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"Why are you hacking your PSP?": Asks Sony

cryptic said:
I have a DS and a PSP but I never play the former.

That's personal preference. But on average, you can't debate the fact that the DS is getting more games. Plus, hacking the PSP has a bunch of distinct advantages - no loading times, playing PS1 games, etc.

EDIT: Hehe, 2 posts both said personal preference.
 
Stumpokapow said:
I hacked my PSP, in order of importance, because:
- Can bring all my games with me.
- Can play my legal PSX games on POPs.
- No load times.
- In-game screenshot functionality.
- Better battery life.
- Homebrew apps.
- Custom themes / UI customization
- Upclock processor (no longer an issue going forward, since games can do it)
- To allow me to have control over a device that I bought rather than being at the mercy of potential future mandatory updates that include features or drawbacks that I don't want to deal with.


That's about the only think that would make me hack my PSP. Seeing as how I haven't gotten around to it for the past 4 months must mean I don't really care. If the SNES rom scene was better I bet I would be more inclined.
 
as it´s been stated:

-Playing my psx games on the go without paying them twice
-Selecting between different versions of the PSX emulator for maximun compatibily/speed
-333mhz FTW
-Emulators
-Ebook readers
-To stop the anoying umd drive
-Battery
-Instead of going to work with the psp + 6/8 umd I can bring just the psp. Same with travelling away.
-MP3 low comsumption player
-Better speed on MS (Sony updated the driver for MS on 3.80? and broke it, 3.72 version patch for 3.90M33 works wonders)
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
Would a pandora battery work on FW 3.93 or whatever is the newest one?
Yeah. Outside a major hardware revision there's no way for Sony to block the Pandora system because that's how they themselves fix bricked PSPs. Even when the slims came out, the hackers got Pandora working with them in a matter of days.
 
I'm not going to get involved in the ongoing CFW = piracy bullshittery that manifests itself in just about every thread, but I can confirm that this survey is real. I got it. And it was done by a third party, surveymonkeys.com, IIRC.
 
Mejilan said:
I'm not going to get involved in the ongoing CFW = piracy bullshittery that manifests itself in just about every thread, but I can confirm that this survey is real. I got it. And it was done by a third party, surveymonkeys.com, IIRC.

Was there a spot to give comments? Like "I put CFW on my machine so that I could actually use it properly, thanks for crippling your hardware"?
 
I hack my PSP because a hacked PSP allows me access to better services than Sony's official firmware. I hack it because I can rip my games for incredibly fast loading and bettery battery life.

If Sony were to offer me this in official firmware, I'd use official firmware. For the PSP2, if Sony keeps these ideals in mind (fast loading, long battery life) to begin with then people won't have to hack their PSP!

For the record, I don't care about looking like a rebel :lol

(And I own a shitton of PSP games.)
 
Dragona Akehi said:
Was there a spot to give comments? Like "I put CFW on my machine so that I could actually use it properly, thanks for crippling your hardware"?

The majority of the answers were not satisfactory, IMHO. It was a poorly worded survey with poorly worded responses. I actually don't remember if there was a general comment box. I think there was, but that it required that you input your email address. That's where I drew the line and left things anonymous.
 
Mejilan said:
The majority of the answers were not satisfactory, IMHO. It was a poorly worded survey with poorly worded responses. I actually don't remember if there was a general comment box. I think there was, but that it required that you input your email address. That's where I drew the line and left things anonymous.

The majority of the answers are geared towards painting all CFWs as dirty pirates. :P
 
Dragona Akehi said:
The majority of the answers are geared towards painting all CFWs as dirty pirates. :P

When your software sells are as bad as the PSP, what else can you really blame? Multi-media functions? Gimme a break, and this is coming from someone who loves his CFW PSP.
 
JudgeN said:
When your software sells are as bad as the PSP, what else can you really blame? Multi-media functions? Gimme a break, and this is coming from someone who loves his CFW PSP.

You'll notice the bolded word in my post.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
You'll notice the bolded word in my post.

I know what your saying and its not fair but from Sony stand point, they really don't have any other way of looking at it. If I was in there shoes I would probably generalize everyone as pirates too when you have 30+ million PSP systems and all your games average 100k sales.
 
I have no use for a hacked firmware. The official one do what I need... Play aac, h264 and Internet radio/RSS shows.
What other media features do a hacked firmware add?
 
I would put CFW on my PSP...if I didn't own a lite :/ Although if they produced a UMD ripper so I could just hold my games on a mem stick, i'd settle for that.
 
Sylar said:
I would put CFW on my PSP...if I didn't own a lite :/ Although if they produced a UMD ripper so I could just hold my games on a mem stick, i'd settle for that.

