Carnby
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I wish I had time to play video games. I haven't played a game since classes started in January.
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Why are so many people such physically broken messes?
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I wish I had time to play video games. I haven't played a game since classes started in January.
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Deleted member 17706
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Not at all. I can't blame him from taking some leisure time during a hectic lifestyle like that. With that said, his "I don't have time," excuse is demonstrably false by his postings on NeoGAF (unless, of course, he's doing that while at work).
Z_Y
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It's the only group pasty white skinny nerds can shit on. Circle of life and all that.
Damn these long commutes..they literally kill you.
My biggest fear on parenthood is health going down the toilet. Probably means no more hobbies, but I need to find the time to workout.
If it's limited I will just have to cut back on calories. If I don't put an effort into it I will literally pay for it later. Medical bills can put you in the poor house.
Carnby
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I said it already, you try living like this, and see how you feel when gaf tells you how to spend your free time.
Your cheap generalizations are no better, and I am not even sure who you are addressing by this post.
''Move more/eat less'' works for everyone. It is not easy for everyone, but it always has the same effect.
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Deleted member 17706
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No thanks, I'd rather not try to kill myself like you seem to be doing.
Steve Youngblood
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But, again, I would note that before attempting to address that rationale, the crux of the issue does not rest on the individual literally not having any free time. If you want something bad enough, you can probably make time for it. This is almost always true.
But it's only true, though, when you focus in on one activity. There are other concerns people have besides health/fitness that are also competing for an ostensibly limited amount of free time. Cliched as it sounds, there are a finite number of hours in a day. Prioritizing exercise invariably means that something else is being neglected.
Not for people that have mobility issues, or have medication that affects weight...
I was addressing GAF as a (almost)whole because GAF as a (almost)whole likes to assume fat people are that way due to being lazy which might be true some of the time, but it's not ALL of the time...
There are a few sensible people that come along in these "burn the fatties" threads but not many.
Whatever however, the dead horse has been beaten so badly, and there is only dust left. Maybe some lazy fat person can roll along on there scooter and eat that so we won't have to have the same discussion for the billionth time.
If you have time to watch TV/PlayVideogames/etc..you have time to work out.
Or maybe you do that because you are too tired to workout?
Ok, why not go to sleep then.
Because now, not only are you not working out, but also not getting enough sleep.
Some people like single parents might have legitimate excuses, but I figure a shit ton people don't. Still no excuse for jamming so much food down your throat. Hell you might save money by buying LESS food. If you can only afford junk food eat less of it.
Or maybe you do that because you are too tired to workout?
Ok, why not go to sleep then.
Because now, not only are you not working out, but also not getting enough sleep.
Some people like single parents might have legitimate excuses, but I figure a shit ton people don't. Still no excuse for jamming so much food down your throat. Hell you might save money by buying LESS food. If you can only afford junk food eat less of it.
HarryHengst
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Thats what the US government recommends? No wonder so many Americans are fat with such carb overload combined with lack of exercise.
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Deleted member 17706
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Oh, I can totally relate with that. That's why the accurate thing to say is not "I don't have time," but "I'm not willing to prioritize my health and wellbeing over other things I want in life."
Luckily, there's an easy way to be relatively healthy and not be overweight without exercise by simply eating foods that don't make you fat!
Absolutely, food is 70% of the equation. At least you won't be fat, but the sedatery life style will still lead to an early grave unfortunately.
I'm going to have to make an effort to be very active with my future kids. Videogames will be going away for awhile :\
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Basically. And there's so much inertia that you can't expect for it to change anytime soon. You can lose weight or maintain on a diet that carb heavy, but it isn't going to be easy.
Steve Youngblood
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That's true. But the other big part of the obesity epidemic is that it's often easier, quicker, and cheaper -- at least in perception -- to acquire food that isn't so great for you.
diffusionx
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Working out is like 20% of the equation. The problem is FOOD. And while it's easy for a 150 pound 19 year old fighting the freshman 15 to cut down on food for a bit (which is why their opinion is worthless), it's not so easy for a 35 year old man or woman. Look at the Cracked.com article someone posted up thread.
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fat-officially-incurable-according-to-science/
Like someone said earlier the only solution is to never get fat. This is why childhood obesity is such a huge problem! But we are more interested in the profits of sugar and "food" companies than the wellbeing of our next generation. It's why Congress takes time out of its schedule to classify pizza sauce as a vegetable.
