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[Jack Remington]

Thor

What issue is this? I need to read that one.

Edit: it's also from Infinity, isn't it?

 

[The Silver]

What issue is this? I need to read that one.

Infinity #6

the pic you posted is also from that issue

 

[TheSecondSpitter]

Hulk and Thor

nvm

 

[Jack Remington]

Huh, for whatever reason I completely forgot the Thor part of that issue.

I'm really hoping we get the Black Order in Avengers 3. They're pretty much perfect for this movie universe.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Huh, for whatever reason I completely forgot the Thor part of that issue.

I'm really hoping we get the Black Order in Avengers 3. They're pretty much perfect for this movie universe.

Yep. And at least with them it sidesteps the "is Thanos an actual idiot?" problem with the MCU. I mean sure you have one guy working against Thanos there too, but you also have four of them with blind loyalty who are also exceptional fighters. And come on, they can adapt that Black Panther fight wholesale and it'd get a round of applause.

 

[Rogan]

Hulk. Unbeatable.

 

[obin_gam]

Kingpin.
So far he's the only one who have shown to be a real bad guy with real motives. And if you have motives, you are powerful.

I'm more scared of a bald guy in a suit decapitating a person with a car door than some purple giant sitting doing nothing.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Kingpin.
So far he's the only one who have shown to be a real bad guy with real motives. And if you have motives, you are powerful.

I'm more scared of a bald guy in a suit decapitating a person with a car door than some purple giant sitting doing nothing.

"Motives" must be really reassuring when the entire physical composition of your body is altered, turning you into goop.

 

[Manmademan]

Kingpin.
So far he's the only one who have shown to be a real bad guy with real motives. And if you have motives, you are powerful.
.

beaten up by a blind guy in an alley, tho

 

[obin_gam]

beaten up by a blind guy in an alley, tho

Still managed to kill more people with his bare hands than a titan tho...

 

[Manmademan]

Still managed to kill more people with his bare hands than a titan tho...

also beaten up by more blind guys

 

[Slayven]

Celestials are huge assholes. Is that the Destroyer Armor?

Depends: We talking standard Black Bolt, or Silver-Age Black Bolt?

Yeah Thor and the majority of Asgardian life force is charging it and The Eternal Unimind

Celestials shut that shit down.

Silver Age BB was crazy, making people robes and shit

 

[Rogan]

also beaten up by more blind guys

Lmao.

 

[El_Chino]

Who is this again?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Who is this again?

Eson the Searcher, a Celestial capable of destroying entire worlds with a mere gesture.

 

[shiftplusone]

I think it's strange, yeah. You're acting like he's overexposed after a few scenes. It's no different to me than the build up to the Emperor in the original SW trilogy and the pay off there was equally worth it. Thanos is going to headline two movies, there's no need to have him destroy the universe in a teaser cameo.

The difference is that the emperor didn't have 5 lackies who all turned on him or tried to undermine him at every turn. Thanos has sat on his stupid chair and gotten dunked on.

"gonna handle this shit myself" is the first thing he's actually done that isn't lord zedd tier of incompetence

Wouldn't it actually be them?

when was this? guessing on a wall in the temple where starlord got the stone?

Yep. And at least with them it sidesteps the "is Thanos an actual idiot?" problem with the MCU. I mean sure you have one guy working against Thanos there too, but you also have four of them with blind loyalty who are also exceptional fighters. And come on, they can adapt that Black Panther fight wholesale and it'd get a round of applause.

ooh the black order would be fantastic

 

[Slayven]

Eson the Searcher, a Celestial capable of destroying entire worlds with a mere gesture.

And the giant space head (knowhere)was a member of his race

 

[ImpalingNarwhal]

I have a feeling it will eventually be Thanos. I'm looking forward to the climax of his story.

 

[Clefargle]

Hyperstorm?

 

[Finaika]

Eson the Searcher, a Celestial capable of destroying entire worlds with a mere gesture.

Welp, the Avengers is done I guess.

How does he stack against Galactus?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Welp, the Avengers is done I guess.

How does he stack against Galactus?

Well he did have one of the Infinity Stones when farming planets, so I guess it's yet to be seen how a celestial without the power of a stone would stand up against MCU Thor.

