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[a Master Ninja]

The 360 S and E were both technically spec bumped slightly but throttled.

I may be wrong.

This is news to me. I'd like to know more.

 

[Prototype Viktor]

? Because Apple hasn't invented it yet ¿

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yes I know I got the ? Flipped

 

[arhra]

This is news to me. I'd like to know more.

I suspect what he's thinking of is the fact that when they combined the CPU/GPU into a single-die SoC, they had to add some buffering on the bus between them, to artificially replicate the latency of chip-to-chip communication and match the timings of the older system, just in case there were any possible race conditions or other bugs lying in wait in existing software that were masked by that latency.

 

[The Real Napsta]

I suspect what he's thinking of is the fact that when they combined the CPU/GPU into a single-die SoC, they had to add some buffering on the bus between them, to artificially replicate the latency of chip-to-chip communication and match the timings of the older system, just in case there were any possible race conditions or other bugs lying in wait in existing software that were masked by that latency.

Interesting.

 

[mclem]

Because that's what the rumors say - the PS4k will merely run PS4 software at higher resolutions, not it's own software.

At what point do we draw the line? If a game runs on both systems, but many players would regard it as something approaching 'unplayable' on the base PS4, are they regarded as having met their requirements to support the baseline unit? How do we judge the Skyrim-on-PS3 sort of situation? That was 'good enough'.

Some guarantees on that sort of thing would be a reassurance. Ultimately I find it hard to believe that exclusives will never exist for the newer system, whether explicitly exclusive or implicitly exclusive in the manner described above.

Also, where do we go next? Do we get a hypothetical Neo 2 in place of the PS5? What are the terms for the games that release on that platform? Does the Neo still run them? Does the base PS4?

 

[Vincent Grayson]

Because Sony is releasing a more powerful PS4.

And seriously, if devs are willing to ignore ~50 million Old 3DS users, why wouldn't they be willing to ignore 40 million base PS4 users. Of course not everyone (or even most of them) will, but there will most likely be some that do.

Because (assuming everything leaked is true) Sony is literally telling them that they will not be allowed to do so and won't be granted license to publish PS4 Neo-only games.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Your examples aren't upgraded hardware, like we're seeing with PS4 Neo.

A CDX and TurboDuo were just all in one units of existing hardware. Capabilities weren't upgraded.

The Atari 7800 was a brand new system that debuted loooong after Atari 2600.

Coleco Adam was Coleco trying to get into the educational/computer market, with the ability to play Colecovision games.

 

[phyrlord]

For the same reason why people think MS copied APPLE with the surface, mean while MS had been making tablets since 2001.

 

[GHG]

For the same reason why people think MS copied APPLE with the surface, mean while MS had been making tablets since 2001.

And apple have been doing it since 1993...

The first iPad was a gamechanger. It changed the way we think about tablets and caused everyone else to try and make something similar. That is why people see the surface or any other competing devices as a "copy" of the iPad.

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Wait... What has this got to do with this thread?

 

[TGO]

Its not a untested idea, it's a failed one.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Not untested but it's obvious a lot of people are interested in the ps4k. Sony needs to play their cards right and have an uhd drive inside this thing and it should sell tons.

 

[Pokemaniac]

Because (assuming everything leaked is true) Sony is literally telling them that they will not be allowed to do so and won't be granted license to publish PS4 Neo-only games.

I'll be shocked if such a limited licensing system persists for the full lifetime of the system. This is like the opposite of Sony's normal 3rd party friendliness. It really seems like arrogant Sony is back.

 

[Krejlooc]

All the variations of Amiga did this. From memory, you could play games but new ones would be better on a Amiga 1200, for example.

For a long time, many many a500 titles would not run properly on an a1200 (until whdload was created), and a1200 titles would not run in the a500 at all. So no, it's not like the ps4/ps4k at all.