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Why is Skip Bayless employed by ESPN?
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Stoney Mason
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Meier said:
I like Lebron but if you think I fall into that menality of haters or lovers that is prevalent in the NBA thread you couldn't be more wrong.
A more credible argument would be that I'm just mad about his recent dumb comments on MMA and while I am that's just another dumb thing he's said to add to the list.
But I've mentioned casually in threads for years that he is a moron.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7405470&postcount=19
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I Push Fat Kids said:
So you mean he knows more about what he does for a living as a profession than I do about something I follow in my spare time but he still manages to say incredibly dumb and wrong things. Wow. That is impressive.
Have to agree with a lot of people in this thread. Even though I can't stand the guy (going back to the Cowboys hey days when he was the Valley Ranch guy), he's actually better than most of ESPNs cast.
1) He gets reactions. 2) At least he actually watches sports (which I don't think a lot of their "experts" do.) 3) Unlike most of ESPN, he's not completely bland and forgettable. He may suck, but at least he has a persona.
1) He gets reactions. 2) At least he actually watches sports (which I don't think a lot of their "experts" do.) 3) Unlike most of ESPN, he's not completely bland and forgettable. He may suck, but at least he has a persona.
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Zeliard said:
While I agree they are entitled to their opinion. It is after all an opinion show. I just personally prefer an opinion that is informed that some outside knowledge or logic.
But it does clue me in why these sort of guys are popular and employed and the bar is so low if that is what the masses respond to.
People seem willing to tolerate anything if there is a perception that he is some how contrary to the whatever the prevailing opinion is. I guess its the O'Reilly syndrome
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Tamanon said:
I think sports is journalism though or at worse its opinion based on something. Entertainment in and of itself doesn't have to make sense. I would think sports journalism even at the low bar that it exists at would still need to retain some element of logic and sourcing but then I don't listen to sports radio which is more akin to what the current state of sports coverage is like I suppose. I fully admit I'm the one in the minority in this sort of state.
Skip's entire shtick involves arguing against whatever point the other person(s) is arguing, no matter such things as reason, analysis and common sense. The guy is literally a troll and makes no effort to hide it, and yet some people defend him as a good sportswriter. It's rather amazing. You can consider him entertaining if you want, but let's not try to pretend that he knows what he's talking about.
Stoney Mason said:
That's the way of the world. Disney is as big and greedy as any corporation. Of course they're gonna like a guy who pushes people's buttons and gets them to watch.
That doesn't change the fact he at least has conviction to his beliefs (however stupid they tend to be.) I get the impression most of ESPN are are just phoning in clique answers till night falls and they can go partying.
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Tamanon said:
Fair enough.
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Rorschach said:
People need to stop this argument that because you speak about someone that only makes them more popular. You're part of the problem! type arguments
Clearly the man already has an audience. This forum isn't lousy with Skip Bayless threads. I don't watch him. In today's world you don't have to watch or be a consumer of somebody to know the dumb shit they say. He is going to stay on the air whether I made this thread or not. People can talk about shitty things or good things and that doesn't mean they are determining whether that thing becomes very popular or not. I post about Jazz music too. I'm not causing Jazz music to suddenly explode in popularity.
There is an argument to be said then of just don't watch him and fixate on him. Which is true. I was just curious as to how people enjoy him and asking the question is this really considered good work he is doing.
Can't speak to Skip, never see / hear him, however, Woody Paige is such an embarrassment and a complete moron I can barely stand any ATH that he is on. The amount of sheer fucking stupidity that flies out of his mouth on ATH is mystifying to me when there are so many other more knowledgeable, funny, interesting sportswriters that could be on. I don't know how anyone could enjoy listening to a goddamn thing Woody Paige has to say.
I said watching his show and talking about him. He makes a stupid comment about the UFC being rigged and all of a sudden, he has mad exposure. He's there to be hated. That's his thing.Stoney Mason said:
Also, you shouldn't take his comments seriously. He probably doesn't believe most of the shit he spews. He's there to make the contrarian argument to everything. Be it logical or not.
...yeah...
You asked why he wasn't fired. He's not fired because he's good at garnering attention and getting people to talk.
[edit] Also, no one really thinks like he does. I bet you the "audience" you speak of are just people that love to hate him, watch First Take, hate who he's talking about, or love to watch idiots get trolled/worked up over nothing.
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Rorschach said:
And that's also a very true and fair comment. It probably is a gimmick and that's what he is paid to do and its best to recognize that and ignore him in that same light.
