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[TitusGroan]

Trade shows are not like music festivals, they're like the football world cup. And people can get very angry about football.

The World Cup is a clear-cut competition where teams are actually knocked out of the tournament, and there's a giant big golden physical trophy at the end for the winners.

Is there a Jules Rimet Trophy gleaming at E3 or Gamescom?

 

[Xenoflare]

Oh definitely. Gamers aren't some special breed of people that are totally different from everyone else. I just think that there's some unique circumstances in the gaming industry that lead gaming enthusiasts to act like immature, bratty children with things that come to their hobby. There's aspects of other hobbies that lead enthusiasts of those things to act in similar, eye-rolling ways as well.

And you're also right that much of the embarrassing behaviour seen is due to knee-jerk reactions. And that's something that's certainly not exclusive to gamers or gaming. People in general seem to have a hard time resisting the urge to jump to conclusions. People don't like to consider other viewpoints or see something from another perspective or fact check or educate themselves on a topic before deciding to judge. Its way easier to just throw something in a 'bad' category in your mind and then now that your mind is made up on that, you can continue to run off that conclusion and get upset about it and rant and act embarrassingly as a result. I see it everywhere and its very pronounced on the internet where everybody and their aunt feels compelled to share their opinion on everything.

While I am really appreciate for your comment (seriously, I cannot phrase it better), but I really do enjoy watching people being upset about something so insignificant, it's just so amusing.

Any in-depth fanbase of any media is prone to this, I think gamers just have most of the exposure due to comment sections, forums and social media. These kind of toxic behaviors are also why rabid fans would intimidate outsiders

"It's just a game dood"

"WHAT DID YOU SAY"

 

[Rozart]

I can understand that this sort of thing has been part of the industry for decades, so I don't get why people are still so surprised. Resident Evil started on the PS1. It jumped ship to Gamecube in almost the exact same manner Tomb Raider has to Xbox, yet all anyone ever says about RE4 now is how it's one of the best games ever. Final Fantasy jumped platform. Metal Gear has been dancing around platforms since the Eighties, occasionally being multiplat (MGS2 and 5), occasionally not (MGS3 and 4).

Why do people still get so angry about something that has been going on since gaming was first a medium? There's no guarantee that the new Tomb Raider won't come to PS4 at some point, same as how RE4 eventually came to PS2, so why not just wait and see, and enjoy some other stuff in the meantime?

Seriously? Those are exclusive games that went multiplatform. TR is a multiplatform game that suddenly went exclusive. Do you not see how they're two very different situations? One allows more gamers to play said game. The latter just restricts a huge chunk of people who are fans of the series from playing a game they're looking forward to.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

It's because gamers are arseholes.

 

[Finaika]

Gamers are more passionate.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

Betrayalatons

 

[TitusGroan]

Now imagine if certain films, highly anticipated films, were shown exclusively in certain theaters leaving out a portion of their audience because those theaters aren't readily available to them. Or music that is released and only made available to a certain brand of phones or music devices.

It's a flawed analogy simply because that's not the world we live in. The music and film industry just don't have to deal with those issues.

Netflix and Hulu get deals on different films to stream. They'll share some films, get other films as exclusives, and even produce their own content to act as first party offerings to entice viewers.

I've yet to see the outbreak of the Streaming Wars where Netflix and Hulu fans go at each other to argue which has the better service. Maybe it's not a perfect analogy, but those two services are now a huge part of the film industry, and the majority of film fans are just happy to watch what they want to watch, and not get too worked up about exclusivity on Netflix or Hulu.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Seriously? Those are exclusive games that went multiplatform. TR is a multiplatform game that suddenly went exclusive. Do you not see how they're two very different situations? One allows more gamers to play said game. The latter just restricts a huge chunk of people who are fans of the series from playing a game they're looking forward to.

If more of them had bought the original Tomb Raider, Square Enix wouldn't have had to accept this deal. After all, you don't see Rockstar taking exclusivity deals?

 

[Kinyou]

Especially when the game had already been announced as multiplatform and by the looks of it, microsoft just paid for it to be taken away from other platforms.

It's not a Bayonetta 2 situation. It's not a Bloodborne situation. It's not a Final Fantasy XIII situation. They already had the game announced on their platform and still felt the need to take it away from the other announced platforms. This is what is upsetting people. In this case, it's pretty understandable.