Uh, CFW has a ripper built in. If you have a Windows machine, you simply toggle the USB to "UMD Drive" and drag and drop the UMD ISO to your computer.

PS: Slims can be hacked just fine.
 
Y2Kev said:
I hack my PSP because a hacked PSP allows me access to better services than Sony's official firmware. I hack it because I can rip my games for incredibly fast loading and bettery battery life.

If Sony were to offer me this in official firmware, I'd use official firmware. For the PSP2, if Sony keeps these ideals in mind (fast loading, long battery life) to begin with then people won't have to hack their PSP!
Yes, precisely these truths.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
It's really simple. Check out the CFW thread.

You guys should start a service where we can send in our batterys at our own risk to one of you experts and like $10 to get it hacked.
 
Nothing is easier than the DS to "hack" you buy a card and dump on roms and that is it.

PSP is more invovled to hack, although it too doesn't require physical modification or disassembly.

The PSP hacks are far more legit though....the list of reasons on this thread sum it up. Once the CFW was all figured out I bought a PSP again, and actually bought Patapon before my PSP and other games were delivered.

There is just no comparison to an unhacked psp and a hacked one....slower games run smoother now (333 all around), loading times, esp using ISOs is lighting fast...like so much faster they now loading icon is completely useless. Battery life better, carry more with you, no problem with damaged UMDs....the list goes on.
 
Geez... can we add peer pressure to the list? The way Dragona and Meji push CFW, you'd think they stock in it or something. Anyway, if Sony wants to stop it, there's 3 basic things they can do:

1) Provide a safe and secure method for installing PSP UMDs to MS.
2) Provide a safe and secure method for installing PS1 games to MS.
3) Open the platform to homebrew development.

If they do that, there's pretty much no major reason to mod the PSP... but then battery sales would go down... >.>
 
Sylar said:
I'm going to kill you ptaaty, now I really want to slice my battery :(

You don't need to slice your battery. Seriously check the CFW thread out. You buy a TOOL battery from Datel, run a couple of programs on your Windows machine and you make your OWN pandora without any soldering.

Mefisutoferesu said:
Geez... can we add peer pressure to the list? The way Dragona and Meji push CFW, you'd think they stock in it or something. Anyway, if Sony wants to stop it, there's 3 basic things they can do:

1) Provide a safe and secure method for installing PSP UMDs to MS.
2) Provide a safe and secure method for installing PS1 games to MS.
3) Open the platform to homebrew development.

If they do that, there's pretty much no major reason to mod the PSP... but then battery sales would go down... >.>

The fact is, a CFW PSP simply improves the machine into one of the best handhelds, ever. And I love my DS.

If we could do what is on your list, I probably wouldn't have CFWed my PSP. There are other uses I love about CFW, but those are the major issues.
 
Sylar said:
You guys should start a service where we can send in our batterys at our own risk to one of you experts and like $10 to get it hacked.

Why pay $10, I'll do it for free :D

If you're willing to live without your battery for a bit (and pay shipping), pop me a PM.
 
You don't need to slice your battery. Seriously check the CFW thread out. You buy a TOOL battery from Datel, run a couple of programs on your Windows machine and you make your OWN pandora without any soldering.

Key word there: buy.

Peronthious said:
Why pay $10, I'll do it for free :D

If you're willing to live without your battery for a bit (and pay shipping), pop me a PM.


:D :D :D Do you take paypal? :)
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
I have both and I play the former much more than the latter.

It is personal preference.

Yeah, I was passive aggressively knocking the troll I quoted.

EDIT:I'd also be willing to install CFW on slims for only the price of me shipping it back, which should be about 5-6 dollars.
 
Mejilan said:
The majority of the answers were not satisfactory, IMHO. It was a poorly worded survey with poorly worded responses. I actually don't remember if there was a general comment box. I think there was, but that it required that you input your email address. That's where I drew the line and left things anonymous.


My favorite:

Because it makes me feel brave and clever.
 
OK, so my PSP's firmware is the most recent (or the one before that) is CFW out of the question for me? If not I'll send in my battery or whatever to someone who can hook me up.
:D
 
NameGenerated said:
OK, so my PSP's firmware is the most recent (or the one before that) is CFW out of the question for me? If not I'll send in my battery or whatever to someone who can hook me up.
:D

No PSP is immune to Pandora.
 
NekoFever said:
Yeah. Outside a major hardware revision there's no way for Sony to block the Pandora system because that's how they themselves fix bricked PSPs. Even when the slims came out, the hackers got Pandora working with them in a matter of days.

Sorry to derail this thread, but since you are kind enough to answer the question, I will interject with another one.

What is the best place to buy Pandora batteries (places that are not shady), because I don't know anyone with a hacked PSP.

