hate?
Why does tos2 get so much hate?
New main protagonists are quite annoying. Has monster party members for the majority of the game, although ToS cameos are available at times (but a bit restricted).
The villain is my series favorite, however.
If I am only interested in the story and characters, is ToS2 worth playing?
No.
But it's one of the most boring Tales Of.
spindashing
Banned
One more vote for Abyss. I like Luke's dickery and the voice acting is top notch.
Then again, voice acting isn't a problem in the Tales series.
Then again, voice acting isn't a problem in the Tales series.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Arc Rise Fantasia! 
J/K...it is pretty good though.
Abyss on tha 3DS and Vesperia on the 360, if you have those systems.
Maybe Symphonia 2 on the Wii?
J/K...it is pretty good though.
Abyss on tha 3DS and Vesperia on the 360, if you have those systems.
Maybe Symphonia 2 on the Wii?
mocolostrocolos
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Vesperia.
There's no contest.
There's no contest.
ShockingAlberto
Member
ToS2 takes characters you like and writes them as if they were different characters.
Deified Data
Banned
Always choose characters. After picking up Graces f and putting it down after 20 hours, I can say that the combat was good but not nearly good enough to warrant putting up with the shitty characters and storyline.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I personally didn't like Vesperia's characters even though its the best Tales game so far. Just don't like pink haired characters. In fact, I loathe anime characters with non-natural hair color unless they're bad guys.
That's just me though. Blonde, brunette, black, brown, redheads, auburn,... thats ok...but why hot pink, neon green, or bright purple? Never liked that. Probably can guess which is why i never played Graces f!
I mean I won't avoid a game because of it but I don't prefer it.
That's just me though. Blonde, brunette, black, brown, redheads, auburn,... thats ok...but why hot pink, neon green, or bright purple? Never liked that. Probably can guess which is why i never played Graces f!
I mean I won't avoid a game because of it but I don't prefer it.
Dark Octave
Banned
Symphonia was great so he needs to go to Vesparia now. Symphonia 2 I guess would make more sense, but Vesparia is a must eventually.
I have Somphonia 2 but haven't played it yet. Without spoiling anything, why don't people like it?
I have Somphonia 2 but haven't played it yet. Without spoiling anything, why don't people like it?
Monster raising and party members
Emil and Marta are quite unlikeable for most the game, although they do improve a little by the end.
No world map (although it's certainly not the only Tales game without one)
This one:
Gotta love this reply!
I'm excited for the classic revamp take on this soon!As for Tales OF series, I'm a huge fan of Phantasia. Go with the very first game that spawned this wonderful series. Highly recommend SNES version for the music.
I've only played Abyss and Vesperia.
As far as characters - I think Jade>Yuri>Luke. And ToA last boss> ToV last boss. And Vesperia's story is more black and white for me than Abyss, whose antagonists have a valid point.
But I definitely think you should play ToA, then ToV in that order.
As far as characters - I think Jade>Yuri>Luke. And ToA last boss> ToV last boss. And Vesperia's story is more black and white for me than Abyss, whose antagonists have a valid point.
But I definitely think you should play ToA, then ToV in that order.
Black Republican
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Vesperia mang
I recommend Graces f. Battle system is pretty cool and I liked the quirky characters of the game and how you can play with most of the main cast as children in the beginning. It makes liking the character easier and you get closer with them and shit because of it. Vesperia is pretty good but other than it's graphics and Dahngrest's city theme I don't think the game holds up as well as Graces f gameplay wise or narratively. I'm not yet finished with Abyss and Symphonia to make a full judgement of those two yet.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I thought Graces 's story was OK. It's not spectacular but it's not outright terrible. The characters are neither outright terrible too (although Asbel just looks down on himself too much and Hubert is an ass).
I'd recommend Graces and Abyss though. Although I really really hated some of Abyss' characters (like Luke).
I'd recommend Graces and Abyss though. Although I really really hated some of Abyss' characters (like Luke).
The villains of Tales are for the most part terrible in my opinion.
I feel the safest recommending Tales of Vesperia.
Abyss might have the better plot on paper, but its pacing is among the worst in JRPG history, I would say (excessive backtracking and fetch-quests at times), and the writing is really sporadic (really good at some points, really infuriating at others).
Vesperia has the added benefit of having a good cast and the story itself is not really offensive (and gets somewhat exciting at certain points).
Graces f could satisfy from a pure gameplay standpoint, but most of the cast and the story goes nowhere very fast.
