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Why is the Xbox One OS so bad?

I edited the title to make it less inflammatory.

EDIT: never mind, doesn't actually change the thread title, just the first post.

OP no hard feelings. I, for one, hate how everything has to be an app and messages can only be snapped to view.
 
Never had any of this problems. OP's console is defective or this is a troll post.

I would like to see more details on downloads, though. But we always have a progress bar, percentage, etc.
 
So now people are blaming OS slowness on Windows 8?

This thread certainly delivers

1 - Win 8 isn't slow. It having a counterintutive interface may merit some debate, but it isn't slow.

2 - If your Xbone OS chugs, try the google DNS trick.
 
For all the updates people have been bringing up the OS feels so unintuitive and sluggish compared to the PS4 and 360. The only thing I felt was responsive surprisingly was the TV functionality strangely. Also had issues with the controller randomly becoming unresponsive when messing with apps. Have to say this was my time spent with my cousins Xbone for a week.
 
I edited the title to make it less inflammatory.

EDIT: never mind, doesn't actually change the thread title, just the first post.

You should first search to see if others are experiencing the same issues as you as most people aren't. I would suggest returning the console for a new one if these issues are persistent as they shouldn't be occurring.

You might want to try hard rebooting, hold your finger/thumb on the power sensor for 10 or so seconds, wait a moment and turn it back on.

So now people are blaming OS slowness on Windows 8?

This thread certainly delivers

1 - Win 8 isn't slow. It having a counterintutive interface may merit some debate, but it isn't slow.

2 - If your Xbone OS chugs, try the google DNS trick.

1) It's hilarious because the only thing they share is the kernel and nothing else.

2) Great suggestion, there is also a program you can run to find the fastest DNS server you can use.

EDIT - Found the software, it's called Namebench.

https://code.google.com/p/namebench/
 
the only one i have experienced of those is sometimes the tiles dont show up if there is a problem with XBL. But that has been 1-2 times and i have owned the console for a long time now. (before day 1).

This is a pretty terrible thread all over.
 
I think it is bad as well and I don't get the seemingly positive sentiment towards it. It's just counter-intuitive in every way (judging from a Kinectless point of view) and it drives me mad that one of the most touted features it has over the competition, suspend/resume, is broken and useless to me.

I have never got suspend/resume to work for me. I only have one profile on the system, yet when I go to resume, it says profiles have changed and I lose progress. Since it's impossible that profiles have changed when I only have one, I don't really know the issue.
 
OP no hard feelings. I, for one, hate how everything has to be an app and messages can only be snapped to view.

Well the idea behind this is great as it means that apps can be updated independently of the OS. So if there is a bad bug with a certain app it doesn't have to wait for a OS update in order to fix it. The problem is the execution, if this is a problem they can fix going into the future that would be very nice.
 
I think it is bad as well and I don't get the seemingly positive sentiment towards it. It's just counter-intuitive in every way (judging from a Kinectless point of view) and it drives me mad that one of the most touted features it has over the competition, suspend/resume, is broken and useless to me.

Really? The suspend feature is probably my favourite thing about the One, and it works great for me (outside of the Master Chief Collection, which I blame on the game more than the OS).
 
I have never got suspend/resume to work for me. I only have one profile on the system, yet when I go to resume, it says profiles have changed and I lose progress. Since it's impossible that profiles have changed when I only have one, I don't really know the issue.

That is weird as hell. i have never heard of this issue. I have about 6 different profiles in my xbox one(Wife, kid, nephews, brother in law) and never had an issue with Suspend resume with the exception of Destiny but that is because it is a Faux MMO
 

It causes many issues, biggest being console not resuming and requiring me to unplug the power supply, or booting up to the splash screen and freezing. Seemed to happen a high percentage of the time, so I just turned it off.
 
So no one else has had this happen?

http://imgur.com/3kQC5VH

Just a bunch of black boxes.

Seems like a defective console bud.


That is weird as hell. i have never heard of this issue. I have about 6 different profiles in my xbox one(Wife, kid, nephews, brother in law) and never had an issue with Suspend resume with the exception of Destiny but that is because it is a Faux MMO

Same here. Suspend/Resume works just fine for me. It has been a delight to have it.
 
Agree 100% with OP. Dashboard froze on my last night and I just shook my head as I reached for the power cable.

Can't believe how bad it is.
 
Huh. Never seen the issues you're talking about.
The XB1 UI is still better than the PS4's though, easily. and Microsoft upgrades it frequently.
 
Well, seems like I probably have a defective console. Guess that invalidates my post. This thread is no longer needed.
 
That is weird as hell. i have never heard of this issue. I have about 6 different profiles in my xbox one(Wife, kid, nephews, brother in law) and never had an issue with Suspend resume with the exception of Destiny but that is because it is a Faux MMO

Have you tried D4? That's the only game I have and it's never once worked.
 
I have never got suspend/resume to work for me. I only have one profile on the system, yet when I go to resume, it says profiles have changed and I lose progress. Since it's impossible that profiles have changed when I only have one, I don't really know the issue.

