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[Tarazet]

Biologically there is no such thing as race there is as much genetic variation between "races" as there is within them.

I think you meant that the other way. There is as much genetic variation within race as there is between different ones. Race is a lie. Black isn't a race, it's an identity.

 

[TAJ]

I don't think that it has something to do with the color of skin (people in Kenya, for example, are very skinny)

I didn't think I needed to qualify my post with "all other things being equal" but I guess I should have.
I'm just saying that if you look at two people with the same build, (like if you did a monochrome 3D scan of them, the models would be identical) one of them with very dark skin and one of them pale as a red-headed corpse, the dark-skinned body would look like it's in markedly better shape.

 

[santouras]

suprised this ad hasn't been posted

 

[CajoleJuice]

I think you meant that the other way. There is as much genetic variation within race as there is between different ones. Race is a lie. Black isn't a race, it's an identity.

This post didn't make sense at first because I thought you were castle.

You sneaky furry.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I was being serious. I think the way you asked the question was a little weird, but to deny the impact of slavery and slave conditions of black populations is sorta' stupid. But, when you listen to your (white, liberal) kindergarten teacher about how we're all the same underneath, you get a generation of kids who think equality is about denying, rather than embracing or celebrating, difference.

im not trying to deny anything but really, what differences are you talking about?

 

[goku1693]

How is that even ignorance? He's not ignoring anything

Yeah the people that keep calling him racist and ignorant need to lay off. He may not have asked his question in the best way, he can only go off what his expierence's with us have been. But anyway to answer your question, and to restate what others have said, black were in effect bred to be better slaves. The bigger stronger slaves, both men and women obviously, were made to breed together and hopefully create bigger, better slaves. It was a very common practice among western slave owners. So America, Jamaica, the Carribeans, and many other countries. So yes it happened, so its stupid to deny it. Now I will say this, for anyone to suggest that there is a commonality among us black folk, that we are all big and muscular is huge generalization.

 

[Tarazet]

This post didn't make sense at first because I thought you were castle.

You sneaky furry.

I am making amends for my avatar's sins!

 

[Spike Spiegel]

Googling "obesity" and "African Americans" will get you:

* African American women have the highest rates of being overweight or obese compared to other groups in the U.S. About four out of five African American women are overweight or obese.1
* In 2005, African Americans were 1.4 times as likely to be obese as Non- Hispanic Whites.
* From 2001-2004, African American women were 70% more likely to be obese than Non-Hispanic White women.
* In 2003-2004, African American children between ages 6 -17 were 1.3 times as likely to be overweight than Non-Hispanic Whites.

And:

An estimated 129.6 million Americans, or 64 percent, are overweight or obese. Obesity and overweight have been shown to increase the risk of developing serious and often disabling medical conditions. Adult African American women had age-adjusted obesity rates of 48.8 percent, compared to 30.7 percent for adult white women, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for the period 1999-2002. African American girls and boys also had higher rates of overweight than white children in the same age groups.

"Obesity is a risk factor for many diseases which disproportionately impact minority populations, including heart disease, some cancers, diabetes, and stroke," said Dr. Garth Graham, HHS deputy assistant secretary for minority health. "Because these problems affect multiple groups, we will also be announcing a second phase of the initiative in the near future, which will focus on reducing obesity among Hispanic populations."

From The Office of Minority Health



So yeah, I'm not seeing how "most black people are muscular". And from personal experience, living in LA (the real one, not the one in CA), the number of black obese people I see is at least equal to the number of obese whites.

 

[Formless]

Spoiler

grape-flavored

juicing

Chicken breast --> Protein?

Seriously though, wtf?

 

[harSon]

Let me guess, your best friend is Black?

 

[Tornado Condor]

Googling "obesity" and "African Americans" will get you:



And:



From The Office of Minority Health



So yeah, I'm not seeing how "most black people are muscular". And from personal experience, living in LA (the real one, not the one in CA), the number of black obese people I see is at least equal to the number of obese whites.

I live in Cali and i have to say that i rarely see any obese black people

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Let me guess, your best friend is Black?

He must be diesel as hell too.

 

[Mau ®]

Bring some factual actual data to the table. Because you ran into some buff black dudes doesn't mean black dudes are more buff than white people. They may or may not be if somebody brings some actual scientific data to the table to discuss ala muscle density, slow twitch versus fast twitch, etc. Then there is a real discussion. But without some backing support just saying it doesn't make it true. Nor does saying black people are better dancers etc. Their are differences between blacks and white genetically of course. But I guarantee you aren't running into a race of super buff black men that dwarf the white race

So we are doing a fucking essay here?

Its known that East Africans are genetically more capable of long distance running and west africans have better muscular structures (the actual structure name is called mesoformo in spanish, couldnt find direct translaton in english, hope you dont freak out on that).

So it could boil down to genetics (among a lot of other factors). No one here is attacking anyone, and its annoying how people freak out over a harmless race-oriented comment. Being overly politicallly-correct on an internet forum is ridiculous.

