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[manfestival]

nice gauntlet you got there buddy

If Marvel goes all in it will soon be this guy

he and doom killed the beyonders! I mean... that is something in itself

 

[Slayven]

They were crazy OP in the ultraverse, but have been nerfed down to the level of cosmic jewelry.

Ultraverse was lowkey crazy, Hardcase could replicate the powers of an infinity gem if he was around one long enough. Now that was powercreep

he and doom killed the beyonders! I mean... that is something in itself

He also killed the "Not" Justice League

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Odin or Collector

 

[DeathyBoy]

he and doom killed the beyonders! I mean... that is something in itself

Speaking of...

Spoiler

Given he sold his soul, does that mean Strange went to Hell/Hela/Mephisto's Realm? Or given Doom made the universe, did he make a special Hell for people who betray him where they have to listen to Reed Richards try to explain trigonometry?

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Based on what we've seen so far, it's definitely Hulk. Thor could almost stand toe-to-toe with Hulk in Avengers 1, but he was getting his arse kicked before the jet intervened and distracted Hulk. Thor is far more agile and definitely the better fighter, but that does not compete with Hulk's raw power.

I mean, Iron Man defeated a distracted Hulk in AoU, but it doesn't really count if he has access to a limitless amount of tech and unlimited prep time.

I think it's too early to call it on Scarlet Witch or Vision, and Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel should be very powerful as well. I'm sure they'll make Thanos stronger than the lot of them though.

 

[OneEightZero]

...

Define "power".

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Technically it's the celestial in the GotG flashback.

Otherwise it probably goes.

Thanos
Hulk
Vision
Thor

 

[DeathyBoy]

Based on what we've seen so far, it's definitely Hulk. Thor could almost stand toe-to-toe with Hulk in Avengers 1, but he was getting his arse kicked before the jet intervened and distracted Hulk. Thor is far more agile and definitely the better fighter, but that does not compete with Hulk's raw power..

Eh, you could say Thor was holding back. He one-shot killed a super rock monster in Thor 2, and beat the shit out of a giant ice monster in Thor. If he's playing for kills instead of to merely neutralise, he's a completely different fighter.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Yeah Thor and the majority of Asgardian life force is charging it and The Eternal Unimind

Celestials shut that shit down.

Silver Age BB was crazy, making people robes and shit

That's because Black Bolt's powers in the Silver Age were established as a sonic scream, but then were changed into "electron control," which according to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, means "I can create anything from thin air and manipulate anything."

So yeah, SA Black Bolt was stupid broke. Thankfully he no longer has that, but damn.

 

[Jack Remington]

Captain Marvel

Lol. If there's any justice Hulk will put that to rest. I'd love something like "Carol is exiting the atmosphere"

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Thanos. He owns his own choppa.

The best part is he has his name written on the side. Because what's the point of wielding the Power Cosmic™ if you can't remember which helicopter in the helicopter parking lot is yours?

 

[Manmademan]

The best part is he has his name written on the side. Because what's the point of wielding the Power Cosmic™ if you can't remember which helicopter in the helicopter parking lot is yours?

Thanos doesn't use the power cosmic.

 

[Slayven]

Thanos doesn't use the power cosmic.

They not ready for Eternals

 

[Manmademan]

They not ready for Eternals

something tells me they'd line up at the box office for this one

Carol? Carol who?

 

[Slayven]

something tells me they'd line up at the box office for this one

Carol? Carol who?

Folks would eat Kro

 

[Schweinehund]

Well, I would hope that it comes down to more than just a battle of power levels. There are some interesting things they can do with Thanos psychologically in the movies that will make it more than that.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the MCU Gauntlet is nerfed like it is these days in the comics.

I don't think Thanos will lose because of psychology. It made sense in the comics because of his past history but none of that is in the MCU. Then again Ronan was distracted by a dance off.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

goddamn I wish comic accurate doom existed in the films. Doom and his power stealing harness thing would throw this whole conversation out of wack.

 

[MikeyB]

That's because Black Bolt's powers in the Silver Age were established as a sonic scream, but then were changed into "electron control," which according to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, means "I can create anything from thin air and manipulate anything."

So yeah, SA Black Bolt was stupid broke. Thankfully he no longer has that, but damn.

Wasn't the same true of Molecule Man? He caused the consciousness of an entire other plane of existence to manifest as the Beyonder if I remember my Secret Wars of nineteen tickety-four correctly.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Wasn't the same true of Molecule Man? He caused the consciousness of an entire other plane of existence to manifest as the Beyonder if I remember my Secret Wars of nineteen tickety-four correctly.

Yeah but Molecule Man's power was written to basically be god tier for always. Black Bolt's power wasn't, then it was retconned to have always been OP, then it just all of a sudden wasn't.