Abyss might have the better plot on paper, but its pacing is among the worst in JRPG history, I would say (excessive backtracking and fetch-quests at times), and the writing is really sporadic (really good at some points, really infuriating at others).
Vesperia has the added benefit of having a good cast and the story itself is not really offensive (and gets somewhat exciting at certain points).
Graces f could satisfy from a pure gameplay standpoint, but most of the cast and the story goes nowhere very fast.
Black Republican
Member
i couldnt finish the game because of this, its fucking bad
You'd recommend Graces and Abyss but not Vesperia (unless you haven't played it)?
And imo Graces' plot really is that terrible. And the characters outside of Malik and Pascal are pretty bad, but Assbel really takes the cake for awfulness. Worst Tales protag from the games I've played.
Yes.
There's nothing wrong with the story.
OT: Abyss is good. Very good. It starts slow though, but it picks up. It's a long story and gets really good when you start approaching the endgame. It's too bad lots of people hate it because of one dickish character (Luke) and some technobabble. If you're somewhat tolerant, you'll like it.
Vesperia is as also a choice, and Graces F for the combat.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I don't have a 360 nor do I fully understand Japanese.
Graces' story is not that bad to like what people say. It's not Star Ocean 4 for sure. The plot of Graces ƒ is not special and predictable, but it's not cringe worthy.
Oh and Graces ƒ still has a good amount of content, but the inn requests can be a chore.
Destiny PSX is the best Tales games. I prefer the Phantasia/Destiny PSX versions to the remakes.
Also, why recommend Radiant Mythology 2/3 and not the first one? They are practically the same games, but the first one has the advantage of being in English and going for like $10 on Amazon.
Off-Kilter
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Vesperia
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Vesperia
Graces F
Abyss
Vesperia
Vesperia
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Graces F
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Um, he asked if ToS2 was worth it considering the story and characters alone. It is not. But then none of the Tales games really are, except possibly Vesperia.
Byronic Hero
Member
Listen to this man. He speaks nothing but truth.
But if you want to, you could wait for Xillia. It's only got a couple of months until it comes out.
Canadian Psycho
Banned
What if I decided to play 2 before 1? (Context: the only Tales I have ever played are TOD, TOE and TOP (love them all - don't really care about story, just gameplay), but I own pretty much all of the others (save TOV and TOGf, but I'll get there).)
Also, how is the controls with the Wiimote + nunchuk combo? Wouldn't it be awkward to control a Tales game that way or are controls the least of my concerns regarding that game (lol)?
Gardios
Member
I'd just go Abyss->Vesperia->Graces F.
And really, in terms of plot, I thought that all three had problems.
Abyss is probably the most ambitious in terms of themes and has some of the best character development in the series but suffers from poor pacing, loads of techno-babble, and the characters can be damn near infuriating at times. Vesperia's theme of justice and its vigilante main character are interesting at first but the writers never really capitalize on their potential due to the poor, 2-dimensional villains, a rather aimless story, and a 3rd act that just feels completely tacked on and pointless. While the characters in Graces F can be rather amusing(if not especially deep) the story plays it a bit too generic and safe for the most part compared to the other two but it also doesn't suffer from Abyss's poor pacing nor a 3rd act as terrible as Vesperia's
And really, in terms of plot, I thought that all three had problems.
Abyss is probably the most ambitious in terms of themes and has some of the best character development in the series but suffers from poor pacing, loads of techno-babble, and the characters can be damn near infuriating at times. Vesperia's theme of justice and its vigilante main character are interesting at first but the writers never really capitalize on their potential due to the poor, 2-dimensional villains, a rather aimless story, and a 3rd act that just feels completely tacked on and pointless. While the characters in Graces F can be rather amusing(if not especially deep) the story plays it a bit too generic and safe for the most part compared to the other two but it also doesn't suffer from Abyss's poor pacing nor a 3rd act as terrible as Vesperia's
RPGCrazied
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Legendia. Gets a lot of hate. But dat music, I think its my favorite soundtrack from the Tales of games. The only thing that I didn't like was the 2nd half of the game you get 0 voice acting. Other than that, its great.
Graces is a actually really great if you are willing to invest some time in it and allow the story and characters to progress. No, Asbel won't ever be as cool as Yuri from ToV but some of the supporting cast in ToG makes up for Asbel and the battle system is certainly sublime.
And really, the story in Graces is not a bad one. It's far less convoluted than Abyss and dare I say has a more satisfying conclusion than Vesperia. Graces is worth your time.
And really, the story in Graces is not a bad one. It's far less convoluted than Abyss and dare I say has a more satisfying conclusion than Vesperia. Graces is worth your time.