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Why am I expected to tip 20% in Canada?
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La Shop on St.Denis
3 dollar entrance and 2 dollar mixed drinks.
Wouldn't be caught dead in there, but it exists.
When it's basically mandatory - I take offense at making me go through mental arithmetics - ie. not even the bill itself (which already adds taxes not on the menu, which I also have a problem with) is the actual price you're paying.tghm1801 said:
Eg. in some countries 10% service charge is added to every bill, so you don't have to recompute what the number is supposed to be for no-one's benefit in particular.
Admittedly in my most recent experience with US restaurants I see "suggested tip value" on the bills, precalculated for multiple % denominations - which is a welcome improvement.
I'd still prefer to just see it attached to menu prices (it's not like US restaurants are particularly cheap as is - so I don't see how 20% you're expected to pay is really roping in anyone anymore).
Strictly speaking the main reason restaurants get to charge a premium is for the service on their premises, not the food itself.
old
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While this is about Canada, the problem is the same in America. It used to be 13%. Then it was 15%. Then 18%. Now it's 20% and I'm already seeing growing numbers of associates who like to knock it up to 25%.
Where does this end!?
Let's just get this over with. I'm tired of the slow creep. I'll bring the deed to my house the next time I eat out. You served me a burger and refilled my drink twice. Obviously, you deserve my house. I'll go eat out one more time and then I'll just hit up vending machines for the rest of my life.
Where does this end!?
Let's just get this over with. I'm tired of the slow creep. I'll bring the deed to my house the next time I eat out. You served me a burger and refilled my drink twice. Obviously, you deserve my house. I'll go eat out one more time and then I'll just hit up vending machines for the rest of my life.
I mean, this is a poor standard to base your assumptions on Quebec waiting and prices if it's from a gimmick bar on the plateau...
And I agree, I wouldn't go there either because I assume I would be treated like trash aswell. High traffic gimmick places are the worst for service quality.
arts&crafts
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I think 15% is customary in Canada. When you use debit or credit card usually the options are none 15% or Other amount when adding tip.
Killa Sasa
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Think it was Sir Winston Churchill Pub, which is the not the name I would've expected for a dance-y place. Had a good ass time though.
Broke my brain too. Didn't know any better I suppose *shrug*
It was just some shitty BeefEater, but if that's the norm, hey, I'll play ball next time.
Percentage creep up here - they can hold that noise, but if it's low enough (like this 3 dollar drink case), I don't mind doing a 100% tip. Still cheaper than getting a drink in most other cities anyway.
Buba Big Guns
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Ive never seen anyone tip 20% here.
I was just pointing out that it exists, but obviously your point stands. I go to L'Barouf next door and always hear people talking about it.
I remember when that place was strictly a pub and not a club. I'm old.
old
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Where's this magical technoland?
Where do you live, the future?
Tip cause you're not a cheap asshole. I don't want to be friends with someone who doesn't tip. That's fucking tacky.
When you're tipping 9/10 times those tips are being split amongst all the staff.
Tip 15% for average service tip 10% for a buffet tip 20% for good service or if your bill is small like at breakfast.
When you're tipping 9/10 times those tips are being split amongst all the staff.
Tip 15% for average service tip 10% for a buffet tip 20% for good service or if your bill is small like at breakfast.
This.
I almost got my ass kicked once in Toronto because some friends left and gave no tip, so the waiter wanted me to cover for them and I refused (and it was a huge bill, I don't have like 50 dollars to give willy nilly for shit other people did)
jadedm17
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To Ensure Promptness.
Im a server, don't tip shitty service. Tip accordingly. We earn our tips based on service, were not owed tips for showing up.
Anecdotal but my brother was harassed by a waiter outside of a restaurant in the US after he left without tipping because he forgot about it. I'm pretty sure the waiter was fired afterwards though.
Ignoring the money for a moment, it's absolutely infuriating to have to do math puzzles and social engineering every time you go to a restaurant or, thanks to taxes, in a store. It's dumb. Just tell me what a thing actually costs. I will pay it.
This is way harder than just taking ten percent and adding half again
90 dollar meal
9 bux plus 4.50 = 13.50. Round up to 15 cause you're not a shit.
Canadian here. I don't think I'm expected to top 20%, am I? I've worked as a bartender, and I'm just grateful for whatever people gave me. They owed me nothing, what ever I got was awesome. I didn't work any harder than my employees in the same establishment (but in positions that didn't get tips), why should I get more?
I tip approx 15% most of the time, sometimes down to 10% or so if I wasn't happy with the service. I think one time I tipped nothing because the service was shit, but that's not often.
I tip approx 15% most of the time, sometimes down to 10% or so if I wasn't happy with the service. I think one time I tipped nothing because the service was shit, but that's not often.
jadedm17
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Insure, I'm half drunk right now texting from a Walmart parking lot. Whatever it means, I'm saying fucking obligations and pay according to servic.