Molecule Man can manipulate anything on a molecular level. My brain breaks at the thought of electrons making bathrobes

 

[The Artisan]

Hulk and Thor would be the strongest I would think, along with Vision.

thor and loki go pretty toe to toe, and hulk beat the crap out of loki, so it has to mean hulk > thor

 

[TAJ]

eh, I dunno about all that.

vision's cells are combined with vibranium on a cellular level. I'm not sure Iron Man even has anything that could actually damage him.

Vibranium ain't shit in the MCU. Thor's lightning and even Iron Man's repulsors can destroy it.

 

[Manmademan]

Vibranium ain't shit in the MCU. Thor's lightning and even Iron Man's repulsors can destroy it.

Yeah, no. It was Thor's lightning, iron man's repulsors, and an infinity gem combined that melted Ultron.

Cap was deflecting IM repulsors in the NY fight just to show off in Avengers 1, and repelled a charged up Thor's hammer without a problem. Am I the only one that watches these movies all the way through

 

[Slayven]

Molecule Man hitting folks so hard aliens gained extra dimensions.

"Cryptun"

 

[Manmademan]

Molecule Man hitting folks so hard aliens gained extra dimensions.


"Cryptun"

Ugh, Jesus. You could write whole threads on how OP that guy was- though wiping out most of the beyonders by throwing dead molecule men at them and watching them explode was a stroke of genius.

Shame the rest of the universe was collateral damage, but can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

 

[Slayven]

Ugh, Jesus. You could write whole threads on how OP that guy was- though wiping out most of the beyonders by throwing dead molecule men at them and watching them explode was a stroke of genius.

Shame the rest of the universe was collateral damage, but can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

and Molecule Man only had 1% of Beyonders powers


1% of infinity is still infinity

 

[TAJ]

Yeah, no. It was Thor's lightning, iron man's repulsors, and an infinity gem combined that melted Ultron.

Cap was deflecting IM repulsors in the NY fight just to show off in Avengers 1, and repelled a charged up Thor's hammer without a problem. Am I the only one that watches these movies all the way through

If they couldn't damage it individually then teaming up wouldn't do shit either. 0+0=0 Think, McFly.

 

[Slayven]

If they couldn't damage it individually then teaming up wouldn't do shit either. Think, McFly.

wait what?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

If they couldn't damage it individually then teaming up wouldn't do shit either. 0+0=0 Think, McFly.

what the hell is the logic in that?

 

[hwalker84]

Who's that? My nerd is failing me.

 

[Slayven]

what the hell is the logic in that?

Battleboard logic. I seen it before Here is a few gems


"Vegeta can stand still at lightspeed"

"Air is not matter"

" Pele Xavier"(too stupid to explain)

 

[Manmademan]

If they couldn't damage it individually then teaming up wouldn't do shit either. 0+0=0 Think, McFly.

Lol something tells me your logic isn't quite as flawless as you think it is.

One of those is also leaps and bounds more powerful than the other two.

Lightning and repulsors blow up buildings. Infinity gems wreck planets.

 

[TAJ]

Lol something tells me your logic isn't quite as flawless as you think it is.

One of those is also leaps and bounds more powerful than the other two.

Lightning and repulsors blow up buildings. Infinity gems wreck planets.

It would be a different story if 100% of the damage to the outer shell was done by Vision, but that's not what's shown.

 

[Manmademan]

It would be a different story if 100% of the damage to the outer shell was done by Vision, but that's not what's shown.

Dude your logic is horrible. We don't know how much damage vision was responsible for, but given that we know the infinity gems are vastly more powerful than iron man or Thor, it's not much of a logical leap to say "most of it".

Vibranium can withstand repulsors. Vibranium can withstand Thor's hammer. Vibranium melted when combining the two with an infinity gem. This isn't rocket science McFly.


And yes, combining attacks will make them stronger than they would be individually. Source:every anime ever.

 

[easterislandhead]

Who's that? My nerd is failing me.

Eson the searcher. A celestial.

 

[TAJ]

Dude your logic is horrible. We don't know how much damage vision was responsible for, but given that we know the infinity gems are vastly more powerful than iron man or Thor, it's not much of a logical leap to say "most of it".

And yes, combining attacks will make them stronger than they would be individually. Source:every anime ever.

lol
You almost had me there. Good one.

 

[Manmademan]

lol
You almost had me there. Good one.

Pretty sure I had you from the jump. This is just killing time now.