I constantly have problems with the resume function where it'll tell me the profile has changed and not let me cancel out of the message forcing me to load another game just so I can get the game to close. Really irritating.

Not a big fan of the Xbox One OS either. There are a lot of neat ideas but I can't get over the sluggishness of it and how unintuitive it can be.
 
I get some failed sign ins, can't retrieve messages, spinning circles, and apps that won't launch because services aren't available. For example Forza Hub won't launch, and I'm staring at the message. I've never got it to launch. All my pcs and wireless devices are doing great. When I download stuff from the store it chugs right along but it seems that new network calls tend to time out.
 
We are constantly having issues with Netflix and various suspended games or apps locking the console on start up. It's frustrating as fuck.
 
Huh. Never seen the issues you're talking about.
The XB1 UI is still better than the PS4's though, easily. and Microsoft upgrades it frequently.

I disagree. I can easily manage space on my own on PS4 and the elements of the OS come up much more quickly than on XBO and I just find the overall organization more sensible.
 
It causes many issues, biggest being console not resuming and requiring me to unplug the power supply, or booting up to the splash screen and freezing. Seemed to happen a high percentage of the time, so I just turned it off.
That definitely doesn't sound normal. Should probably call support.

Once in a while, an app that I left full screen will update when it's sleeping, and tell me it had to close it when I wake it up. Also, online games like Destiny will boot you out to the title screen. Other than that, it's always worked great for me.
 
To counter balance the trash talking, I will say that I like that it takes photos when I get an Achievement and I'm able to use them as a background for the system.
 
All these new issues popping up in the thread seem to be network-related. Again, no harm trying out that Google DNS thingie I mentioned earlier.
 
I disagree. I can easily manage space on my own on PS4 and the elements of the OS come up much more quickly than on XBO and I just find the overall organization more sensible.

PS4 UI is a utter mess with what seems like pages for pages that aren't even needed. I'll give it to you that it's snappy, although server-reliant elements are understandably a little slow, the rest of it seems way over complicated.

The Xbox One is way too simple and the PS4 is way too complicated IMHO(my brother owns a PS4 and I was messing around with it yesterday, so yes my observations are recent). Honestly instead of ads and friends updates it would be nicer if under the tile you boot on you have custom pins like the Xbox One. Although I was mostly surprised by how utterly broken the web browser was.

I can pretty easily manage the space on my Xbox One too.
 
I really could never understand why people stood up for the OS.

It's honestly not intuitive, slow, disjointed and has lots of lag and freezing. I own the system, but I only turn it on now for exclusives, can't stand dealing with the dashboard.
 
PS4 UI is a utter mess with what seems like pages for pages that aren't even needed. I'll give it to you that it's snappy, although server-reliant elements are understandably a little slow, the rest of it seems way over complicated.

The Xbox One is way too simple and the PS4 is way too complicated IMHO(my brother owns a PS4 and I was messing around with it yesterday, so yes my observations are recent).

I can pretty easily manage the space on my Xbox One too.

I agreed with you prior to them adding the library feature, but now the game/ app list doesn't go on for an excessively long line.
 
Recently bought an Xbox One and I have no clue how people can say it's better than the PS4 OS. The entire thing is cluttered especially trying to reach the store or general game discovery, period. There's some nice ideas sprinkled within it like twitch streams currently playing for a game you've searched for, or pinning a game or app and having it be all the way on the left. My issues with the xbox one have been as follows:

1: Console turns on/off properly around 50-75% of the time
what do I mean by this? If I press the guide button on the xb1 controller or console, it should boot to the home screen 100%. Instead I either get a black screen or the xbox logo for 5 minutes. This seems to happen very often if there is something installing/downloading in the lower power mode. By the way, how come the console seems to pick and choose when it wants to initiate instant on mode? half the time I'm getting a cold boot.

2: Install times take FOREVER.
From disc or from the net, everything takes forever to download and install. The ps4 also stinks in download speed but installing things from disc or download seem plenty quick.

3: Snap is a pain the in the ass.
It took me about 5 minutes and restarting the Halo MCC collection about 10 times to get it and Pandora to run at the same time with the emphasis or controllable pane be MCC. Why doesn't the "select" button (the view button) allow you to switch quickly between the two apps? I tried holding down the guide button, to swap...nothing. I had to go back to the ui and select them in some sort of weird order.

4: Pressing b too much will take you to previous apps, screens, settings, ETC
Aka the old android problem. What does the back button do? sometimes it takes you back to the home screen of an app, sometimes it will drag you out of your current app, screen, setting or whatever into an entirely different app, screen, or setting pane. It's nonsense. Btw why are there so many places to find settings on the ui?

Call the ps4 ui spartan or if you have tons of games hard to scroll through, but jesus it's at least neatly organized in comparison.
 
I really could never understand why people stood up for the OS.

It's honestly not intuitive, slow, disjointed and has lots of lag and freezing. I own the system, but I only turn it on now for exclusives, can't stand dealing with the dashboard.

