Yeah it doesn't have to work both ways but if you can create a universe you can technically destroy one if you make them occupy the same space
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Who is the most powerful superhero?
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Yeah it doesn't have to work both ways but if you can create a universe you can technically destroy one if you make them occupy the same space
I wasn't thinking Word of God so much asand that's John's in. Not like he hasn't talked down a God of Death beforeJesse and SoK's last meeting. It didn't require it, after all. Dude can be reasoned with
Ahh ok I see what you mean. Yeah as long as you steer clear of pissing the Saint off before the bullets start flying then you have a chance to talk with him that's true.
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I think GER is akin to turning on god mode in a video game. The only people who can really deal with GER are other extremely high level reality warpers. I honestly think that a fight between GER and Made in Heaven would have been a great one, but in terms of major US publishers, I still think Franklin holds the title.
Well, then, he's not actually thinking at the speed of light, because, well, neurons have length.
I feel the real answer is anyone creators want. Sometimes it feels like they don't show restraint and give everyone too much power.
I mean if FLASH can do all that stuff so quickly, why are there ANY villains (outside of Darkseid or Doomsday)? Lex tries to do something, oh no, Flash stopped him before started.
I mean if FLASH can do all that stuff so quickly, why are there ANY villains (outside of Darkseid or Doomsday)? Lex tries to do something, oh no, Flash stopped him before started.
BKatastrophe
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been binge watching JLU and I would say
Not even a hero. Moment he tried to be one, he had a mental breakdown, flew off, and never came back.
balladofwindfishes
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Justice League/Unlimited is on Netflix
It's stupid how Batman/Superman TAS are on Amazon, but JL/JLU are on Netflix. Made it confusing for me, just found out JL was on Netflix a week ago and I've been binge watching it as well. Too bad Batman Beyond isn't on either of them... wish the whole universe was on one streaming service for easy viewing.
Such a great show, though. Some of the graphics haven't aged that great (the opening is lol, and sometimes buildings and stuff show clear texture artifacts, especially with text), but it holds up.
Imperfected
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Not being able to deal with fire is kind of a problem when you're dealing with beings capable of generating so much kinetic energy that they're going to be leaving fires and melting things by accident just as a result of moving as fast or hitting as hard as they do.
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For some reason the Flash "perception and cognition faster than the speed of light" physical impossibilities bug me way more than any reality-shaping powers in that niggling killjoy kind of way.
Anyway I'd say it's down to Flash or Franklin Richards depending on what exactly you mean by "powerful."
He's my favorite fictional character.
Anyway I'd say it's down to Flash or Franklin Richards depending on what exactly you mean by "powerful."
He's my favorite fictional character.
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Could be but if i wished for him to be destroyed, the genie would destroy him.
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I like how magic can bypass all laws of physics and cognition, even granting protection without one being aware of the danger. Yeah, the most powerful is probably a magic-based character because fuck you, it's magic.
Just to be different, I'm going with Hulk.
It's been ages since I've read any of his stuff, but I remember there being at least one variant that had no upper limit on strength and would just keep fighting and growing stronger the more and more he got pissed until he eventually won.
Not exactly a hero though..
It's been ages since I've read any of his stuff, but I remember there being at least one variant that had no upper limit on strength and would just keep fighting and growing stronger the more and more he got pissed until he eventually won.
Not exactly a hero though..
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But in the middle of a fight is someone just going to be like "ok time to just bust the entire universe" or would he just be too busy worrying about being punched in the face? Imo there are feats and there are battle feats.
Like how much damage one can take for example. Somebody can create a universe but can they take a massive world destroying blast at point blank?
i think DC/marvel has a limit on what magic can do. Like I don't think it can work on beings like galactus
BKatastrophe
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I cannot comprehend what a Gold Experience Requiem vs a Stairway to Heaven fight would even look like.
I wish we knew more about how GER works. The mechanics behind it are so nebulous that I'm simply left here thinking that reality would simply stop. If Enrico Pucci's ability is to infinitely accelerate the speed of entropy in the entire universe until it is reformed into a new ideal version... where does GER's interaction with it begin and end? As far as I know GER works by rewriting an observed sequence of events causing them to have never have taken place but how far does this ability extend? How much does Giorno/ GER have to perceive for it to kick in?