Did they announce it for other platforms? There are no platforms named in the initial trailer.

 

[TitusGroan]

Seriously? Those are exclusive games that went multiplatform. TR is a multiplatform game that suddenly went exclusive. Do you not see how they're two very different situations? One allows more gamers to play said game. The latter just restricts a huge chunk of people who are fans of the series from playing a game they're looking forward to.

I also included MGS2, which had a multiplat release, but went back to being exclusive on PS2 with 3 and 4. I could also mention Silent Hill, where 2 was released on Xbox and PS2, 3 was PS2 exclusive, and 4 went back to being multiplat.

I mean, was Silent Hill 3 a huge anti-consumer dick move? Was Soul Calibur 3 anti-consumer?

 

[1st Course]

Because there's a passionate community for it. With a lot of people who refuse to accept that other people have different opinions. And because gaming journalism has turned everyone into a critic, which is a sad way of looking at things, considering everything would be so much better if only people were able to look on the bright side of things.

Well said.

 

[Rozart]

If more of them had bought the original Tomb Raider, Square Enix wouldn't have had to accept this deal. After all, you don't see Rockstar taking exclusivity deals?

Are you pulling my leg, friend?

 

[RooMHM]

Because devs/publishers/manufacturers are constantly insulting us treating us like dumbasses lying to everybody with huge grins on their face waiting for a paid audience/journalism to applause and hype everything.

 

[Vooduu]

Strangely, being angry has brought a lot of good for the community.

Passion at its best tbh.

 

[Xenoflare]

Especially when the game had already been announced as multiplatform and by the looks of it, microsoft just paid for it to be taken away from other platforms.

It's not a Bayonetta 2 situation. It's not a Bloodborne situation. It's not a Final Fantasy XIII situation. They already had the game announced on their platform and still felt the need to take it away from the other announced platforms. This is what is upsetting people. In this case, it's pretty understandable.

I don't think any sort of ragey BS is justified, either way, the community reacts in the most "eloquent" way possible.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

There's also the fact that a lot of video game publishers treat their customers like idiots. Read through that Square Enix press release and tell me they don't. Like we're supposed to believe the Tomb Raider exclusivity deal was made because "this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming." Yeah, and my cat can do the hokey pokey.

 

[Caayn]

Because people don't like/can't handle the news they're likely to hear on such events.

I don't feel that the analogy with music/film festivals is entirely fair. With music and films you can enjoy it anyway because the chances are massive that it will be available on a platform that you own let that be iTunes/Blu-ray/ultra-violet/etc it doesn't matter it will be available on those platform 99.9% of the time.

They already had the game announced on their platform and still felt the need to take it away from the other announced platforms. This is what is upsetting people. In this case, it's pretty understandable.

Did they? The reveal trailer didn't have any platforms logos/mentions whatsoever in it. It was assumed that it would be a multiplatform game due to the previous entries in the series.

It's understandable that people are sad that it doesn't come to their platform of choice, but what I found surprising and somewhat sickening is that the normal calm Gaf was now a place for anger and despair all because of one title. When I complained about exclusives(content) in the past I was waived aside with the notion "it's a normal business practice", "whining on the internet isn't going to help" and other reasons why I shouldn't complain. What the hell happened Gaf? (No I'm not implying that Gaf is a hive-mind)

 

[Ape]

console wars

Bingo. As soon as some people look at it as "us vs them" things can get ugly. I like to think that most of us get to enjoy what everyone brings to the table.

 

[TitusGroan]

There's also the fact that a lot of video game publishers treat their customers like idiots. Read through that Square Enix press release and tell me they don't. Like we're supposed to believe the Tomb Raider exclusivity deal was made because "this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming." Yeah, and my cat can do the hokey pokey.

Well, I mean... how is it wrong? If you want to forge a huge brand in gaming, why is Microsoft's money such a bad idea? Worked out pretty well for Bungie and Epic, and they were building the Halo and gears brands from scratch. If you have an already popular franchise like Tomb Raider, and you get Microsoft throwing money at it, surely it's not impossible that it could become even bigger as a result? If you want anyone to chuck money at something, surely it would be Microsoft with their swimming pools of the stuff?

