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Why haven't you gotten a vasectomy?

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Went in after my second was born and the doctor was an asshat trying to sell my misses on annual injections and basically any other measure that required a recurring billing he would make kick backs from. The medical industry is rife with this shit these days.

Anyhow booked in for next month finally, with a different doctor to just snip and be done. I'm 40 this year and we've had our kids, there is no need for the BS consultation thanks. FYI cost is AUD$525.
 
Chicks can get their tubes tied.

Which is far more invasive than a vasectomy, and causes serious problems if it goes wrong, which are not as easily reversed. One of those problems is Ectopic pregnancy, where the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. This will require emergency surgery, and can cause death.
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healthlibrary/test_procedures/gynecology/tubal_ligation_135,27/

In some cases, tubal ligation can also cause premature periomenopause...which neither of you want.

So... "be a man" and get the vasectomy if you're not planning on having more kids (or kids at all), so she doesn't have to risk that.

Maybe, but it's still safe
No.
 
Maybe, but it's still safe
Far less safe than a vasectomy. Shit, I got mine so my partner didn't have to worry about any issues from hormonal birth control. But in general men out the burden of birth control on women so your attitude isn't shocking.
 
Because I'm not risking cancer, testicular pain or any other complications.

Because condoms exist.

Because can control myself enough during sex that I do not need to ejaculate inside a partner.

Because a vascectomy doesn't protect against STDs and I'm not done fucking around yet.
 
Which is far more invasive than a vasectomy, and causes serious problems if it goes wrong, which are not as easily reversed. One of those problems is Ectopic pregnancy, where the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. This will require emergency surgery, and can cause death.
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healthlibrary/test_procedures/gynecology/tubal_ligation_135,27/

In some cases, tubal ligation can also cause premature periomenopause...which neither of you want.

So... "be a man" and get the vasectomy if you're not planning on having more kids (or kids at all), so she doesn't have to risk that.


No.

Far less safe than a vasectomy. Shit, I got mine so my partner didn't have to worry about any issues from hormonal birth control. But in general men out the burden of birth control on women so your attitude isn't shocking.

It is safe. Maybe not as safe as a snip but it's still safe. Kinda like car safety ratings I suppose. While a 4.5 rating is safe, 5 is safer.

Tubes tied is a viable option (it also may be more effective from memory)
 
Because I'm not in a long-term relationship with someone who doesn't want kids. Maybe when I'm engaged. For now I'm cool with buying condoms once in a while.
 
The horrible misinformation in this topic is astounding.

1. Most doctors don't go down without a fight if either a man or a woman wants to be sterilized. It's outdated way of thinking and it's increasingly hard the younger you are. Not one doctor would allow me to do it prior to having a medical termination for a genetic condition I passed on. I started asking at about 24 years old. I finally had it done at 32.

2. The risk of sterilization is pretty much the same for a man or woman. Even the procedure for a woman is a quick laparoscopic procedure. I spent a few hours at the outpatient surgery center before going home. I was sedated for the procedure.

3. The reversal procedure is in the thousands for a man or woman and still has a very small success rate. A woman, however, can have her eggs retrieved through IVF and implanted after fertilized. The only downside is it's more expensive than a reversal.

4. Ectopic pregnancies can happen. But it doesn't have to be a life threatening, scary, or deadly thing. Most woman don't expect to become pregnant, so they don't always pay attention to their cycles. Ectopic pregnancies can happen with or without a tubal ligation, and the end result the same with or without a tubal.

5. Most women have been on some form of birth control since early teenage years to deal with PMS symptoms and in their 20's to ward off pregnancies. There's a large number of women that do not know their normal cycle because they've never experienced a normal cycle for any longer than a couple of months to get pregnant. When they finally have a tubal ligation and go off birth control, issues can come up that they didn't know existed because it was warded off by birth control.

6. Abortions have much less risk than either sterilization procedure. Even giving birth has a ten fold risk than abortion complications. And an abortion does not effect the ability to become pregnant again.


Yes doctors should listen to the patient when one requests to be sterilized if they're certain, but it's not a decision to made lightly for a man or woman. Neither should an abortion, but most women do not regret obtaining an abortion if it's what she chooses and not coerced into it by some one else.

Limited access to abortions has not limited unwanted pregnancies. It has only limited the choice of the woman to make the decision she wants for herself. Most these states limiting access to abortion also limit access to long term birth control methods. The only thing proven to limit abortions is when there is adequate access to contraceptive methods.