That said, given an infinite amount of tries (undos/ resets) I don't really see Pucci ever beating Giorno in a fight. Other than going at his own pace at will during acclerated time/space Pucci has little offensive/ defensive capabilities while Giorno's reality changing abilities may very well be autonomous since he himself isn't exactly sure how it works. If GER kills Pucci with Stairway to Heaven active does he die an infinite amount of times like Diavolo does? Because of how Stairway to Heaven works does the universe reset every time he dies? In the primary universe where Pucci dies with Stairway active how far is the timer rolled back if GER undoes the universe being reset, if it is even able to prevent this at all? Is the timer rolled all the way back to when Pucci has C Moon again and he is just dead before he ever gets Stairway?
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Man universe resetting/ franchise rebooting powers are dumb.
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Hey guys, how does this guy size up compared to the top tier folks:
I'm assuming he'd get bodied by someone somewhere along the lines, but I just want a sense of scale.
He's near the top, but not at the top. He's not even the strongest supes for example - That's silver age supes, who is probably the answer to OP's question:
silver age supes once went so fast he broke through infinity and god sent the spectre to stop supes from going any futher:
God was also impressed when supes held his sword and willingly gave it up
Supes carrying planets:
And blowing them up by sneezing:
Secret Character
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That's part of what I mean. I think the two Stands would sort of cancel each other out or set them squarely in some kind of pocket space that would revolve around multiple universes being born and dying. In the end, they would sort of just exist outside of the rest of the physical universe and who knows what would happen after that.
That's not what happened in the cartoon (justice league unlimited, he was part of the League after Luthor talked him out of his quest for revenge) which is the version being talked about, he flew away because his power was too much and he couldn't risk it being taken by what they were fighting, so he flew a few galaxies away until shit was resolved (writers just conveniently never brought him back).
It really depends on who it is , but I see where your coming From
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Doctor Manhattan.
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I'm not gonna go into cosmic beings because they simply just re-write reality.
but characters like Superman, Blue Marvel, & She-hulk are infinitely powerful because they are matter engines.
but characters like Superman, Blue Marvel, & She-hulk are infinitely powerful because they are matter engines.
Didn't Hulk bite Silver Surfer's head off?
Does this overpowered thing count?
I know they recently literally stated Kirby's power is Infinite, but technically speaking, Kirby is not a super hero, a hero? yes, he's a bieng who has done heroic deeds in the time of need, but Super Heroes are kinda career heroes, not people who answer the call on situational moments of need.
Kirby doesn't actively look for wrongs to right or people in danger to save, he usually just, kinda casually stumbles upon crisis.
BKatastrophe
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I know which version. He left after the initial events following his creation and Luthor, then came back to take revenge which included just moving planets to other places and plowing through the League. Then Luthor says "You won't kill me," "Yes I will," "No you won't," "Okay then." Then Amazo goes to live with Doctor Fate until he figures out where he belongs, being that he is clearly a very unique being of great power who doesn't really understand his place in the universe. Then Grundy is resurrected with chaos magic, prompting the League to call up Fate. Aquaman and Amazo tag along, figuring they could be of some help while Shayera mopes in the Tower of Fate. Amazo tries to counter Grundy's powers, but freaks out because he can't comprehend chaos magic and doesn't know what to do against it and then leaves until he can. He literally goes, "what is this shit? I don't even," and then fucks off to god knows what part of the universe. He was never a member of the League, and if he was it was honorary and even then he said "Nah bruhs, Imma chill with Fate and Inza in that sick-ass Tower of Fate he's got goin' on."
Nothing heroic about it. At best he "stopped" Luthor during those initial events, but even then Luthor was dying of super cancer anyways. Not much of a win.
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This.
Sir_Crocodile
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OOA isn't a superhero though
BKatastrophe
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But they've watched the show
God this is so damn dumb. I hate Flash.
WaterAstro
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Hulk's power greatly varies because he's not that angry all the time.
That stupid grin he is making really sells it.
Wait until I get home
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Zatana?
Why because you want think of heroes more powerful?
Their are some.
Calling heroes op is dumb
BKatastrophe
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Yeah, but Thanos one-shotting Hulk back to where he jumped from never gets old. Even then, cosmically, Hulk isn't up there. On Earth? Oh yeah, definitely. Out in the cosmos? Eh. Take it or leave it.
Oh I bet
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Miranda!
Seems to be no limits to her powers beyond an unwillingness to mess with the narrative of a story.
Seems to be no limits to her powers beyond an unwillingness to mess with the narrative of a story.
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Miranda!
Seems to be no limits to her powers beyond an unwillingness to mess with the narrative of a story.
I still haven't finished that story. I really need to.
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Are there any applicants for the title who haven't been killed? Because I'd tend to give them priority interviews. I don't know, "Got Killed" reads bad on a resume for "Most Powerful Superhero".
Everyone dies
When Superman feels like he has a more grounded powerset, you know your hero has a problem.
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