Speedymanic
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I like to think I'm not sheltered, but GODDAMN. O_O
How can these people not feel an ounce of shame or embarrassment? Maybe that's not acceptable language, but, just wow, I'm lost for words.
Jesus Christ. O_O
I'm honestly lost for words.
Well I'm nowhere close to being obese now, and never have. My goal is to NEVER get there.
Is that article true? damn.....
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Unfortunately I was overweight in high school. I lost a bunch in college because the food was shit, and later I was able to lose even more on a very low carb diet.
I decided to start working out and gained back a bunch of the weight as I was bulking, and then when I tried to diet and cut down on the fat it was pretty much impossible for me to lose it again without going to extremes. Sucks. I'm bulking again, but I think after I'm going to do another low carb thing and hope that works out. sigh
Being a fat child in your past sucks dick.
diffusionx
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Yea, same.
I've seen articles on it before. NY Times Magazine had an article last year or so that talked about the process by which a formerly fat person stays skinny. Honestly it sounded fucking miserable. Imagine a heroin addict that had to take heroin regularly just to stay alive. Except, you know, not too much.
Found it: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-fat-trap.html?pagewanted=all
Just curious, what extremes did you have to go to?
I'm trying to cut weight now and haven't had much progress after 2 months of low carb and keeping things at 1700 calories. I used to be obese 7 years ago.
HarryHengst
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Seriously, 300 grams of carbs is so much. Thats what i would eat if i was doing really heavy workouts 4 times a week and trying to bulk without caring about getting fat for a while, not during an average day. :lol
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That article really pisses me off. "We monitored dieters who lost weight on extremely low-calorie diets, but miraculously they gained it all back!"
"While dieting, the hormone ghrelin shot up. It was like their body thought it was starving when these poor chaps were just trying to lose weight!"
Well no fucking shit your body thought it was starving on an extremely calorie-restricted diet. It was!
Until this calories-in/calories out/chronic cardio nonsense stops being the "conventional wisdom," not many people are going to lose weight.
While I do agree that a large amount of the time people could take many steps to improve their health that they do not, we are most certainly not doing everything we can to help improve the situation.
Whether it's tons of subsidized fillers like HFGS in food, "healthy" options almost certainly being substantially more expensive than the "crap" options from the dollar menu, or just a general lack of awareness of what you are really eating and how it can affect you, I really can't say. There's not a one size fits all solution to this (no pun intended) but there are certainly things that we as a society aren't doing that we should.
Why aren't we subsidizing the healthier/organic food and letting the corn/soda/whatever market fend for itself? Where IS the produce section in disenfranchised inner-city Safeways and the like? What about the food we serve the children at school during the day?
I mean, we can blame whoever we want but that's not going to do much, particularly when no single entity can take all of the blame for such a large amount of the populace being overweight, and we all have to pay for it one way or the other.
Whether it's tons of subsidized fillers like HFGS in food, "healthy" options almost certainly being substantially more expensive than the "crap" options from the dollar menu, or just a general lack of awareness of what you are really eating and how it can affect you, I really can't say. There's not a one size fits all solution to this (no pun intended) but there are certainly things that we as a society aren't doing that we should.
Why aren't we subsidizing the healthier/organic food and letting the corn/soda/whatever market fend for itself? Where IS the produce section in disenfranchised inner-city Safeways and the like? What about the food we serve the children at school during the day?
I mean, we can blame whoever we want but that's not going to do much, particularly when no single entity can take all of the blame for such a large amount of the populace being overweight, and we all have to pay for it one way or the other.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
I didn't track calories, but people were telling me it was kind of crazy when I told them how much I ate. It was probably about 1200 calories a day, but I wasn't ever really starving.
edit: I wasn't exercising at the time.
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Deleted member 17706
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In a day where you aren't very active, getting by on 1200 calories is perfectly reasonable.
If that came in the form of ribeye steak, for example, I'd probably have a hard time finishing it even if I split it across two meals.
Dog Problems
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Because of Oreo donuts and Creamsicle Oreo's.
I think it's the same thing when you ask a drug addict why he doesn't feel ashamed from looking so haggard and begging for money to buy more drugs. I'm sure there is some shame and embarrassment but people end up not caring. There addiction becomes too much without outside intervention. Not everybody has to willpower to do it by themselves.
DR2K
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It is available though. On most of their food menu items. Numbers that people don't understand aren't going to make people healthier. Nor is fast food to blame for the obesity epidemic, it's mostly the stuff with all the caloric information like Sodas that are causing people to gain weight.