No one is forcing people to work there. I tip when the service is above average, otherwise I'm a cheap asshole by your definition.
DeadlyParasite
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Shit, you guys and gals would hate me then.
A lot of the times I tip more than the cost of the meal itself. People give me weird looks for it, especially the waiters/waitresses. One time I went to that Gretsky's bar a couple years back during a vacation in downtown Toronto with my friend and I felt so awkward and out of place that I tipped the girl $50 because I felt bad for making her put up with us. She thought I made a mistake on the machine, was pretty funny when I told her it wasn't. I didn't care if it got split or not.
I guess I do it because of some misguided sympathy for having worked in retail myself for many years.
A lot of the times I tip more than the cost of the meal itself. People give me weird looks for it, especially the waiters/waitresses. One time I went to that Gretsky's bar a couple years back during a vacation in downtown Toronto with my friend and I felt so awkward and out of place that I tipped the girl $50 because I felt bad for making her put up with us. She thought I made a mistake on the machine, was pretty funny when I told her it wasn't. I didn't care if it got split or not.
I guess I do it because of some misguided sympathy for having worked in retail myself for many years.
I've never tipped for a drink ever. Never ever.
Okay thats a lie but I never had service refused because I didn't tip and thats the truth.
I'll tip a cab driver and at a restaurant but rarely will I tip at a bar. Not sure why that is but bar service always seemed shitty to me, waiting a half hour to be served a drink when Party A gets rounds without any wait time always bothered the hell out of me. Not all bars but most I've been to.
You wait a half hour because you don't tip. Seriously.
Make friends with your bartenders. Tip them well. They'll serve you first, they'll make your drinks stronger and often times give you free drinks and shots.
Scotscience
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Both states I have lived in, Oregon and Washington, pay at least minimum wage on top of tips. There are actually 8 states in the US, like Canada, that require this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States
I have not noticed cheaper food prices when crossing to a state that does not have mandatory minimum wages for tipped employees. Our waiters/waitresses have it good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States
I have not noticed cheaper food prices when crossing to a state that does not have mandatory minimum wages for tipped employees. Our waiters/waitresses have it good.
ChainedMaster
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Same. I've tripped 20%. It's usually just a few extra dollars.
SneakyStephan
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Gaf tipping threads have made me stop tipping the pizza delivery guy after realising it's just charity compensating for employers not paying their employees enough.
Buuuut you still order from that place don't you?
Then you should stop ordering pizza and go get it. Those guys generally use their own vehicles, pay for their own gas and have to pay for the pizzas that are late out of their own pocket. You're essentially colluding with the pizza place owner to exploit the delivery guy.
Edit : you're also indirectly colluding with the delivery guy to wipe his ass with one of your slices next time you order. Enjoy!
You pick your battles, I will just get better and faster service than you.
They already charge delivery fee and want tip on top of that? Yeah no.
See my edit. Hope you like tainted pizza!
20% is a bit high , that's like the kind of tip you give out if you've been a drunk asshole at a table full of drunk assholes for 2 + hours and some poor girl has to deal with you.
15% is still , as far as I know , a "good" tip. I usually go up to 18% unless the service was nothing special.
Course that's if paying by debit card where you can usually punch in a %. If paying in cash , I consider it kind of rude to ask for change unless you only have rather high bills. A meal + drink tends to be pretty close to 20$ so I tend to just throw 2-3 dollars more on there if I have it. Or I'll hand over 25$ and not take change.
15% is still , as far as I know , a "good" tip. I usually go up to 18% unless the service was nothing special.
Course that's if paying by debit card where you can usually punch in a %. If paying in cash , I consider it kind of rude to ask for change unless you only have rather high bills. A meal + drink tends to be pretty close to 20$ so I tend to just throw 2-3 dollars more on there if I have it. Or I'll hand over 25$ and not take change.
Warm Machine
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It is 15% on the pre tax total as default. You can go lower or higher.
Don't give a shit.
Fixed that for you
edit: While people most likely expect a tip in Ontario, I've never been to a place where people soured on me. Then again, I've rarely not left tip (and when I didn't tip, service was atrocious/rude).
20% tip in the case of outstanding service for me. It's rare that I do that.
Liberty4all
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I do 15 - 20 percent but 15 is pretty standard in Toronto.
Messofanego
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Didn't know Canadians also had to tip. The more you know.
shadyspace
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They do everything we do. But with more smug.
Boom Boom Pow
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wait. i just realize. why are you guys (canadians) still tipping when your restaurants folks are all making at least minimum wage (or in some cases, decent money)?
i'm assuming the food is more expensive because the wage is higher, so not only are you paying higher food, you're also tipping on top of that?
I mean, 5% over is still 5% over.
i'm assuming the food is more expensive because the wage is higher, so not only are you paying higher food, you're also tipping on top of that?
I mean, 5% over is still 5% over.
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