Slayven would have a better answer regarding their power, but Galactus is of a similar nature to the celestials, and Thanos can stand toe to toe with him at times.

 

[ThankYouDaletech]

Eson the Searcher, a Celestial capable of destroying entire worlds with a mere gesture.

Is that the dude who got sliced up by a silly axe?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Is that the dude who got sliced up by a silly axe?

I think that was just some random celestial farmer but I haven't re-read that arc in a while.

The axe was enchanted specifically to kill Celestials tho

 

[More_Badass]

Captain Marvel

According to Kevin Feige in his Phase Three announcement, Carol Danvers is "one of the most, if not the most, powerful heroes in the MCU

 

[Finaika]

Captain Marvel

She's basically the Superman of Marvel right?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

She's basically the Superman of Marvel right?

There are a lot of those. But in the MCU yeah she will basically be the Superman analogue.

Captain Marvel movie won't be worth it unless I get a scene of her absolutely decimating an entire kree fleet of battleships.

 

[njean777]

The fully realized Infinity gauntlet gives you the power of a god. He can literally will the universe out of existence.

Which I find extremely stupid. There is no way to combat that type of power.

 

[Slayven]

She's basically the Superman of Marvel right?

Supergirl is closer, not because of gender. But similar origins and both try to live upto the mantle.

 

[easterislandhead]

Hulk. Unbeatable.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Which I find extremely stupid. There is no way to combat that type of power.

Well, I would hope that it comes down to more than just a battle of power levels. There are some interesting things they can do with Thanos psychologically in the movies that will make it more than that.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the MCU Gauntlet is nerfed like it is these days in the comics.

 

[The Omega Man]

Showing that celestial was overkill, is there anything more powerful than that?
Also was are the chances of Gladiator showing up in a MCU movie?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Also was are the chances of Gladiator showing up in a MCU movie?

Fox owns those rights.

 

[Saint of Killers]

Years ago, Wizard told me it was Silver Surfer.

 

[Slayven]

 

[IHaveIce]

Wouldn't it actually be them?

Woah I did miss this

 

[easterislandhead]

Years ago, Wizard told me it was Silver Surfer.

MCU

 

[X-Frame]

I read through the first page at least but I don't understand how movie Spider-Man can even be considered in the same league as Thor and Hulk. Did I miss a movie power-up announcement?

 

[ScreenSplitter]

I read through the first page at least but I don't understand how movie Spider-Man can even be considered in the same league as Thor and Hulk. Did I miss a movie power-up announcement?

Well the title refers specifically to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and we have no idea what that iteration of Spidey will be like.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

nice gauntlet you got there buddy

If Marvel goes all in it will soon be this guy

 

[neorej]

I read through the first page at least but I don't understand how movie Spider-Man can even be considered in the same league as Thor and Hulk. Did I miss a movie power-up announcement?

Comic book characters are as strong as the story needs them to be. Spider-Man can get his ass kicked into a new dimension by Green Goblin on monday, defeat Thanos while blind on thursday.


Comics are weird.

 

[LosDaddie]

I love this thread.

 

[rbenchley]

nope.



besides, Tribunal doesn't exist in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And probably won't.

Putting on my nerd debate hat, it took all of the combined Beyonders to take down the Living Tribunal. The Tribunal is usually considered the single strongest entity in the Marvel Universe. Theoretically, someone with superior powers and intellect like Thanos or Warlock, wearing the Infinity Gauntlet would be on par with him.

Aside from the Tribunal, there is the One Above All, but the OAA generally doesn't really make appearances in the Marvel Universe. One of the few exceptions is during a post Civil War Spiderman issue:

 

[El Daniel]

The weaker guys like Cap and Daredevil are way more interesting to me than guys like Thor and Vision. More grounded and more tension in the fights. I hope Vision's role in Civil War stays minimal.

 

[The Technomancer]

Aside from the Tribunal, there is the One Above All, but the OAA generally doesn't really make appearances in the Marvel Universe. One of the few exceptions is during a post Civil War Spiderman issue:

That dialogue though

 

[easterislandhead]

The weaker guys like Cap and Daredevil are way more interesting to me than guys like Thor and Vision. More grounded and more tension in the fights. I hope Vision's role in Civil War stays minimal.