Texas limited clinics, making some clinics over 200 miles away for a woman to get to. The state has only seen a rise in unwanted births of low income women.
Colorado received a large private donation to increase access to long term birth control like IUD's. More women sought after the IUD's, and fewer women sought after abortions because there were fewer unwanted pregnancies.

But overall, we need to go all the way back to the books in school and rewrite sex ed classes without all these religious nutters.
 
The horrible misinformation in this topic is astounding.

1. Most doctors don't go down without a fight if either a man or a woman wants to be sterilized. It's outdated way of thinking and it's increasingly hard the younger you are. Not one doctor would allow me to do it prior to having a medical termination for a genetic condition I passed on. I started asking at about 24 years old. I finally had it done at 32.

2. The risk of sterilization is pretty much the same for a man or woman. Even the procedure for a woman is a quick laparoscopic procedure. I spent a few hours at the outpatient surgery center before going home. I was sedated for the procedure.

3. The reversal procedure is in the thousands for a man or woman and still has a very small success rate. A woman, however, can have her eggs retrieved through IVF and implanted after fertilized. The only downside is it's more expensive than a reversal.

4. Ectopic pregnancies can happen. But it doesn't have to be a life threatening, scary, or deadly thing. Most woman don't expect to become pregnant, so they don't always pay attention to their cycles. Ectopic pregnancies can happen with or without a tubal ligation, and the end result the same with or without a tubal.

5. Most women have been on some form of birth control since early teenage years to deal with PMS symptoms and in their 20's to ward off pregnancies. There's a large number of women that do not know their normal cycle because they've never experienced a normal cycle for any longer than a couple of months to get pregnant. When they finally have a tubal ligation and go off birth control, issues can come up that they didn't know existed because it was warded off by birth control.

6. Abortions have much less risk than either sterilization procedure. Even giving birth has a ten fold risk than abortion complications. And an abortion does not effect the ability to become pregnant again.


Yes doctors should listen to the patient when one requests to be sterilized if they're certain, but it's not a decision to made lightly for a man or woman. Neither should an abortion, but most women do not regret obtaining an abortion if it's what she chooses and not coerced into it by some one else.

Limited access to abortions has not limited unwanted pregnancies. It has only limited the choice of the woman to make the decision she wants for herself. Most these states limiting access to abortion also limit access to long term birth control methods. The only thing proven to limit abortions is when there is adequate access to contraceptive methods.

Texas limited clinics, making some clinics over 200 miles away for a woman to get to. The state has only seen a rise in unwanted births of low income women.
Colorado received a large private donation to increase access to long term birth control like IUD's. More women sought after the IUD's, and fewer women sought after abortions because there were fewer unwanted pregnancies.

But overall, we need to go all the way back to the books in school and rewrite sex ed classes without all these religious nutters.
Fantastic post. The last sentence in point 6 is controversial though. There are data supporting either side
 
I got one at age 23. The doctor spent all of 30 seconds trying to get me to consider otherwise.
 
26 yrs old and i already have two kids.
We most likely won't have anymore but you never know.
Might get it done in my mid 30's
 
Fantastic post. The last sentence in point 6 is controversial though. There are data supporting either side

Infertility is still a very limited in research as to why it happens. An abortion performed by an experienced doctor should have very minimal risks. Now a woman, her body, and any existing medical condition can increase those risks. Those things should all be taken into consideration before having any medical procedure done. But there's a huge lack of female reproductive care. There are many women that don't seek out regular medical care until it's needed, such as an abortion. A lot of these issues aren't discovered until a woman starts trying to become pregnant. The only two concerns are scarring and a weakened cervix from multiple abortions. Either of those things can happen without having an abortion. And there's no real statistics on how often these things can happen.

I'll believe you if you can find real research by the CDC, NHS, or Guttmacher who provide unbiased research and statistics. It's all too easy to read fake sites by prolifers to scare the living daylights out of a woman seeking abortion. Even most states in the south require doctors to provide false medical information to women seeking abortions.

https://www.guttmacher.org/about/gp...state-developed-abortion-counseling-materials
 
Don't want any kids but we decided there's no point in having the procedure since my wife's only side-effect to her birth-control pill is not having a period, not exactly a drawback.

You know, there are a lot of side effects that don't show now, but the future isn't going to be certain, that's for sure.
That shit even colors your blood plasma green.
Also moodswings can come later, was with my wife the same story.
Can't be healthy!

