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Why is the Sims 3 such a shitty game?

Shahadan

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And I'm not even talking about content. Just on the technical side it's astonishingly bad and it's even worse when you take into account the number of years since its release.

I was at a friend's place two days ago and he has the eleven (yes, eleven) expansion packs, and boy do you have to be fucking motivated to even play the game :

- Loadings are long as shit
- the game will progressively slow down, lag, freeze AND crash over time. The more you play, the more annoying it gets. Something with the game not dumping useless things it kept in memory. This was apparenlty never fixed, modders had to do something.
- it takes forever to go anywhere, so you just want to stay on your lot. Needs and stuff don't help.
- lots of shitty bugs that were already there when I tired the game years ago.
- after 14 YEARS since Sims 1 pathfinding is still trash. I'm almost sure it's the same. Your sims sometimes still have to go around the whole house to speak to someone right in front of them, someone they were just talking to at the exact same spot a second ago.
Of course when your sim can't find its path it starts a long ass animation to tell you so and then just stands there, wasting sometimes almost an ingame hour.
- Towns are broken. On some lots its physically impossible to get to your workplace in time. I'm sure a ton of the premade houses are made just to annoy you because they're built and furnished just the way you don't want them to, since it worsens the pathfinding issues for the most basic actions.
-Sims still have to put on the floor anything they have in their hands to even speak to someone, and it takes way too long.
- A fucklot of other things.

How hard is it to patch this game? They have no problem releasing an expansion every six months but can't fix basic things that were there since day one (or worse,14 years ago)

I'm sure some annoying and nonsensical things will still be there in Sims 4. I wonder how many people will pay $69.99 and install Origin for it when it releases.
 
The Sims 2 is still the superior game (and yes, the technical problems in The Sims 3 should had been fixed a long time ago)
 
I love the Sims series and have most of the Sims 3 but that's because I grabbed most of the expansions on sale when they first popped on Steam.

That said, I agree with most of this list. Neighborhood building is also ridiculously annoying with the way terrain works.

I'm not going to grab Sims 4 unless I see major improvement in the core gameplay.
 
There is an easy explanation. It's EA that made the game, they don't care about the franchise as it only makes them money. Even when the base game came out 2009 people wanted EA to fix things up before the first expansion came out. They never did so and every expansion brings new problems and EA only fixes some minor bugs.

If the same thing does happen to The Sims 4, then I'm out and I'll rather rebut the whole The Sims 2 with all it's expansions
 
And I'm not even talking about content. Just on the technical side it's astonishingly bad and it's even worse when you take into account the number of years since its release.

I was at a friend's place two days ago and he has the eleven (yes, eleven) expansion packs, and boy do you have to be fucking motivated to even play the game :

- Loadings are long as shit
- the game will progressively slow down, lag, freeze AND crash over time. The more you play, the more annoying it gets. Something with the game not dumping useless things it kept in memory. This was apparenlty never fixed, modders had to do something.
- it takes forever to go anywhere, so you just want to stay on your lot. Needs and stuff don't help.
- lots of shitty bugs that were already there when I tired the game years ago.
- after 14 YEARS since Sims 1 pathfinding is still trash. I'm almost sure it's the same. Your sims sometimes still have to go around the whole house to speak to someone right in front of them, someone they were just talking to at the exact same spot a second ago.
Of course when your sim can't find its path it starts a long ass animation to tell you so and then just stands there, wasting sometimes almost an ingame hour.
- Towns are broken. On some lots its physically impossible to get to your workplace in time. I'm sure a ton of the premade houses are made just to annoy you because they're built and furnished just the way you don't want them to, since it worsens the pathfinding issues for the most basic actions.
-Sims still have to put on the floor anything they have in their hands to even speak to someone, and it takes way too long.
- A fucklot of other things.

That thing I highlighted is the cause of 3/4ths of the technical problems. The pathfinding is definitely a problem, but the loading is known to get proportionally worse with additional expansions.

That doesn't excuse the poor optimization, but the game in its basic state doesn't have nearly that many problems.
 
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I believe any Sims game with many expansion packs suffers the same fate. It sucks a lot, especially considering my mother's love for them.

Part of why I want to get an SSD is just for that game, actually...
 
That thing I highlighted is the cause of 3/4ths of the technical problems. The pathfinding is definitely a problem, but the loading is known to get proportionally worse with additional expansions.

That doesn't excuse the poor optimization, but the game in its basic state doesn't have nearly that many problems.

Yeah I know, it was the same with 1 and 2, the more expansion it gets, the worse it is. Tbh I kinda understand that, but some of the problems I listed were already in the base game and I remember trying again when the Late Night xpac came out and it was already slow as hell. It was only the third xpac iirc.
Of course with 11 it's even worse.
I mean, by now they know they're gonna release a ton of xpansion packs, it's weird they don't build the game around that.
 
Yeah, I was a huge fan of the first Sims game back in 2000. So when I got Sims 3 for my girlfriend in 2010, I expected a vastly improved experience..

But other than a decent face-lift, the game still plays almost exactly the same. Mind boggling how they've let those issues stand for so long.
 
Aside from the load times, which no matter how to select/deselect expansions it will NEVER make it run any smoother, I really like the game. I play it a few times a month when I have time to kill and I'm in the mood to ignore all the fucking annoyances.
 
I have the game and one expansion pack from buying it a while back for my wife.

I guess all those expansion packs ruin it. I actually loaded it up a couple weeks ago to show my 6 year old (who I though might like it now), and it loads quickly and ran smooth as butter for me.

It's still a bit complicated for her, but she enjoys telling me where to put things. I suppose I won't buying a ton of expansions for her if it screws it up.

Appreciate the unintentional "heads-up" you gave me here on the expansions.

Edit** I'm playing on an i7, 9GB Ram, GTX 660 Ti system....so I'm not sure how that compares to what the OP's friend was playing on.
 
The loading times are what bother me. The game looks incredibly dated at this point but it loads slower than many modern games.
 
I like the Sims 3, but it is definitely flawed. It is an utterly unique game, but that is part of the problem. I think the problems the Sims 3 has stem from the lack of competition that the Sims (as a genre) faces.

Unfortunately, I don't think anyone other than EA has the funds and inclination to make a game on the size and scale of the Sims, especially if it were similar in gameplay.
 
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