Zeliard said:
I haven't had cable TV for years, so the only ESPN I get is select podcasts, so fortunately I am not subjected to Skip. My only impressions of him are from when he used to guest-host for Jim Rome, and I thought he was garbage.
I used to enjoy Woody's goofiness on ATH and Cold Pizza, but it seems like his entire schtick now is built around him basically being a lazy old man who doesn't do his job anymore.
I agree, Skip just pretty much is a hater. He likes basically all the teams I dislike (vice versa), it's kind of ridiculous.
The only commentators on ESPN I really like are Kornheiser, Wilbon, and J.A. Adande. Basically, I like PTI...except when Dan LeBatard is a commentator. Man, he's awful.
The only commentators on ESPN I really like are Kornheiser, Wilbon, and J.A. Adande. Basically, I like PTI...except when Dan LeBatard is a commentator. Man, he's awful.
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Lyude77 said:
Try listening to his radio show or read any of his columns. The guy is a moron.
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EvilMario said:
Outside of PTI, I'll agree with you for the most part there.
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Lyude77 said:
Wilbon is a jackass.
Do you mean he has bad opinions, or he treats people poorly? I kinda think him being wrong half of the time is what makes the show good; it's a devil's advocate kinda deal sometimes, I'm sure. As far as treating his co-host badly, he only really does that with Dan Lebatard, and it's definitely deserved. :lol I just wish Kornheiser and Wilbon would finally be on at the same time again. :|vas_a_morir said:
While we're on the subject of bad ESPN shows/talking heads, Sportsnation looks like the sports equivalent of Fox and Friends or something. It's kinda ridiculous. Oh well, whatever is needed to entertain is alright for sports, I guess.
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Zeliard said:
Yep. Also can't believe people shitting on Rome.
Rome always gets shit on here, but at least Rome puts on an entertaining radio show.
I used to listen to Skip Bayless on the radio (Sporting News Radio I think) and he was such a loudmouth idiot even then. You can't imagine my shock that he's not only employed by ESPN now, but damn near famous. It's shocking. I would have lost my whole life savings on that bet, I'm still not sure who he had to blow to make that happen but happen it did.
Ironically I sorta like him now, at the least he's one of the only guys on ESPN that will have an opinion about something.
He's still no Jim Rome though. Jungle4lyfe
I used to listen to Skip Bayless on the radio (Sporting News Radio I think) and he was such a loudmouth idiot even then. You can't imagine my shock that he's not only employed by ESPN now, but damn near famous. It's shocking. I would have lost my whole life savings on that bet, I'm still not sure who he had to blow to make that happen but happen it did.
Ironically I sorta like him now, at the least he's one of the only guys on ESPN that will have an opinion about something.
He's still no Jim Rome though. Jungle4lyfe
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DJ_Tet said:
He's actually quite a bit different on Sportsnation. He's much calmer and not nearly as outlandish as he is on his own show.
Guy just comes off like a huge dickwad, only cares about NBA and NFL, and shits all over basically any other sport. Not to mention I hate his cadence when he talks. But that is the benefit of having many channels on my TVBuckethead said:
I can turn the channel when he comes on, and turn it back when he is over.rhfb said:Guy just comes off like a huge dickwad, only cares about NBA and NFL, and shits all over basically any other sport. Not to mention I hate his cadence when he talks. But that is the benefit of having many channels on my TV
Rome on the radio >>>>>>> Rome on TV. Burning with Rome kinda sucks (except when he gets good guests or has good correspondents,) if you don't listen to his radio show I can see why it's grating. There are a lot of in-jokes that the TV only audience aren't privy to.
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ESPN Radio is ten times worse. There isn't a single guy on it that is tolerable.
Colin Cowherd is a huge douche.
Colin Cowherd is a huge douche.
Skip is mostly harmless anymore. All his takes are boring and predictable. He's like the new Charles Barkley.
My two favorite radio guys are Andrew Siciliano (Fox Sports) and Eirk Kuselias. Erik is really good, but the "ESPN talking points" really drags down his personality sometimes (having to talk about Farve/TO/etc all the time).
My two favorite radio guys are Andrew Siciliano (Fox Sports) and Eirk Kuselias. Erik is really good, but the "ESPN talking points" really drags down his personality sometimes (having to talk about Farve/TO/etc all the time).
I agree, Kusilias is a bright star in the otherwise weak lineup of ESPN Radio. He deserves his own slot. Unfortunately Tirico decided he needed another job because we didn't get enough milquetoast. At least he's finally gone and it looks like it's Van Pelt's show now, but it should have been Kusilias' spot in the first place.
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