I only like gyro aiming on devices where I'm moving the screen like 3DS or Wii U. Doesn't jive with me using the controller separate to the screen for it.
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Why gyro assisted aiming is not common thing on PS4 (consoles)?
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Nah, I've played games with no aim assist. Killzone Shadowfall felt great and it features zero aim assist. Given it was an exclusive for Nintendo and they were trying to justify the game pad, it wouldn't be surprising if it was designed entirely around gyro and they just never put effort into making it feel not terrible without it.
I mean, I don't think you ever want your controls to feel like shit regardless of what kind of shooter it is.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Because it mostly sucks.
If it was actually good, more games would use it.
It's like saying "But Kinect works GREAT in Dance Central, why don't more games use Kinect?"
If it was actually good, more games would use it.
It's like saying "But Kinect works GREAT in Dance Central, why don't more games use Kinect?"
Acerac
Banned
It works excellently for games in the correct genre.
I would genuinely be confused if a bunch of dance games came out for the Xone and didn't use Kinect, yes. Like this, it would seem like a real oversight from the devs.
LordRaptor
Member
Again, its impossible to say that when most games don't even offer the option.
Take a straw poll with people who have used the Steam Controller which offers this as a controller feature, not a specific game feature, and you will find the response to be very positive - it is vastly superior to the existing dual stick compromise solution that is ADS
Leatherface
Member
Splatoon has the absolute best FPS controls on consoles. Gyro assisted controls are seriously the next level and need to be a thing. I completely agree OP!
Or it was just an option. You know, because options are good?
Throwaway123456789
Member
Not a single person wants it to become the standard as the only option. This thread is about wanting it as an option, since it's worked so damn well in the few games that has it.
Leatherface
Member
Coming from mouse and keyboard, the gyro controls in Splatoon gave me hope for making the FPS genre on consoles playable again (for me).
Acerac
Banned
I get you, I know I've not purchased a single FPS where dual analog was the only option.
Sucks to only have one questionable option when playing these games.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
Driveclub has this feature too.
I don't really want the option. I would prefer console FPS be balanced and designed with dual analog in mind and not rely on fine tuned movement from gyro.
Also on Uncharted Golden Abyss, so amazing. It's such a great tool for finite movements
It would be a balanced considering everyone has on a PS4 would have a DS4...
That makes it less of an option and more like a passive requirement to use it. So no, still not on onboard.
family_guy
Member
Sony puts a lot of stuff in their controllers that are barely used.
So lets say your favouritest shooter with the bestest controls added it in. What would you do? Be narked that it makes people better and stop playing?
Astral/H3X
Member
I mean, you're basically saying to intentionally limit aiming capability and artificially raise the skill floor (not ceiling, *floor*) because "I dun wanna".
jediyoshi
Member
What's your point of reference here?
You are doing a lot of mental gymnastics just to avoid getting something that's better simply because it's not common right now.
PS3 shouldn't be the gauge though because it was the worst. It felt like it barely functioned and I tried to avoid it when I could and still do. Gyro today is much more advanced and sooo much better over whatever was in the PS3.
grandwizard
Member
Because aim assist has made people used to a crutch that they don't want taken away and be forced to actually have to aim. They don't see the need for improvements to input because they think they do fine on dual analog and are unaware the game is doing half the work for them.
Vital Tundra
Member
After Splatoon I can't go back to playing shooters on consoles. It's so stiff and clunky I'd rather just be playing on my PC. Don't understand why sony doesn't make the most of it.
Old man yells at gyro.
ShadowFox08
Member
Is this the only fpser you've actually played monteol controls with? Lol IR pointer fspers like the cod franchise and metroid prime trilogy/3 on the Wii and Wii u blow it away.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
This thread's full of examples of it being great.
And great features aren't always common.
Also this. To the point that they didn't bother adding it and making it optional with default off. To the point they removed the feature that already had it.
But how would we know if it isn't used in games that much? It worked amazingly for Splatoon, to the point where a majority of Splatoon players leave gyro on.
Games should at least offer the option. If you don't like it, turn it off.
stan423321
Member
Not sure what the argument here is given that cross-play is non-existent.
Way more of a paradigm change compared to Splatoon though, and has some arguable downsides like sensor bar X hand positioning.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I tried and tried in Splatoon and just couldn't do it. I guess I'm one of those morons
trugs26
Member
My guess is because they don't want to create a divide where some people will be advantageous with the motion controls (faster aiming) and others using traditional controls will be at a disadvantage.
And it seems that the general perception of motion controls is negative, so a lot of players will have it disabled, then they will get owned online, then that might negatively impact the game's sales performance or something like that. Given how popular the FPS genre is, shaking up something fundamental such as the control scheme is very risky. You can't simply have it as an option, because you'll instantly put a lot of people at a disadvantage - a risk a lot of developers don't want to take.
I love Splatoon's controls. I personally hope it catches on.
And it seems that the general perception of motion controls is negative, so a lot of players will have it disabled, then they will get owned online, then that might negatively impact the game's sales performance or something like that. Given how popular the FPS genre is, shaking up something fundamental such as the control scheme is very risky. You can't simply have it as an option, because you'll instantly put a lot of people at a disadvantage - a risk a lot of developers don't want to take.
I love Splatoon's controls. I personally hope it catches on.
Digital Savior
Member
I personally did not like gyro aiming in Splatoon. But, I did not spend much time with it.
I don't think it is better. No mental gymnastics needed just a little understanding that different opinions exist. Where one may see something awesome another may see something poor.
Backlogger
Member
Hmmm I must be doing gyro aiming completely wrong because it feels super unatural, inaccurate and clunky to me. I've tried different configs in different games and honestly find a standard Xbox controller to be easier to aim.
What am I doing wrong?
What am I doing wrong?
Gyro aiming is a genuinely good crutch for those that haven't ever really clicked with analog aim, but it's also a distraction from the more cohesive method of aiming with a controller, preventing you from getting to proper grips with the nuances of a well tuned dual analog setup.
It's a lot like wiimote aim in that it's more intuitive and accessible initially, but not conducive or effective long term. Ask a COD or Halo player to switch to gyro aim and they'll laugh you out of the room -- not that I necessarily think you have to listen to elitist people that laugh other people out of the room.
That said, none of the above has ever stopped implementation of tech/options before, so I suppose it's still strange that it isn't just plopped into everything.
It's a lot like wiimote aim in that it's more intuitive and accessible initially, but not conducive or effective long term. Ask a COD or Halo player to switch to gyro aim and they'll laugh you out of the room -- not that I necessarily think you have to listen to elitist people that laugh other people out of the room.
That said, none of the above has ever stopped implementation of tech/options before, so I suppose it's still strange that it isn't just plopped into everything.
capylikesgames
Banned
You sure analog aim isn't the crutch, with the amount of aim assist developers cake on it nowadays? I've never understood the argument that it's the better input because it's more cumbersome to use than anything else. It's the way it was done initially because it was the only option developers had. There are other, superior ways to control your point of view available nowadays, and the only time analog aim gets close to that is when the game is holding your hand behind the scenes. I don't understand this sort of insistance to stay in the past.