Zero Hero
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An EMP would render thousands of these people crippled.
Yeah I'm still lifting heavy. Sucks, man.
They probably forgot how to walk.
If you have a disability then use it all you want. If you're just being a lazy fuck then come on now.
Now that's a classy lady.
Vicetrailia
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Not for me, I'm too lazy and not into micromanaging like that, despite knowing that what you eat is the most important. I just work out and try to mind what I eat.
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Deleted member 17706
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Once you're eating the right foods and sending your body the proper signals so that it can regulate itself, it's best to just follow your hunger. By micromanaging portions and caloric counts, you could be overfeeding or underfeeding yourself just to meet some arbitrary number you plugged into a spreadsheet.
maybe they are takin a shortcut to the AutoZone next door.
There are no excuses for being overweight unless you truly have a medical condition. You can learn to eat healthy, what foods to avoid, etc. A simple google search would help even the most ignorant person with this.
I should know, I've battled weight since I was 11 and I'm turning 47 soon. About five years ago I was pushing 220 lbs. and I'm about 5'5" on a GOOD day. I couldn't even walk up a set of stairs without working up a sweat and losing my breath. Back in June of 08 I drew a line in the sand and was determined to do something about my horrible health. Now I am in the best shape of my life. An old timer at the gym who won a bodybuilding contest in the 60's told me the other day that I should seriously compete in a physique competition (I'm a natural bodybuilder). I was totally flattered, here is a guy who knows. It comes down to:
aerobic exercise
anaerobic exercise
diet
That's it, like it's always been. And I started when I was 42. There are guys in their 50's and 60's that are incredibly muscular and ripped. The "it's too late for me, I'm in my 30's already" excuse is just that, an excuse.
Yes, in the beginning it is hard. No one said it's easy transforming your body. You do have to bust your butt. But when I see an infomercial for some weight loss product that actually said you could lose weight by eating MORE and working out LESS. Well there you go...everyone wants to take the easy way out.
I should know, I've battled weight since I was 11 and I'm turning 47 soon. About five years ago I was pushing 220 lbs. and I'm about 5'5" on a GOOD day. I couldn't even walk up a set of stairs without working up a sweat and losing my breath. Back in June of 08 I drew a line in the sand and was determined to do something about my horrible health. Now I am in the best shape of my life. An old timer at the gym who won a bodybuilding contest in the 60's told me the other day that I should seriously compete in a physique competition (I'm a natural bodybuilder). I was totally flattered, here is a guy who knows. It comes down to:
aerobic exercise
anaerobic exercise
diet
That's it, like it's always been. And I started when I was 42. There are guys in their 50's and 60's that are incredibly muscular and ripped. The "it's too late for me, I'm in my 30's already" excuse is just that, an excuse.
Yes, in the beginning it is hard. No one said it's easy transforming your body. You do have to bust your butt. But when I see an infomercial for some weight loss product that actually said you could lose weight by eating MORE and working out LESS. Well there you go...everyone wants to take the easy way out.
>.>;, it's too cheap =[
Gross.
I don't understand how people drink/eat all that stuff.
Speedymanic
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Out of interest, what's the sugar content of those drinks?
Can people who are too fat to walk legally considered handicapped? And if so are they allowed to park in handicapped spots?
eternaLightness
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I see this everyday in the store I work at. Doesn't help that there are the ladies that give out free samples each day.
I have allergies, and I may take an over the counter Allegra if they are particularly bad, but nothing so bad that I need a prescription med. And asthma does make you somewhat sickly. I'm not saying it's weird; it's just that your not completely healthy.
I know obesity is something that has really gotten out of hand in recent years, but what about all these other maladies? Have people ALWAYS been sickly and the science/medicine wasn't there, or are people getting sicklier? I pray for my kids. Hope they don't turn out sickly.
Speedymanic
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do you mean squeezed or just water with some cucumber sticks thrown in?
I slice the cucumbers. Probably 4 slices is good for a couple of refills.
If you like how cucumbers smell (and why wouldn't you) you will definitely like how water with cucumbers tastes.
ClassyPenguin
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Yes and no.
People were much sicker before running water, and germ theory.
With more advances in medicine, our definition of diseases and the types of diseases become more broad, and are easier to catch.
Speedymanic
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Cool, I'm definitely going to give this a try.
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Yes. I know someone who has a handicap pass because he is morbidly obese. Technically, I think he got it for claiming back pains (due to obesity), but the result is the same.
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