@Topic I would, but my wife is still unsure...
 
The difficulty of reversal is the main reason for me. My wife and I have two kids and think we're done, but there's an outside chance we'll decide to have more. There's a loose deadline for that around the time she approaches 40, though, and I'll most likely get one eventually.
 
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The horrible misinformation in this topic is astounding.

1. Most doctors don't go down without a fight if either a man or a woman wants to be sterilized. It's outdated way of thinking and it's increasingly hard the younger you are. Not one doctor would allow me to do it prior to having a medical termination for a genetic condition I passed on. I started asking at about 24 years old. I finally had it done at 32.

2. The risk of sterilization is pretty much the same for a man or woman. Even the procedure for a woman is a quick laparoscopic procedure. I spent a few hours at the outpatient surgery center before going home. I was sedated for the procedure.

3. The reversal procedure is in the thousands for a man or woman and still has a very small success rate. A woman, however, can have her eggs retrieved through IVF and implanted after fertilized. The only downside is it's more expensive than a reversal.

4. Ectopic pregnancies can happen. But it doesn't have to be a life threatening, scary, or deadly thing. Most woman don't expect to become pregnant, so they don't always pay attention to their cycles. Ectopic pregnancies can happen with or without a tubal ligation, and the end result the same with or without a tubal.

5. Most women have been on some form of birth control since early teenage years to deal with PMS symptoms and in their 20's to ward off pregnancies. There's a large number of women that do not know their normal cycle because they've never experienced a normal cycle for any longer than a couple of months to get pregnant. When they finally have a tubal ligation and go off birth control, issues can come up that they didn't know existed because it was warded off by birth control.

6. Abortions have much less risk than either sterilization procedure. Even giving birth has a ten fold risk than abortion complications. And an abortion does not effect the ability to become pregnant again.


Yes doctors should listen to the patient when one requests to be sterilized if they're certain, but it's not a decision to made lightly for a man or woman. Neither should an abortion, but most women do not regret obtaining an abortion if it's what she chooses and not coerced into it by some one else.

Limited access to abortions has not limited unwanted pregnancies. It has only limited the choice of the woman to make the decision she wants for herself. Most these states limiting access to abortion also limit access to long term birth control methods. The only thing proven to limit abortions is when there is adequate access to contraceptive methods.

Texas limited clinics, making some clinics over 200 miles away for a woman to get to. The state has only seen a rise in unwanted births of low income women.
Colorado received a large private donation to increase access to long term birth control like IUD's. More women sought after the IUD's, and fewer women sought after abortions because there were fewer unwanted pregnancies.

But overall, we need to go all the way back to the books in school and rewrite sex ed classes without all these religious nutters.

3. I'm pretty sure they can also store a man's sperm before the procedure.

5. How do you figure that most women are on a pill since teenage years?

6. That's not necessarily true of abortions not affecting the ability to get pregnant later on. Depending on when you get the abortion the doctors have to scrape your uterus walls to make sure nothing is left behind. This causes scar tissue making it harder for the placenta to attach in any future pregnancies.
(Edit: sorry, just saw you addressed this point in a post above mine. Still it's one of the reasons I would be very hesitant to get an abortion.)

The last few paragraphs I totally agree with you. We definitely need to work on making contraception more available to people as well as rewriting the sex ed classes.
 
Heh, I'm doing it this year for similar reasons. I got food poisoning in January and the hospital visit caused me to hit my out of pocket limit on our HDHP for the year - so if I do it this year, I won't pay anything.

i got one for the same reason :) birth in Jan, vasectomy in December while it was still free.


That being said, if i had to do it over again, not sure i would. My boys never had problems before, and now about once a year i have to do through 2 weeks of uncomfortableness and pain. Good for another 50 weeks!

That and my wife, while she likes being able to lose weight easier then when she was on the pill, both her acne and her cycle are all messed up since she's been off of it and i'm sure part of the reason she doesn't go back on is because i went through the vasectomy
 
OP is talking about definite contraceptives which for women is irreversible afaik.

Thank youuuu. I feel like some people didn't really read my post.

I'm referring to people who know they really don't want to have kids. Why take the risk? And why is up to the woman always to go with a surgical procedure (tubes tied etc)

Also I put in my OP (if you haven't already had one). Although, I appreciate people who have had one dispelling some of these misconceptions.
 
Cause I'm 20 and not having sex lately because I have no fucking game. Also it hurts like shit, I'll just use a condom+pullout+the pill for the time being thnx.
 
