cormack12
Gold Member
There will be spoilers to significant arcs and major characters in this thread from both games. Do not read if you want to avoid. I thought it was an in interesting topic just because of the difference in the ways they went out. There are still some people unhappy with Arthur's end (based on what John does in RDR), or just how he was treated, and there are those who actually hate the way ND did Joel over.
For context the fate of the characters are below:
Joel
At the end of TLOU, Joel rescues Ellie and in doing so makes a choice to kill a surgeon about to operate on her. This surgeon had a daughter (the now infamous Abby), who effectively makes it her quest to find Joel and avenge her father. An opportune meeting whilst out on this quest brings the two together. Joel and his brother intervene to actually save Abby from the infected (some would argue this is a far cray from the first game where Joel actively drove past those in need in the first game).
After this, there are introductions (where Abby realises 'Joel') and Abby invites them both back to her settlement. Anyway long story short she eventually brutally beats him and finishes him off with a golf club to the skull while a prostrate Ellie is forced to watch in horror. The story then picks up from there.
Arthur Morgan
Arthur's ending is a bit more complex as there are potentially three endings. But to sum up, Arthur - towards the end of the game - is diagnosed with TB. In those days, it's effectively a death sentence and he is terminally declining. You have a choice to make at the end of the game which is
Help friend escape
Go back for the money
If you've been honorable in the story mode (morality), then a scuffle ends and you are left on the mountain, exhausted and weak and eventually die in the morning sunrise
If you've been dishonorable, Arthur laments the lives they've led and says they are all horrible people. He is then shot in the head by his rival in the gang.
If you choose to go back for the money and abandon your friend, then you get stabbed to death by your rival in the gang after outing him as a mole.
After this, John Marstons story picks up and segues into what we know as RDR.
So who stuck the landing better?
For context the fate of the characters are below:
Joel
At the end of TLOU, Joel rescues Ellie and in doing so makes a choice to kill a surgeon about to operate on her. This surgeon had a daughter (the now infamous Abby), who effectively makes it her quest to find Joel and avenge her father. An opportune meeting whilst out on this quest brings the two together. Joel and his brother intervene to actually save Abby from the infected (some would argue this is a far cray from the first game where Joel actively drove past those in need in the first game).
After this, there are introductions (where Abby realises 'Joel') and Abby invites them both back to her settlement. Anyway long story short she eventually brutally beats him and finishes him off with a golf club to the skull while a prostrate Ellie is forced to watch in horror. The story then picks up from there.
Arthur Morgan
Arthur's ending is a bit more complex as there are potentially three endings. But to sum up, Arthur - towards the end of the game - is diagnosed with TB. In those days, it's effectively a death sentence and he is terminally declining. You have a choice to make at the end of the game which is
Help friend escape
Go back for the money
If you've been honorable in the story mode (morality), then a scuffle ends and you are left on the mountain, exhausted and weak and eventually die in the morning sunrise
If you've been dishonorable, Arthur laments the lives they've led and says they are all horrible people. He is then shot in the head by his rival in the gang.
If you choose to go back for the money and abandon your friend, then you get stabbed to death by your rival in the gang after outing him as a mole.
After this, John Marstons story picks up and segues into what we know as RDR.
So who stuck the landing better?