 

[JesseEwiak]

There's also the fact that a lot of video game publishers treat their customers like idiots. Read through that Square Enix press release and tell me they don't. Like we're supposed to believe the Tomb Raider exclusivity deal was made because "this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming." Yeah, and my cat can do the hokey pokey.

It's a PR statement. Every PR statement sounds like bullshit in every industry from fast food to pro wrestling.

Are you pulling my leg, friend?

I'm just saying, if all these PS4/PC owners really loved the Tomb Raider franchise, they would've each got a friend to buy a copy, thus making Tomb Raider much more successful.

More seriously, you have no inherent right to a game. Yes, you can complain all you want. And until that complaining comes with millions upon millions of dollars, that complaining doesn't matter, at least to the SqEnix bean counters.

 

[Rozart]

I also included MGS2, which had a multiplat release, but went back to being exclusive on PS2 with 3 and 4. I could also mention Silent Hill, where 2 was released on Xbox and PS2, 3 was PS2 exclusive, and 4 went back to being multiplat.

I mean, was Silent Hill 3 a huge anti-consumer dick move? Was Soul Calibur 3 anti-consumer?

How big were the sales discrepancies between the two? i.e. Namco deciding not to release the 'Tales of' series on the 360 anymore due to low sales on that specific platform.

And honestly? Sales discrepancies or not, I do think they were dick-moves.

 

[danmaku]

The World Cup is a clear-cut competition where teams are actually knocked out of the tournament, and there's a giant big golden physical trophy at the end for the winners.

Is there a Jules Rimet Trophy gleaming at E3 or Gamescom?

Having a clear winner doesn't stop fans from arguing about who "deserved" to win or who got lucky with draws, who lost because of the referee or has the best players but a bad coach and so on.

The gaming industry is very focused on competition because the companies put a strong focus on competition in their messages. They always talk about "winning" the console war (it's not even a game, it's a fucking war!), getting the "best" games, "it's a marathon, not a sprint", etc. It's all about competition because competition creates fans and fans are more likely to make stupid, unreasonable decisions built on hype instead of thinking critically. It's part of the marketing machine.

 

[TitusGroan]

Because people don't like/can't handle the news they're likely to hear on such events.

I don't feel that the analogy with music/film festivals is entirely fair. With music and films you can enjoy it anyway because the chances are massive that it will be available on a platform that you own let that be iTunes/Blu-ray/ultra-violet/etc it doesn't matter it will be available on those platform 99.9% of the time.

But whether or not platform exclusivity changes the nature of things compared to films or music, surely that doesn't change the fact that you can still be respectful and even (le gasp) happy about other platforms getting good games?

I don't plan on buying an Xbone anytime soon, if at all, because I personally don't think it would suit me (PC + Nintendo gamer here), but I'm happy as hell that Xbox owners are getting stuff like Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive to play. Reminds me of owning an OG Xbox back in the day and playing games like Jade Empire. I'd feel sad as all hell for Xbox owners if they bought a new console, then got sweet nothing to play on it. Same for PS4 and Wii U owners.

Maybe because I was never all that enamoured of the Tomb Raider reboot I'm less affected by the sequel, but I don't see what getting angry about all this achieves. The deals are done, the publishing is worked out, it's not worth getting angry over. Not when there are so many great games to play at the moment across all systems. There's nothing wrong with taking a more zen approach to gaming, and allowing things to happen without getting frothy at the mouth. Stress causes health problems, and if I want to get stressed over videogames, I want it to be from playing them, not simply reading about them.

 

[EdwardTeach]

It is not really comparable to movies or music, as you don't have exclusive platforms.
That being said I keep an amused distance from the hate, and generally enjoy all the shows.

 

[Fattony12000]

They don't make me particularly angry. That would be rather silly.

 

[silver.tongue]

Because it matters who "wins" apparently...

 

[PuppetMaster]

We are passionate about our past time.

It's not even a past time for some people; it is their all-time.

 

[Dryk]

Festivals are not trade-shows. People have fun at festivals because that's what their for, trade-shows exist for companies to tell people why they should spend money on them. They're not comparable. Conventions are much closer to festivals and people do have a great time at those just hanging out playing games.

Why do people still get so angry about something that has been going on since gaming was first a medium?

Just because it's an old practice doesn't mean it's not bad for consumers

There's no guarantee that the new Tomb Raider won't come to PS4 at some point, same as how RE4 eventually came to PS2, so why not just wait and see, and enjoy some other stuff in the meantime?