 

[goku1693]

Googling "obesity" and "African Americans" will get you:



And:



From The Office of Minority Health



So yeah, I'm not seeing how "most black people are muscular". And from personal experience, living in LA (the real one, not the one in CA), the number of black obese people I see is at least equal to the number of obese whites.

:lol :lol HAHA!! Damn right!!

 

[Dali]

That's a scary topic. The PC on GAF is so strong.

I don't think that it has something to do with the color of skin (people in Kenya, for example, are very skinny), maybe something related with certain groups from some areas.
But if look at Russia, I have the impression that white people there tend to be more muscular than white people from West Europe.

Well, it seems Nature doesn't care at all about PC.

Wait... so making factually questionable statements is being not PC?

 

[HolyStar]

Usually the only advantage blacks have as a whole is prevention of the sun destroying nutrient folate also increased protection from skin cancers due to UV.

But one must factor in the social disadvantages of being black.

 

[Tarazet]

So we are doing a fucking essay here?

Its known that East Africans are genetically more capable of long distance running and west africans have better muscular structures (the actual structure name is called mesoformo in spanish, couldnt find direct translaton in english, hope you dont freak out on that).

That would be mesomorph, as opposed to ectomorph (skinny) and endomorph (wide, large bones)

 

[Stoney Mason]

So we are doing a fucking essay here?

Its known that East Africans are genetically more capable of long distance running and west africans have better muscular structures (the actual structure name is called mesoformo in spanish, couldnt find direct translaton in english, hope you dont freak out on that).

So it could boil down to genetics. No one here is attacking anyone, and its annoying how people freak out over a harmless race-oriented comment. Being overly politicallly-correct on an internet forum is ridiculous.

It is annoying when somebody uses their anecdotal examples to make statements that are clearly wrong. Same if I said it about any other group. He is simply wrong. And if you want me to be nicer to him while saying he is wrong then fine. Salva. As politely as I can tell you, you are wrong. The black people that you are running into are not typical of the relative buffness of blacks and whites in this country. Your examples are anecdotal. Happy now?

Now if the discussion is moved along to if Aliens capture a sample of blacks and whites and transport them to planet Xebo to excercise to see who can acheive maximum muscularity and buffness then that is fine also. Still would like to see actual data in the discussion rather than random dick pulling but that's just me.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

I live in Cali and i have to say that i rarely see any obese black people

That would have something to do with it; California ranks in the mid-30s on nationwide adult obesity rates, while Louisiana ranks in the top five. The odds of seeing more fatties on a daily basis are stacked in my favor.

 

[Ace 8095]

Why do you lift weights 6 days a week? That's just excessive; especially for a novice.

 

[Tarazet]

That would have something to do with it; California ranks in the mid-30s on nationwide adult obesity rates, while Louisiana ranks in the top five. On average I see more fatties than you do.

There's also the image thing. If you have a nice pair of abs, then you're probably going to want to find somewhere to show them off, whether you're white, black, or whatever. Vanity is a pretty universal human trait, but especially so in California.

 

[Gildor]

I think black people tend to be more inclined to play sports. This is just from personal experience. I went to a majority white high school. The majority of black dudes either played basketball or football.

 

[Tornado Condor]

It is annoying when somebody uses their anecdotal examples to make statements that are clearly wrong. Same if I said it about any other group. He is simply wrong. And if you want me to be nicer to him while saying he is wrong then fine. Salva. As politely as I can tell you, you are wrong. The black people that you are running into are not typical of the relative buffness of blacks and whites in this country. Your examples are anecdotal. Happy now?

Now if the discussion is moved along to if Aliens capture a sample of blacks and whites and transport them to planet Xebo to excercise to see who can acheive maximum muscularity and buffness then that is fine also. Still would like to see actual data in the discussion rather than random dick pulling but that's just me.

Forgot to to put anecdotal evidence in the thread title. But yeah it's mostly anecdotal.

 

[Dali]

I think black people tend to be more inclined to play sports. This is just from personal experience. I went to a majority white high school. The majority of black dudes either played basketball or football.

*Slams head against monitor*

 

[harSon]

I think black people tend to be more inclined to play sports. This is just from personal experience. I went to a majority white high school. The majority of black dudes either played basketball or football.

Jesus Christ...

 

[Labombadog]

-_-

 

[Gildor]

WTF did I say wrong? I said that black people tend to favor sports and therefore may be a reason why they may be more muscular. Just like the asian people tend to favor studying and therefore may do well on a math test.

 

[Memphis Reigns]

the two are not mutually exclusive. black people may be naturally more cut and fit, but this does not mean if your black you will automatically inherit these traits. its all genetics, like many in this thread have said. Eastern Europeans are generally bigger boned, Asians generally have smaller builds, etc, etc. BUT this does not mean if you are Asian your gonna be small (yao ming anyone), or if your small it means your asian (lol). I watched a movie about this in college once. Nothing about this is racist people relax. I come from black heritage and have inherited many different traits from every facet of my ancestors. i have curly hair cuz my moms side is greek, im tall, which is probably from my dads side (the black side) and I can go on and on its SCIENCE and completely PC. my answer is all over the place but thats how it is.

 

[AZ Greg]

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Blackace]

PLEASE TURN OFF THE STUPID!