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Why is iTunes so absolutely shitty?

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Is it just me? I've used this software for like 10+ years and never have I been thankful for it. You would think that a company like Apple would have reiterated enough to the point for it to not be so crappy.

They need to split iTunes up into several different pieces of software and call it a day.

What are your thoughts?
 
Bloated POS. They keep adding more and more features. I wish they offered a slim or lite version.
 
If we're talking specifically as a music player, I think it's been generally bloated, but still great to use if you configure it to only use the list view and ignore all the bullshit. It's fantastic for tag management. I never use the store.

Talking about the Mac version only, of course.
 
Brewmont said:
I've never understood the hate it gets. I've literally had zero issues using or navigating around it.
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It's a heavy-ass software. A music player has no business being clunkier to use than fucking Premiere Pro.
 
my issues with it are around having a previous, downloaded music library, and then signing up for Apple Music. Such a pain.
 
It's shit on Windows, and it broke playlists for me in Apple Music to the point that I switched to spotify. So yeah, it's shit.
 
collige said:
If we're talking specifically as a music player, I think it's been generally bloated, but still great to use if you configure it to only use the list view and ignore all the bullshit. It's fantastic for tag management. I never use the store.

Talking about the Mac version only, of course.
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Honestly, I don't think there's much difference between the two. Once you hit like 100 gigs in your library shit gets slow.
 
see5harp said:
Honestly, I don't think there's much difference between the two. Once you hit like 100 gigs in your library shit gets slow.
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My library is at like 12k songs and I have no real issue with performance. That said, I use Alfred for searching and playing like 80% of the time.
 
Never used itunes in my life..

Well, that's not entirely true. When it first existed, I used it as a music library for my mp3s.. but I'm proud to say I've never bought anything from them.
 
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Time to update for the 800th time this month!
 
I still get confused trying to simply copy music to my iPad.


I have gotten into an argument about how it's not drag and drop, but folks insist it IS. I would like to just grab a ctrl-click selection of songs and drag to the device, but I think I have to make a playlist?

I don't want to make a playlist.
 
Brazil said:
It's a heavy-ass software. A music player has no business being clunkier to use than fucking Premiere Pro.
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Yeah man, I try to catch it with that "Force Quit" as soon as I plug my phone into a new Mac that I haven't disabled it on. Takes forever to load and then to quit.
 
My deep hatred for iTunes and the constant frustration it caused, eventually led me to disowning all Apple products - I'll never buy an Apple product again because of it.

Fucking piece of shit.
 
All these years and I still can't just upload a compilation album with out having it upload as twenty different single song albums. They even have a "part of a compilation" button that doesn't seem to do anything.

Fear of having to use iTunes is the main reason I have such a small library on my phone.
 
It's beyond disappointing how slow and bloated it's been for so long, especially on PC. A bad application from a company that can do better. Even 10 years ago when I was meticulously using it to organize my library on a Mac, looking back I wasted so much time fighting with it.

Pocket Casts for podcats, Spotify/Google Play for streaming and music, VLC for a quick and dirty local media player. Alls I need.
 
iTunes is arguably the worst software that hundreds of millions of people have installed.

Apple's record of making great desktop software is poor, and I say this as someone who owns a lot of Apple hardware.

Their greatest achievement in desktop software, OS X / MacOS, was largely borrowed from other systems, and especially over the last 3 or 4 years, MacOS has gotten worse with very few worthwhile new features.
 
it was good enough to change the music industry and it has served that function. not really worth it to them to increase resources devoted to it.
 
The worst part is they know it's terrible, as every 3 years they announce a whole new version with a radically improved UI and performance.

And it's always the same old version, with one of the side bars disabled by default.
 
ReAxion said:
it was good enough to change the music industry and it has served that function. not really worth it to them to increase resources devoted to it.
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the iPod changed the music industry in spite of iTunes, not because of it. And to use an iPod, you effectively had to have iTunes.
 
no clue. made the jump to spotify yesterday and it's SOOOOOO MUCH FASTER. like i've been using itunes for god knows how long with tiny stints of attempting to regularly use mediamonkey. wishing i'd switched sooner.
 