By that point if the game will be spoiled and discussed to death. It's worth much less to a lot of people that way. Understandably so.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Well, I mean... how is it wrong? If you want to forge a huge brand in gaming, why is Microsoft's money such a bad idea? Worked out pretty well for Bungie and Epic, and they were building the Halo and gears brands from scratch. If you have an already popular franchise like Tomb Raider, and you get Microsoft throwing money at it, surely it's not impossible that it could become even bigger as a result? If you want anyone to chuck money at something, surely it would be Microsoft with their swimming pools of the stuff?

It's wrong because they're limiting their user base. That doesn't seem like the best way to strengthen the longevity of a beloved franchise. No, they did this because MS opened up their pocket books and cut S-E a check. It was a short term cash grab, and it wasn't for the franchise, it was for the publishers bottom line. They're being disingenuous.

Now I don't expect them to come out and say "MS cut us a huge check! Yee haw!" but they could at least word it in a way that doesn't sound like complete BS.

At any rate, I think they'll end up eventually releasing this game on other platforms to ensure long term profitability. That's why I'm not personally enraged about this stuff. I don't think PC and PS4 fans have much to worry about.

 

[Rozart]

I'm just saying, if all these PS4/PC owners really loved the Tomb Raider franchise, they would've each got a friend to buy a copy, thus making Tomb Raider much more successful.

More seriously, you have no inherent right to a game. Yes, you can complain all you want. And until that complaining comes with millions upon millions of dollars, that complaining doesn't matter, at least to the SqEnix bean counters.

Fans have a right to be disappointed/frustrated that they aren't able to play a game they were looking forward to imo.

I think the changes that Microsoft made to their initial console plans showed that 'complaining' does matter. All the hoohaa that the fans raised yesterday snowballed into a backlash (one that was big enough that bbc tech reported on it of all things) rather than a positive reaction that was probably expected. It made people like Geoff question the legitimacy of the implied full exclusivity rights and all in all, it just soured people's impression of the parties that were involved.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Fans have a right to be disappointed/frustrated that they aren't able to play a game they were looking forward to imo.

I think the changes that Microsoft made to their initial console plans showed that 'complaining' does matter. All the hoohaa that the fans raised yesterday snowballed into a backlash (one that was big enough that bbc tech reported on it of all things) rather than a positive reaction that was probably expected. It made people like Geoff question the legitimacy of the implied full exclusivity rights and all in all, it just soured people's impression of the parties that were involved.

DRM (and let's be honest, it was really "no used games" that got things into the mainstream) is something even casual people can latch on to. "One game isn't on a specific system, well OK, it probably is, but six months later" isn't exactly something to launch ships over.

After all, No Man's Sky, which frankly is probably going to be a better game is exclusive to PS4, likely for a few months. OK. It's not the end of the world.

Yes, fans have a right to be upset. And SqEnix has the right to laugh at those upset fans as they cash Microsoft's check.

 

[TitusGroan]

It is not really comparable to movies or music, as you don't have exclusive platforms.
That being said I keep an amused distance from the hate, and generally enjoy all the shows.

You now have shows like House Of Cards which are being made exclusively for streaming services you have to sign up for. There are also films and shows made and shown exclusively on cable and satellite stations that, again, you have to pay money for.

It's not exactly the same, no, but there is still platform exclusivity with films and shows, and no-one gets anywhere near as upset about it.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

You now have shows like House Of Cards which are being made exclusively for streaming services you have to sign up for. There are also films and shows made and shown exclusively on cable and satellite stations that, again, you have to pay money for.

It's not exactly the same, no, but there is still platform exclusivity with films and shows, and no-one gets anywhere near as upset about it.

Now imagine if House of Card's next season is on another service that you don't own.

 

[Xenoflare]

You now have shows like House Of Cards which are being made exclusively for streaming services you have to sign up for. There are also films and shows made and shown exclusively on cable and satellite stations that, again, you have to pay money for.

It's not exactly the same, no, but there is still platform exclusivity with films and shows, and no-one gets anywhere near as upset about it.

As many others pointed out, all fanbase are prone to ragey outbursts.