I agree, but I guess some people got used to it, or just have different standards for UI.
 
If no one else has had these issues, now I'm wondering if my box is defective. I've spent the past 30 minutes waiting for the progress percentage for Sunset Overdrive go from 20% to 21%. And I'm installing from the disc.

go offine and the game will install faster.
 
I agreed with you prior to them adding the library feature, but now the game/ app list doesn't go on for an excessively long line.

No I completely agree, there needs to be a solution to the huge long line of tiles; even more so with the 60 games I own(shudder). Maybe some filters/folders can help solve these issues?

To be fair not even Steam has a proper answer to this in their library picture mode which doesn't reflect your custom categories at all.
 
I unplugged the power and restarted. Sunset Overdrive jumped from 22% to 94%. Still got 14 black boxes in the queue. This thing is baffling.
 
I disagree. I can easily manage space on my own on PS4 and the elements of the OS come up much more quickly than on XBO and I just find the overall organization more sensible.

I do like the general snappiness and simplicity of the PS4 OS. However, the "endless horizontal scrolling" layout for organizing games is inefficient and a nightmare when you have a large games collection. I have no idea why that hasn't been corrected yet with a simple modification to allow folders and alphabetical, install date, etc...reorganization.

I dont really like either OS all that much, but I haven't had any of the problems the OP listed and slightly prefer the Xbox OS layout.
 
C'mon now, this is hogwash. Windows 8 is the lightest version of Windows and Windows 10 will only be lighter. Xbox One is running three operating systems at one time that actively interact with each other and Microsoft servers(those being the game OS, Hyper-V and the main OS).
Snap making things sluggish is not hogwash. Unless you're Aaron Paul.

As for the rest of your post, I believe you are supporting my point that it is sluggish due to multiple OSes running concurrently (namely, W8), as well as my hopes that W10 would result in something better..
So yeah, not sure what is hogwash, but whatever.
 
Hilariously, the Kinect voice commands are the fix for the most egregious weirdness of the XB1 OS. I don't have to navigate to whatever stupid place they put the setting I'm looking for with the controller - I just say 'XBox settings' and then it's a couple of clicks away. The problem is that the OS is still designed around having direct access to the top level stuff via voice commands when they're only selling non-Kinect SKUs now.
 
Have you tried D4? That's the only game I have and it's never once worked.

Did you let the game fully download before opening it or did you try to start it when it said READY TO START while it was still downloading? If you tried to start playing it before fully downloaded then uninstall and reinstall but don't start it till download is 100% completed.
 
Snap really isn't that slow. The thing that's slow is the loading times on the apps. Once the app is loaded it's pretty fast from my experience. If they can get apps to load faster then I think it's great.

3: Snap is a pain the in the ass.
It took me about 5 minutes and restarting the Halo MCC collection about 10 times to get it and Pandora to run at the same time with the emphasis or controllable pane be MCC. Why doesn't the "select" button (the view button) allow you to switch quickly between the two apps? I tried holding down the guide button, to swap...nothing. I had to go back to the ui and select them in some sort of weird order.

Use Snap Center. Double tap the guide button. Once the "cross" appears, pressing left switches focus to the game, pressing right switches focus to the snapped app.
 
1. Are you plugging it into a power strip/surge protector? If so, unplug that shit immediately and plug strait into the wall. Modern power strips have 'zombie killers' that cut power completely to devices that it thinks are draining your power unnecessarily like cell phone power plugs.

2. Yeah, it sucks.

3. 'Double tap the guide button' is what you're looking for.

4. I too, hate this. But, back is back is back.
 
3: Snap is a pain the in the ass.
It took me about 5 minutes and restarting the Halo MCC collection about 10 times to get it and Pandora to run at the same time with the emphasis or controllable pane be MCC. Why doesn't the "select" button (the view button) allow you to switch quickly between the two apps? I tried holding down the guide button, to swap...nothing. I had to go back to the ui and select them in some sort of weird order.

Tap the guide button and then immediately hold it down after to get the snap control UI.

Snap making things sluggish is not hogwash. Unless you're Aaron Paul.

As for the rest of your post, I believe you are supporting my point that it is sluggish due to multiple OSes running concurrently (namely, W8), as well as my hopes that W10 would result in something better..
So yeah, not sure what is hogwash, but whatever.

Windows 8 on PC isn't running multiple OS it is running a single OS which is namely Windows 8. The Xbox One's main OS is based on the same kernel as Windows 8 but is not Windows 8. Snap on Xbox One =/= Snap on Windows.

Hilariously, the Kinect voice commands are the fix for the most egregious weirdness of the XB1 OS. I don't have to navigate to whatever stupid place they put the setting I'm looking for with the controller - I just say 'XBox settings' and then it's a couple of clicks away. The problem is that the OS is still designed around having direct access to the top level stuff via voice commands when they're only selling non-Kinect SKUs now.

Press start on controller on the main dash and settings is right there.
 
Got both X1 and PS4. X1 OS is the best, theres really nothing you cant do. Mines works pretty good and im in the preview program.
 
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