And unfortunately I don't watch anime, but thanks for taking that bait anyway.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Putting on my nerd debate hat, it took all of the combined Beyonders to take down the Living Tribunal. The Tribunal is usually considered the single strongest entity in the Marvel Universe. Theoretically, someone with superior powers and intellect like Thanos or Warlock, wearing the Infinity Gauntlet would be on par with him.



Aside from the Tribunal, there is the One Above All, but the OAA generally doesn't really make appearances in the Marvel Universe. One of the few exceptions is during a post Civil War Spiderman issue:

Yet, earlier in that same issue, The Living Tribunal put Adam Warlock in his place when Adam started throwing a tantrum.

 

[TAJ]

Pretty sure I had you from the jump. This is just killing time now.

And unfortunately I don't watch anime, but thanks for taking that bait anyway.

You mean you were never serious? Because by "You almost had me." I meant that I almost thought that post was serious.
But going by your latest post it seems clear that you were serious.

 

[Mighty Chin]

Yet, earlier in that same issue, The Living Tribunal put Adam Warlock in his place when Adam started throwing a tantrum.

I've never understood why The Stranger was always present.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

You mean you were never serious? Because by "You almost had me." I meant that I almost thought that post was serious.
But going by your latest post it seems clear that you were serious.

Are you saying combo attacks don't do more damage than single attacks?

 

[TAJ]

Are you saying combo attacks don't do more damage than single attacks?

If they'd do damage individually then obviously they'd do damage faster together.
A real-world example would be shooting up a house. A single bullet would do a tiny amount of damage, but get a crowd of people firing repeatedly and you can tear it up. If they all just bounced off harmlessly (like shooting armor with Nerf guns) then it would just be pissing into the wind.
Even with something like sandblasting the individual grains would still do damage, however small.
The closest to what you're thinking of would be something like ramming an object with cars from opposite sides simultaneously.

 

[Slayven]

I've never understood why The Stranger was always present.

He that dude that lied on his Resume, but no one calls out because he plays golf with the boss

 

[hodayathink]

If they'd do damage individually then obviously they'd do damage faster together.
A real-world example would be shooting up a house. A single bullet would do a tiny amount of damage, but get a crowd of people firing repeatedly and you can tear it up. If they all just bounced off harmlessly (like shooting armor with Nerf guns) then it would just be pissing into the wind.
Even with something like sandblasting the individual grains would still do damage, however small.
The closest to what you're thinking of would be something like ramming an object with cars from opposite sides simultaneously.

What you're saying right now is the equivalent to "A 5W laser wouldn't hurt it, and a 10W laser wouldn't hurt, so obviously a 15W laser wouldn't hurt it". Which makes no sense.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

something tells me they'd line up at the box office for this one

Carol? Carol who?

uhhh she needs her jacket

 

[Jack Remington]

Lol something tells me your logic isn't quite as flawless as you think it is.

One of those is also leaps and bounds more powerful than the other two.

Lightning and repulsors blow up buildings. Infinity gems wreck planets.

Also it's Joss Whedon. I'm pretty sure you put far more thought into it than he did.

And really, he has the mind gem, not the power gem. Its attack shouldn't be a standard energy blast.

 

[Vermillion]

Molecule Man hitting folks so hard aliens gained extra dimensions.


"Cryptun"

Lmao at the potted plant

 

[alexandros]

Eh, you could say Thor was holding back. He one-shot killed a super rock monster in Thor 2, and beat the shit out of a giant ice monster in Thor. If he's playing for kills instead of to merely neutralise, he's a completely different fighter.

That's true. I'd like to see how a fully unleashed Thor would fight, maybe in Ragnarok?

 

[Nocebo]

If they'd do damage individually then obviously they'd do damage faster together.
A real-world example would be shooting up a house. A single bullet would do a tiny amount of damage, but get a crowd of people firing repeatedly and you can tear it up. If they all just bounced off harmlessly (like shooting armor with Nerf guns) then it would just be pissing into the wind.
Even with something like sandblasting the individual grains would still do damage, however small.
The closest to what you're thinking of would be something like ramming an object with cars from opposite sides simultaneously.

You're saying that if someone throws a grain of sand at you it is going to do damage?
As for your nerf example. If someone throws a rock through a window and there are still shards hanging in the window frame I bet I could knock some of them out of the frame or even break some of the piece with a nerf gun. You see, a strong force can weaken a structure to the point where a weak force can also damage it. You can also imagine many cracks in the window from the rock, it would only take a hit from a nerf gun to completely shatter it.

If I remove the blocks from the base of a Jenga tower I can eventually just topple it by breathing on it.

 

[karasu]

Battleboard logic. I seen it before Here is a few gems


"Vegeta can stand still at lightspeed"

What hahahaha

 

[BigJonsson]

Celestial, Thanos or Rocket Raccoon because