It's not a matter that what triggers them, they will always be there, in this case it's brand loyalty and whatnot.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Yes, fans have a right to be upset. And SqEnix has the right to laugh at those upset fans as they cash Microsoft's check.

Sure, they have every right to do that. I'm not sure that's the best way to treat a loyal fanbase, but hey...video games. Am I right?

 

[JesseEwiak]

Now imagine if House of Card's next season is on another service that you don't own.

I'd have to deal by watching one of the other dozens of great TV shows out there.

 

[geordiemp]

Got to admit, wish I had a £ for every post with someone claiming Nintendo / Sony / MS won a game show.

Who won E3 ? Who won gamescom ? Who won the mindshare, who won an online poll ?

Its laughable, these are simply marketing presentations of hardware and software by a company. Its successful if in the short and medium term following the presentation sales numbers and adoption improve, which is the only important metric.

It cannot be compared to music or films, you cannot say if your hardware used to play the film or music has high sales you will see more films or music being available for that hardware.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Sure, they have every right to do that. I'm not sure that's the best way to treat a loyal fanbase, but hey...video games. Am I right?

Well, more like capitalism, actually.

 

[jet1911]

Fans have a right to be disappointed/frustrated that they aren't able to play a game they were looking forward to imo.

Looking at the reactions a lot of people also have a hard time acting like grown ups too. A videogame is not available on your platform of choice? Oh no! Just get over it, buy an Xbox if the game is so important or wait for the game to be released on the other platforms. So much drama...

 

[Caayn]

But whether or not platform exclusivity changes the nature of things compared to films or music, surely that doesn't change the fact that you can still be respectful and even (le gasp) happy about other platforms getting good games?

I don't plan on buying an Xbone anytime soon, if at all, because I personally don't think it would suit me (PC + Nintendo gamer here), but I'm happy as hell that Xbox owners are getting stuff like Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive to play. Reminds me of owning an OG Xbox back in the day and playing games like Jade Empire. I'd feel sad as all hell for Xbox owners if they bought a new console, then got sweet nothing to play on it. Same for PS4 and Wii U owners.

Maybe because I was never all that enamoured of the Tomb Raider reboot I'm less affected by the sequel, but I don't see what getting angry about all this achieves. The deals are done, the publishing is worked out, it's not worth getting angry over. Not when there are so many great games to play at the moment across all systems. There's nothing wrong with taking a more zen approach to gaming, and allowing things to happen without getting frothy at the mouth. Stress causes health problems, and if I want to get stressed over videogames, I want it to be from playing them, not simply reading about them.

Don't get me wrong I agree with you

I own all consoles/handhelds and a PC for the sole reason that I don't want to miss out on certain games that I want to play. And even then I too get somewhat upset at hearing some news and will let a angry post slip, see my posts related to the PS content for Destiny for example (not exactly the same situation, but still). Does that make me a hypocrite? Yes in some degree it does. But that also allows to me understand some the people who're upset with news like this.

However I don't understand and don't support the massive outcry that Tomb Raider/Square-Enix/Microsoft got with the reveal yesterday. No I'm not denying that it's sad news for the people who won't get a chance to play it if they don't buy a Xbox One,

Spoiler

assuming it's a full-exclusive which is yet to be revealed.

I guess the biggest culprit in this industry is the console wars and people trying to justify their purchase by trying to one-up it over another. No other industry has anything similar to that. Gaf isn't immune to it.

 

[TitusGroan]

Now imagine if House of Card's next season is on another service that you don't own.

Then I'll decide whether it's worth changing service, or watching something else instead. I wouldn't get angry about it. Life's too short to get angry about whether Kevin Spacey is going to become fake-President or not.

Spoiler

The superior House Of Cards was broadcast to everyone for free twenty years ago on the BBC anyways...

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

I'd have to deal by watching one of the other dozens of great TV shows out there.

Sure maybe that series doesn't matter to you fine, but lets not pretend there isn't a show somewhere that you're very invested in the story and want to see continue.

Then I'll decide whether it's worth changing service, or watching something else instead. I wouldn't get angry about it. Life's too short to get angry about whether Kevin Spacey is going to become fake-President or not.

Spoiler

The superior House Of Cards was broadcast to everyone for free twenty years ago on the BBC anyways...

Lol there's no 'changing service' with a console, unless you're willing to go through the trouble of selling off one console.to pay for another.