I'm going for a vasectomy next week! Had my pre-op today and it's all starting to feel very real. Starting to get nervous but it'll be worth it.
 
I'm going for a vasectomy next week! Had my pre-op today and it's all starting to feel very real. Starting to get nervous but it'll be worth it.
It's completely fine.

Pain isn't that bad, had it done in the Moring, was watching the rugby (live, in the stadium) in the afternoon
 
It's completely fine.

Pain isn't that bad, had it done in the Moring, was watching the rugby (live, in the stadium) in the afternoon

Good stuff. I've got tickets to the kasabian gig at the Leicester ground the following day lol so hopefully the pain is manageable.
 
Good stuff. I've got tickets to the kasabian gig at the Leicester ground the following day lol so hopefully the pain is manageable.
Bear in mind if you ask a hundred guys you'll get a hundred stories. Some only need a day to recover. Some need a week. Some are in agony after, some feel almost nothing. It's very much a case of YMMV, so don't rely on any one person's version of events.
 
Had mine not long after my second child was born 4 years ago. Free on the good ole' NHS, in and out clack clack with the bricks, job done.

The actual procedure was uncomfortable and at one moment, very painful, but generally ok. Afterwards no real pain, no complications and back to my usual routine the next day.

The hardest part is having to wank into a pot for the sperm test a few weeks later with your wife banging on the bathroom door asking if you're done yet.
 
3. I'm pretty sure they can also store a man's sperm before the procedure.

5. How do you figure that most women are on a pill since teenage years?

6. That's not necessarily true of abortions not affecting the ability to get pregnant later on. Depending on when you get the abortion the doctors have to scrape your uterus walls to make sure nothing is left behind. This causes scar tissue making it harder for the placenta to attach in any future pregnancies.
(Edit: sorry, just saw you addressed this point in a post above mine. Still it's one of the reasons I would be very hesitant to get an abortion.)

The last few paragraphs I totally agree with you. We definitely need to work on making contraception more available to people as well as rewriting the sex ed classes.

3. I'm referring post procedure. A tubal ligation does not effect the functions of the reproductive organs. A woman can still become pregnant naturally (< 1% chance over 10 years), IVF with her own eggs, the use of adopted embryos, or try a tubal reversal. I'm stating there are more options than for men.

5. https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-use-united-states
The pill and other hormonal contraceptives are among the most common used contraceptive for child bearing aged women.

The pill is given out because teens like to have control of their periods and the PMS symptoms. Hormonal birth control also controls the symptoms of several uterine issues such as endometriosis, fibriods, long periods, ovarian cysts, pcos. It's a cheaper and safer alternative to surgeries because these conditions are likely to return rather than a long term fix. Most women will undergo surgery to help correct these problems when trying to conceive a child, and return to birth control afterwards.

6. Please find me a reputable source of research, completely unbiased, that shows the vast array of complications from abortions. Either surgical or medical, first trimester or second trimester.

From personal experience, I have had 3. One surgical in the first trimester. Two in the second trimester through L&D. I did a lot of research each of these times.

The risk of complication at the time of the procedure and complications for later pregnancies are so minimal, it does not affect the majority of women who chose to have an abortion.

I also have my tubes tied with no adverse complications from it. My period cramps are a bit different, but it's only been one month. But again, I'm only one example.
 
Eh, I actually have to get an operation on my testicles first, one of them keeps disappearing into my lower abdominal cavity. Which is bad.

I see a surgeon soon so yeah... after that heals up, I'm getting one.

Even though, my doctor says I probably shoot blanks but I'm not chancing that shit.
 
I'm 35, have 2 kids already and we both don't want anymore.

I honestly consider this but there are a couple of things stopping me. First is the idea of the pain and hearing 1 in 20 has continual pain just doesn't seem worth it to me to take that chance. Also, it costs money and we are perpetually broke.

32 with two kids and a vasectomy a year ago. I was sore for a couple days. Vegged on video games for 48 hours and was fine. I can't speak to the cost as I was covered, but it might be worth it depending on whether your wife is paying out of pocket for the pill. I would look into it.
 
Far less safe than a vasectomy. Shit, I got mine so my partner didn't have to worry about any issues from hormonal birth control. But in general men out the burden of birth control on women so your attitude isn't shocking.
This is exactly the reasoning behind our decision for me to get a vasectomy. A 20 minute procedure to have her never worry about taking birth control, or any of the potential side effects of them
 
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