FYI, the big reason why I want to go custom firmware is because I am sick of PSP loading times for Sakura Taisen 1&2 and Crisis Core. I will only use the PSP for this reason, I have no interest in homebrew, no interest in emulation, and I definitely don't want to use this for "other" more shady things that lead to the PSP getting less games (if you get my drift).
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
Sorry to derail this thread, but since you are kind enough to answer the question, I will interject with another one.

What is the best place to buy Pandora batteries (places that are not shady), because I don't know anyone with a hacked PSP.

FYI, the big reason why I want to go custom firmware is because I am sick of PSP loading times for Sakura Taisen 1&2 and Crisis Core. I will only use the PSP for this reason, I have no interest in homebrew, no interest in emulation, and I definitely don't want to use this for "other" more shady things that lead to the PSP getting less games (if you get my drift).

http://us.codejunkies.com

i went the shady route and bought mine for 12$ from uxcell lol. don't think that site carries them anymore tho.
 
Death_Born said:
If hacking a PSP makes you feel brave, you really need to get out of the basement at least once a week.

Well the PSP is $170, so getting a replacement PSP is lots of money.

WickedLaharl said:
http://us.codejunkies.com

i went the shady route and bought mine for 12$ from uxcell lol. don't think that site carries them anymore tho.

Thanks, you have my eternal gratitude. When I get this in the mail, I will look for Meijian's big custom firmware thread.
 
WickedLaharl said:
but with pandora you can unbrick any psp. so there is no reason to be afraid at all anymore.

True, and if I ever have friends that buy a PSP, they may need it. Heck, my friend has a bricked PSP so it would already be useful for him.

Guess I should get that red tool battery.
 
you can buy pandora's + magic memory sticks on ebay for cheap. I went that route and have never looked back.
 
Ok, i just bought a service tool thing from Codejunkies, should I have bought the other one? And also where can I get this so called "magic memory stick"? I already own a 4 gig sandisk.
 
You turn your memory stick into a magic memory stick using a variety of different tools. Navanman's got a TotalNoobieInstaller tutorial up somewhere in this thread. That should allow you to create one with just Windows XP (no PSP needed).
 
iapetus said:
"If you hack your PSP and say you don't use it for warez, you're a liar in 90% of the cases" is an accusation, and it's one aimed squarely at people like Dragona and myself, and half a dozen of my friends, who hack our PSPs and don't use it for warez

How exactly is this "accusation" aimed at you if you're not part of the 90%? And how in the world can you feel offended if you're innocent? I explained what I meant - the world isn't filled with "serious nerds" like us, who actually care about keeping the developers alive etc etc. It's filled with people who just don't give a damn, and I have a feeling around 90% or more of the CFW users are people like that.

I would never accuse forumites on any gamer forum for being a pirate, unless it's obvious that he/she is. Because people who visit gaming forums are mostly serious about their hobby - the problem is that we are in no way representing the majority.

Unless the attitude towards piracy has changed drastically since the PS1 era, those who modify their hardware to play backups are more often than not pirates. I was one myself back then. Just about everyone I knew back then were pirates as well. Now it's vice versa. Which just goes to show that a) people change and b) using your friends as an example doesn't prove anything, since it's such a small part of the entire userbase.

There's a reason why you don't hire three people to represent an entire country for a survey.
 
NameGenerated said:
OK, so my PSP's firmware is the most recent (or the one before that) is CFW out of the question for me? If not I'll send in my battery or whatever to someone who can hook me up.
:D

I installed CFW on my Slim PSP two weeks ago, I had the official FW 3.93 installed. A friend of mine did it with his Pandora battery and the magic memory stick. I'm on 3.71 M33-4 right now.
 
So if I buy that PSP Service Tool, i'll be able to use it out of the box to hook up to my PSP Slim battery that came with the machine to get CFW?
 
Hmm this thread is making me want to buy a 12gig Memory Stick Pro and jump head first into CFW. I really would love being able to carry all of my games with me, I have two PSP's and actually use the little PSP travelers carry bag to take everything with me:lol
 
Sylar said:
So if I buy that PSP Service Tool, i'll be able to use it out of the box to hook up to my PSP Slim battery that came with the machine to get CFW?

it's an actual battery. You will need the TOOL battery + Magic Memory Stick (which you can make with the totalnewbieinstaller). It's not hard at all. I keep an extra pandora battery+magic memory stick just to be on the safe side.
 
alr1ghtstart said:
it's an actual battery. You will need the TOOL battery + Magic Memory Stick (which you can make with the totalnewbieinstaller). It's not hard at all. I keep an extra pandora battery+magic memory stick just to be on the safe side.
The service tool, which I just bought, claims to switch the battery back and forth between a Service battery and a regular one in seconds. The battery you buy can only be a Service battery I believe, it's also 5 dollars more.
 
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