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Who is more irredeemable he Seinfield characters or the Sunny characters?

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... I guess I missed this episode

Season 8 - Episode 7 Franks Back in Business

Dennis impersonates a dead business man who was getting woed by some other business men or something, during the woeing they take him into a changing room saying they got something just for him, only for it to be a thai boy waiting for him. Dennis contemplates it and finally decides he can do it. Only its a golf caddy lol.
 
Don't you guys want to get off with me?

That entire episode was uncomfortable in the best possible way.

"is this really happening right now on television?" It's one of my favorites.

The moment I knew that the gang were a group of terrible people was the first episode I saw all the way through, "The Gang Gives Back."

...Can this just be an Always Sunny appreciation thread now?
 
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Sunny crew. They're the best at it.

Seinfeld had it's moments where you could see where they were coming from.
 
Dennis alone trumps the Seinfield characters combined in how evil he is. He's definitely someone who statutory rapes, likely rapes drunk girls, and possibly forcably rapes and murders people.
Dee, Frank, and Mac also are all pretty despicable.
Charlie's the only one who could even be fairly compared to Seinfeld characters, though I still think Charlie would be more evil.
 
"I used to be a priest before I got involved with you" - Rickety Cricket, the homeless, cocaine addicted, one eyed, horribly scarred cripple.
 
Mac by a landslide.

Yeah, Mac at least occasionally borrows morality from characters like Die Hard and Gymkata. Charlie doesn't have enough credit to borrow morality from fictional characters.

"I used to be a priest before I got involved with you" - Rickety Cricket, the homeless, cocaine addicted, one eyed, horribly scarred cripple.

I don't think it's fair to blame Cricket's misfortunes on the Gang.
 
Definitely Sunny. I stopped watching the show just because I hated every character so goddamn much. Especially Charlie, he should be in a hospital or something.
 
Not just Sunny, but Dennis. Seinfeld characters are benign jerks. Most of the Sunny crew is just stupid. Frank is an asshole, but generally only for his personal benefit. Dennis, on the other hand, goes out of his way to be absolutely malicious.
 
Better premise would have been to list the worst person from each group and argue why as there's almost complete consensus over this.
 
The actor that plays Dennis was on the Mindy project for a few episodes, and i could not shake the feeling that he would eventually become the psychotic person in sunny.
 
sunny is such an intense show... man. I used to love it but I can't take it anymore.

Oh yeah, I stopped watching it blitzed out of my mind on coke at 5am.
 
petty pricks versus sociopathic dicks
 
Definitely Sunny, they had a funeral for a fake baby.


What's the darkest thing one of the Seinfeld characters has done?

Today TBS played the episode were Jerry and Kramer dig up their neighbors dead parrot. That died by choking on Kramer's hidden strongbox key.
 
Definitely Sunny, they had a funeral for a fake baby.


What's the darkest thing one of the Seinfeld characters has done?

Today TBS played the episode were Jerry and Kramer dig up their neighbors dead parrot. That died by choking on Kramer's hidden strongbox key.
Jerry stealing the marble rye.
Elaine and Kramer taking a neighbor's dog out into the country (don't worry, it came back).
Kramer giving a handicapped woman a broken secondhand wheelchair.
George knocking an old woman down and putting himself before kids in a fire emergency.
Jerry sending Uncle Leo a letter bomb.
 
Multiple Sunny characters once became convinced that they had acquired a taste for human flesh and tried to find a victim to eat. It's not even close.
 
Though I think Charlie is the more redeemable of the four.

Charlie has been down to murder on more than a couple of occasions and has no problem ruining the lives around him. At least Dennis tries to get everyone to like him, Charlie doesn't give a fuck about anyone but Frank. I'd say Mac is the heart of the show. He's frequently a huge asshole, but he's normally the one to calm everyone down from complete insanity. And I can't think of too many things he has done that would put him on the same level as the rest of the gang.
 
The Sunny crew met their old friend who became a priest and this is a short list of the shit that they have done to him:
-Made him quit priesthood which escalated in him becoming homeless and doing crack.
-Sent them mob after him and getting his legs broken.
-Hunted by sport by Mac and Dennis.
-Getting throat slashed by Frank, with dogs trying to fuck him up his neck gap.
-Hand shot by Dee.
-Almost forced to remove his only eye by the gang.
-Stayed on the apartment set on fire by the gang.
 
I honestly can't think of many overly terrible things Mac has done, but maybe somebody can refresh my memory.

He's really interested in the idea of hunting Rickety Cricket and wants to slam his balls in his face. He goes out of his way to prove to a transwoman that her marriage is illegal and that she's going to hell, all because he wants to fuck her. His 1776 counterpart basically endorsed rape, and he doesn't care about getting women pregnant because he knows they'll get an abortion.
 
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