I'll never understand why people don't like it. It works flawlessly. It opens instantly and never so much as stutters. It's easy to navigate and everything is clear. It's bonkers that people can't figure out how to copy music and things like that - it's drag and drop. That's all you have to do, literally could not be easier.

iPhone Music App does suck though.
 
iTunes has always been garbage (on Windows at least). Only reason I still have it on my computer is that my raiders of the lost ark digital copy is tied to it.
 
Servbot24 said:
I'll never understand why people don't like it. It works flawlessly. It opens instantly and never so much as stutters. It's easy to navigate and everything is clear. It's bonkers that people can't figure out how to copy music and things like that - it's drag and drop. that's all you have to do, literally could not be easier.

iPhone Music App does suck though.
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I disagree. It's always ran terribly for me, and if there is anything that I want to do i's always been a hassle to figure it out.
 
collige said:
My library is at like 12k songs and I have no real issue with performance. That said, I use Alfred for searching and playing like 80% of the time.
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It was just an example. My library is at 400 gigs or something. It's slow and takes a lot of ram usage, but not so much that I'd want to go back to windows explorer and winamp. My library is big enough that I don't even bother using iTunes on my MacBook.
 
No idea. Not only is it bloated and slow it has weird problems like when I click a box on a list of songs or albums it selects the one below or above it, making some things impossible to click. How this is happening in a mainstream piece of software this far into the 21st century is beyond me.

Jumped to Spotify and never turned back.
 
see5harp said:
It was just an example. My library is at 400 gigs or something. It's slow and takes a lot of ram usage, but not so much that I'd want to go back to windows explorer and winamp. My library is big enough that I don't even bother using iTunes on my MacBook.
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foobar man, fast, light weight and so much customization
 
collige said:
If we're talking specifically as a music player, I think it's been generally bloated, but still great to use if you configure it to only use the list view and ignore all the bullshit. It's fantastic for tag management. I never use the store.

Talking about the Mac version only, of course.
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It's funny, I think iTunes has a lot of interface problems and silly bugs but one thing I do like about it is the album view. I looked at some alternatives and they all seemed lacking in that area. I don't use the store either, I buy all my music elsewhere. I suppose I use it for podcasts.

1,275 albums, 15k songs
 
If I didn't have my entire old CD collection ripped I'd probably just junk it and go with Spotify or something and I like having it all downloaded to my phone. My problem has been it not finding the right album artwork, seems it started doing this six months ago and going by basic google searches and online help it's a) not a rare problem and increasingly common and b) Apple is aware and not doing shit. Super annoying.

Note: Album art is fine in Itunes itself, it's wrong when it syncs to my phone.
 
StaticJam said:
iTunes in 2017 is still worse than the 2008 Zune Software. GG Apple.
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iTunes in 2017 is probably worse than Napster + WinAmp in 1999.

SeanC said:
If I didn't have my entire old CD collection ripped I'd probably just junk it and go with Spotify or something and I like having it all downloaded to my phone. My problem has been it not finding the right album artwork, seems it started doing this six months ago and going by basic google searches and online help it's a) not a rare problem and increasingly common and b) Apple is aware and not doing shit. Super annoying.

Note: Album art is fine in Itunes itself, it's wrong when it syncs to my phone.
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You could look into Google Music. Google Music lets you upload your entire collection to the cloud for free, and then also supports streaming and adding to library for anything else. It's nice in that it doesn't use the storage on your phone to play from Google Music. Though for me as someone really careful w/ my data usage, I don't stream from my phone very often. But it's great having my catalog on every computer. iTunes probably has somethign similar though I'm not sure how it works or if it's any good.
 
Winamp in 1999 didn't even display album art. It was basically only good for tripping on acid and watching visualizers.
 
It's fucking horrific.

Takes up a shit ton of RAM, but it's still super buggy, stuttery, and just a pain in the ass to use. For example, for the past couple weeks, cover art doesn't show in the pane where music is playing. I've had instances where the album will play the first song and then hang trying to "load" the following one. Apple Music is fucking horrendous when you do the iCloud sync because then you get a shit-ton of errors with albums you have imported into iTunes. Your iPhone will insist you download these locally-stored albums from the cloud, and then it'll make duplicate tracks for each of these albums and fuck up the cover art.

It's genuinely a pain in the ass to use, so I stick to foobar unless I need to stream something.
 
iTunes is a bloated PoS. The UI and the Apple music integration is so shitty. They really need to break it up into separate apps like the did on iOS.
 
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