And like I've said above sure maybe that series doesn't matter to you fine, but lets not pretend there isn't a show somewhere that you're very invested in the story and want to see continue.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Sure maybe that series doesn't matter to you fine, but lets not pretend there isn't a show somewhere that you're very invested in the story and want to see continue.

Yeah, but frankly, no, there's not a TV Show, movie series, or game series out there I actually care about so much that if it somehow became unavailable, I'd write angry missives about it online. There's too much entertainment product out there to keep up with, and a lot of it is of a pretty high quality. I'd live.

 

[TeRey09]

We are passionate about our past time.

It's not even a past time for some people; it is their all-time.

That passion makes some people fucking insane, it's not pretty.

A corporation made a business deal that is designed for the corp to benefit from and people lost their minds because they weren't consulted or factored into the decision or the center of of it. The gaming community is getting out of hand.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

Yeah, but frankly, no, there's not a TV Show, movie series, or game series out there I actually care about so much that if it somehow became unavailable, I'd write angry missives about it online. There's too much entertainment product out there to keep up with, and a lot of it is of a pretty high quality. I'd live.

Good for you, now understand that other people might not be as tolerant when they can't continue their favorite story.

Personally I have no stake in Tomb Raider's future, but I understand why this would piss people off.

 

[TitusGroan]

Sure maybe that series doesn't matter to you fine, but lets not pretend there isn't a show somewhere that you're very invested in the story and want to see continue.

Absolutely. I was a huge Farscape fan back in the day, and was gutted when Sci-Fi cancelled it. In that case, fan support actually got the show revived as a web series, which was great, but there's a difference between cancellation and something changing stations or platforms. If the Tomb Raider series got cancelled, I could understand better the reactions. But it's not cancelled, it's pulling a Silent Hill 3. Which isn't ideal, but it's not worth spitting venom over. Not when there are so many other games worth playing, and PS4 owners have themselves got Uncharted to look forward to.

Lol there's no 'changing service' with a console, unless you're willing to go through the trouble of selling off one console.to pay for another.

Why do you think that's such a strange idea? If you own one console, but then you see something you really really really really really want on another console, why wouldn't you sell the former to buy the latter (assuming you don't have money for both, of course)?

 

[CecilRousso]

None of us needs or should be corporate apologists. It doesn't matter how much strategin sense the TR descision might make for Crystal Dynamics and Microsoft. The customers are still worse off because of it, and should react against it.

 

[nynt9]

Gaming shows are all about exclusion. Each manufacturer spends an hour showing people awesome things that they can't play unless they invest half a grand in their ecosystem. Whereas movie festivals are about inclusion.

Your tech comparison doesn't really work because phone specs are mostly a matter of preference and the show is about selling you the phone whereas in gaming the consoles are pretty similar and they are trying to bait you into buying a console by showing awesome games that you won't be able to play. If you want a phone, you'll just buy it. But in gaming shows, if you want a game, you'll need to buy a system you DON'T want. Exclusion.

 

[BradC00]

None of us needs or should be corporate apologists. It doesn't matter how much strategin sense the TR descision might make for Crystal Dynamics and Microsoft. The customers are still worse off because of it, and should react against it.

why are they worse for it

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

Absolutely. I was a huge Farscape fan back in the day, and was gutted when Sci-Fi cancelled it. In that case, fan support actually got the show revived as a web series, which was great, but there's a difference between cancellation and something changing stations or platforms. If the Tomb Raider series got cancelled, I could understand better the reactions. But it's not cancelled, it's pulling a Silent Hill 3. Which isn't ideal, but it's not worth spitting venom over. Not when there are so many other games worth playing, and PS4 owners have themselves got Uncharted to look forward to.

Just because it's not as bad, doesn't mean it doesn't still suck.

Understand that other people might not be as tolerant when they can't continue their favorite story.

Why do you think that's such a strange idea? If you own one console, but then you see something you really really really really really want on another console, why wouldn't you sell the former to buy the latter (assuming you don't have money for both, of course)?

The same reason why people were hesitant to jump ship from Xbox to PS at the start of the gen. They get attached to their profiles and achievements/trophies, they have made friends, they have digital downloads etc.

Things aren't so black and white; there is that middle ground where it's not worth dumping everything and jumping ship, but still want to play that game. And it can be frustarting.