I assume they are going to play up vision huge in the following movies in order to make it more dramatic when thanos comes and rips the infinity gem from his skull.

So for you the downside is he'll probally be getting more screen time for now, but on the upside you can bet he's going to die.

 

[Ganzlinger]

The weaker guys like Cap and Daredevil are way more interesting to me than guys like Thor and Vision. More grounded and more tension in the fights. I hope Vision's role in Civil War stays minimal.

I agree.

 

[fates]

Thanos. He owns his own choppa.

Oh man that comic. If Infinity War ends the same way with Thanos getting arrested by ordinary cops and taken to jail I'll be one happy customer.

 

[Manmademan]

Putting on my nerd debate hat, it took all of the combined Beyonders to take down the Living Tribunal. The Tribunal is usually considered the single strongest entity in the Marvel Universe. Theoretically, someone with superior powers and intellect like Thanos or Warlock, wearing the Infinity Gauntlet would be on par with him.



Aside from the Tribunal, there is the One Above All, but the OAA generally doesn't really make appearances in the Marvel Universe. One of the few exceptions is during a post Civil War Spiderman issue:

It didn't take all of them. It took three, out of the thousands(?) That showed up in the finale of TRO. And those three took out not just the tribunal but every single abstract being, including an indefinite number of celestials (could be anywhere from thousands to billions of these) along with him.

Time Runs Out also put secret wars 2 back into continuity, establishing "THE" beyonder as a child variant of the mature versions in time runs out. That child unit ran roughshod all over everything in the MU and couldn't be stopped. Marvel previously had the tribunal and company explaining the events away as an illusion, but that's been done away with. The Beyonder was EXACTLY as powerful as SWII said he was and the events were legitimate.

The infinity gauntlet has also been massively nerfed since it was created. It has a ton of power...in the universe it originates from. It's useless outside of it. Captain America as well as the "not JLA" used gauntlets to stop an incursion and the gauntlet broke both times. This puts them well below celestials and cosmic cubes, let alone beyonders or the higher abstract powers.

On top of that the gauntlet exists in Secret Wars. An Alternate version of Thanos (not the massively more powerful 616 Thanos) is running around with the infinity gems trying to put it together. Doom doesn't seem to be concerned about it.

Finally, the tribunal is able to do what he does because his authority comes from TOAA. If beyonders (who originate from outside of creation) are able to waltz in, obliterate him and everyone else on his level and doom the marvel universe to a premature death in the process, what does that say about TOAA? What's left (and that ain't much) only exists because doom is using the power of a beyonder to salvage it.

 

[Slayven]

It didn't take all of them. It took three, out of the thousands(?) That showed up in the finale of TRO. And those three took out not just the tribunal but every single abstract being, including an indefinite number of celestials (could be anywhere from thousands to billions of these) along with him.

Time Runs Out also put secret wars 2 back into continuity, establishing "THE" beyonder as a child variant of the mature versions in time runs out. That child unit ran roughshod all over everything in the MU and couldn't be stopped.

The infinity gauntlet has also been massively nerfed since it was created. It has a ton of power...in the universe it originates from. It's useless outside of it. Captain America as well as the "not JLA" used gauntlets to stop an incursion and the gauntlet broke both times. This puts them well below celestials and cosmic cubes, let alone beyonders or the higher abstract powers.

On top of that the gauntlet exists in Secret Wars. An Alternate version of Thanos (not the massively more powerful 616 Thanos) is running around with the infinity gems trying to put it together. Doom doesn't seem to be concerned about it.

Finally, the tribunal is able to do what he does because his authority comes from TOAA. If beyonders (who originate from outside of creation) are able to waltz in, obliterate him and everyone else on his level and doom the marvel universe to a premature death in the process, what does that say about TOAA? What's left (and that ain't much) only exists because doom is using the power of a beyonder to salvage it.

The infinity gems were never the same after the Ultraverse

 

[Manmademan]

The infinity gems were never the same after the Ultraverse

They were crazy OP in the ultraverse, but have been nerfed down to the level of cosmic jewelry.